Douglas Luiz

What exactly does Luiz do, to be compared to Fernandinho or indeed Rodri ?

Genuine question. I watched his friendly for City & thought he looked promising, then some of his games pre Villa. Not studied him for Villa but did v Liverpool & thought he was slow & ineffective in every way. Clearly less mobile than Rodri & not even a suggestion of being able to do one thing Fernandinho does, in fact less mobile than Fern now & nowhere near as good.

Was that him having a stinker, or is that it ?
 
Paul1970 said:
If he doesn’t want to come back then I would imagine we don’t go for him . No point signing a player Who doesn’t want to be here .
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Indeed but I just wondered if you could force an issue, say we have a deal in place for 10m but could instantly sell him on for double that, is that then legal to trigger a buyback even if the player would prefer to stay at villa?

We loaned big Phil out to a club with a guaranteed buy price at the end of the loan, he scored goals they bought him and then sold him instantly to another team for 5m a profit of 4.4m or something like that.

Slightly different scenario but it was just a thought.
 
bluealf said:
Indeed but I just wondered if you could force an issue, say we have a deal in place for 10m but could instantly sell him on for double that, is that then legal to trigger a buyback even if the player would prefer to stay at villa?

We loaned big Phil out to a club with a guaranteed buy price at the end of the loan, he scored goals they bought him and then sold him instantly to another team for 5m a profit of 4.4m or something like that.

Slightly different scenario but it was just a thought.
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I don’t know what to make of him tbh. He played for Brazil the other night but that’s not as great as it used to be because Brazil are not what they were . Sometimes he looks really good but other time’s he is not great . On another point I’d have liked to see more of yan couto who I believe will be world class .
 
Neville Kneville said:
What exactly does Luiz do, to be compared to Fernandinho or indeed Rodri ?

Genuine question. I watched his friendly for City & thought he looked promising, then some of his games pre Villa. Not studied him for Villa but did v Liverpool & thought he was slow & ineffective in every way. Clearly less mobile than Rodri & not even a suggestion of being able to do one thing Fernandinho does, in fact less mobile than Fern now & nowhere near as good.

Was that him having a stinker, or is that it ?
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I've never seen him play as badly as you describe.

Youre right in that he is no Dinho,he'll never have his athleticism or his almost superhuman ability to do the job of two men on occasion......but he does posses decent mobility,an eye for a pass,good positional sense and the ability to break up play and subsequently start an attack.I think he displays the best attributes of both Rodri and Gundogan and would definitely be an upgrade in the CDM role.
 
FantasyIreland said:
I've never seen him play as badly as you describe.

Youre right in that he is no Dinho,he'll never have his athleticism or his almost superhuman ability to do the job of two men on occasion......but he does posses decent mobility,an eye for a pass,good positional sense and the ability to break up play and subsequently start an attack.I think he displays the best attributes of both Rodri and Gundogan and would definitely be an upgrade in the CDM role.
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If so, the Scottish guy next to him is some player.
 
Paul1970 said:
I don’t know what to make of him tbh. He played for Brazil the other night but that’s not as great as it used to be because Brazil are not what they were . Sometimes he looks really good but other time’s he is not great . On another point I’d have liked to see more of yan couto who I believe will be world class .
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Not played a game for Girona yet though, not sure how many games they have played in Spain, I hope it isn't another disappointing loan.
 
MCFCFanTX said:
I believe he's going to have suitors in the PL between those that come up and others that are in the lower-mid table.

I've read that the buyback is worth 25M this summer and then goes up to 30M. I think he has a place in the squad once Dinho is done after next season.

Therefore, I believe it might be good business to buy him back and loan him to a lower level PL team for further experience. Maybe a team like Leeds with Biesla would be an option.
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Why not just exceraise the buy back option and leave him at Villa for the rest of the season.

i haven’t seen much of him but if he’s good enough to start for Brazil he has to be good.

i think we sold him for £18m so getting him back now for another £7m looks like good business to me.
 
OntarioBlue said:
Why not just exceraise the buy back option and leave him at Villa for the rest of the season.

i haven’t seen much of him but if he’s good enough to start for Brazil he has to be good.

i think we sold him for £18m so getting him back now for another £7m looks like good business to me.
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As a starter for Brazil alongside Casemiro and Coutinho, he's plenty good enough to come back and improve our midfield.

To get in the Brazil team while playing for Villa is a huge achievement.

Will add the energy and bite we're lacking without Dinho.
 
bluealf said:
Douglas isn't on loan, Villa bought him but we have a buy-back agreement in place, of course, not sure what happens if the player says he doesn't want to come back?
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Are we really pretending any player in the world would turn down moving from Villa to City? Playing under Pep, Champions League football, competing for trophies, double or triple the salary?
 
domalino said:
Are we really pretending any player in the world would turn down moving from Villa to City? Playing under Pep, Champions League football, competing for trophies, double or triple the salary?
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Fitness/form allowing,not if he is guaranteed a starting place.However if he ends up sitting on the bench.......

He looks to have found a very good home at Villa,one of the first names on the teamsheet,but if he is deemed the right option for us,then hopefully he is up for the challenge.
 
Can somebody please tell me if we have any sort of clause still in Douglas luis contract? This lad is a quality player and would get in our midfield tomorrow. Hope we sign him back he’s someone we’re missing especially with Fernandinho possibly going at end of the season. Every time I watch him he’s at at least a 8 every week
 
StretfordBlueReece said:
Can somebody please tell me if we have any sort of clause still in Douglas luis contract? This lad is a quality player and would get in our midfield tomorrow. Hope we sign him back he’s someone we’re missing especially with Fernandinho possibly going at end of the season. Every time I watch him he’s at at least a 8 every week
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think we have a buy back clause still
 
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