Dortmund chief exec sticking the boot in AGAIN

[Maldeika]

the 50+ 1 rule would have been great if it had always been in place. but english clubs have never been owned by the fans. its always been mansour, glazers,ashley, henry or edwards, smales, hall, moore etc.

the current owners are never going to hand back ownership to the fans, they've spent too much to buy the clubs.

its a pointless, academic debate

To be honest I wouldn´t like City to be owned by the fans, not the fans on the matchday threads anyway ;-)

A less academic subject is the fact that Bayern got two sponsors as part owners, that is a can of worms if we think about it in regards to club ownerships.
What to stop ten sponsors from owning a slice each?
Would the usual 50+1 ownership vote down anything that their ten biggest sponsors suggest?

10 sponsors would be ten opinions, or? With each only having 4,9 per cent...

Audi and Adidas just act strategic in owning a part of Bayern. For Audi it rules out every other car partner out of the sponsoring pool for the future (Munich is BMW-city - Audi is in Ingolstadt) and Adidas is a partner since the 60s. Nobody of them wants to rule the club - it only connects them more with the club.

And why should they want to interfere. There is no club in the world that has had a better lead in the last 30 years.

 

[Cielo Azzurro]

Last year Bayern Munchen, this time BVB... What's with this obsession to talk about City in such manner?
You'll never see the interviews like this from City's owner, chairman, ceo, manager, coaching stuff and players. City, as a club, and people who work there never 'sticking the boot in' other teams, managers and their financial situation etc. I can't imagine our new CEO, Manicini or Khaldoon going out with such quotes.
BVB positioning themselves as a great successfull club in Europe? Yet they act like a jealousy bunch of mediocore team. It's a low class, very unprofessional and unethical. City are miles above them in terms of intelligence and dignity.

'The dogs bark, but the caravan goes on' as they say.

 

[Black_Yellow_1909]

First of all I wish you who are in Dortmund a good time and also a good game.

I have to say people who are comparing football with the World War II and compare us to being Nazis are really going on my nuts! Stay away from the game of football!

Second: I can understand why some comments are making you mad. BUT you have to accept the fact that some people outside of England (known as the home of football) are looking with some disbelief on the premier league. A sheikh is running the show at City, a US guy at United, a Russian guy is pumping money at Chelski and you have some other private investors. They are throwing money to players. They have taken away the game of football from the people and if we are with some thousands fans at your home grounds we are singing the shit out of us. You only sing when you are winning, if at all.

So, look at the facts and the fact is that you have perverted the idea of football. Thats all it is.

Cheers,
Tom

 

[Ruhr]

stereotypes never help at any discussion

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

stereotypes never help at any discussion

People who make tiresome WWII references in threads about Germans/Germany do so because they are incapable of creative thought, in the main

 

[Balti]

First of all I wish you who are in Dortmund a good time and also a good game.

I have to say people who are comparing football with the World War II and compare us to being Nazis are really going on my nuts! Stay away from the game of football!

Second: I can understand why some comments are making you mad. BUT you have to accept the fact that some people outside of England (known as the home of football) are looking with some disbelief on the premier league. A sheikh is running the show at City, a US guy at United, a Russian guy is pumping money at Chelski and you have some other private investors. They are throwing money to players. They have taken away the game of football from the people and if we are with some thousands fans at your home grounds we are singing the shit out of us. You only sing when you are winning, if at all.

So, look at the facts and the fact is that you have perverted the idea of football. Thats all it is.

Cheers,
Tom

and you are owned by a bunch of faceless investors on the stock exchange that bankrolled you to success from nothing so fuck off you hypocrite

 

[mekonmcfc]

Wow, they start doing good in the champions league for one time and suddenly they think they're above everyone else. Disgusting.

Dortmund are past winners !!! i think they have more say than us.

Plus it is a better fan experience in Germany they appreciate the fans more

 

[bayern blade]

A less academic subject is the fact that Bayern got two sponsors as part owners, that is a can of worms if we think about it in regards to club ownerships.
What to stop ten sponsors from owning a slice each?
Would the usual 50+1 ownership vote down anything that their ten biggest sponsors suggest?

Not really, they never interfere in the running of the club as far as I know.

 

[HUNT3K1LL3R]

Hey Citizens, it's my first post here. I am a Borussia supporter and I read in this forum for a few days.

and you are owned by a bunch of faceless investors on the stock exchange that bankrolled you to success from nothing so fuck off you hypocrite

It's h ard to explain but I'll try.

Yes, Dortmund is at the stock exchange and the club only owns about 10 percent of the company 'Borussia Dortmund GmbH & Co KGaA'.
(you can translate it 'Borussia Dortmund Partnership Limited by Shares')

But...

The club found a subsidiary company called 'Borussia Dortmund Geschäftsführung GmbH' ('Borussia Dortmund Management GmbH') which owns 100% of the KGaA.

So the club is owned by his members.
The management company is a subsidiary company of the club.
The KGaA is owned by the management company.

And the recent success is not a result of the investors. Actually it is because of hard work since 2005. Since them the company reduces its debts from former €190m to now €11m, buyed the stadium and formed a new, young team which won the Bundesliga 2 times in a row.

I advise you an article of The Swiss Rambler, who wrote a real good summiary:
<a class="postlink" href="http://swissramble.blogspot.de/2012/10/borussia-dortmund-back-in-game.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://swissramble.blogspot.de/2012/10/ ... -game.html</a>

 

[S04]

Second: I can understand why some comments are making you mad. BUT you have to accept the fact that some people outside of England (known as the home of football) are looking with some disbelief on the premier league. A sheikh is running the show at City, a US guy at United, a Russian guy is pumping money at Chelski and you have some other private investors. They are throwing money to players. They have taken away the game of football from the people and if we are with some thousands fans at your home grounds we are singing the shit out of us. You only sing when you are winning, if at all.

So, look at the facts and the fact is that you have perverted the idea of football. Thats all it is.

Cheers,
Tom

Ridiculous, football in the UK are as it always has been in regards to ownerships..It´s Germany that have changed their rules.
perverted the idea of football? Are we talking 22 guys kicking a ball here or what?