Dzeko and Kolarov are both world class

Jonathan1979 said:
BoyBlue_1985 said:
samharris said:
Never played in a world cup so never faced the truly best of his time,so for me thats a no.

So by that reckoning Miroslav Klose is one of the best ever players

Was Gerd Muller world class in his time? ^_^
By that standard, I would say Klose is too.

Apart from Klose has never been terribly good at club level
 
Jonathan1979 said:
In the Man City team I think you have a couple players right now who can compete for being the best player at their spot at the moment:
Kompany, Silva, Aguero, Yaya.

Next you have a bunch of players who have the potential to become one off the best in their position: Hart, Richards, Nasri, maybe even Dzeko.

But kolarov? Naaah, not gonna happen.
you forgot Mario - could become the best of the lot!
 
johnny crossan said:
Jonathan1979 said:
In the Man City team I think you have a couple players right now who can compete for being the best player at their spot at the moment:
Kompany, Silva, Aguero, Yaya.

Next you have a bunch of players who have the potential to become one off the best in their position: Hart, Richards, Nasri, maybe even Dzeko.

But kolarov? Naaah, not gonna happen.
you forgot Mario - could become the best of the lot!

True. Or die in the stupidest DIY accident at home at age 26, there's no telling what's gonna happen with that lad.
 
johnny crossan said:
Jonathan1979 said:
In the Man City team I think you have a couple players right now who can compete for being the best player at their spot at the moment:
Kompany, Silva, Aguero, Yaya.

Next you have a bunch of players who have the potential to become one off the best in their position: Hart, Richards, Nasri, maybe even Dzeko.

But kolarov? Naaah, not gonna happen.
you forgot Mario - could become the best of the lot!

Mario is the best of the lot when available.
 
Jonathan1979 said:
johnny crossan said:
Jonathan1979 said:
In the Man City team I think you have a couple players right now who can compete for being the best player at their spot at the moment:
Kompany, Silva, Aguero, Yaya.

Next you have a bunch of players who have the potential to become one off the best in their position: Hart, Richards, Nasri, maybe even Dzeko.

But kolarov? Naaah, not gonna happen.
you forgot Mario - could become the best of the lot!

True. Or die in the stupidest DIY accident at home at age 26, there's no telling what's gonna happen with that lad.
There's also Carlos of course

It's good too that Milner, Barry, Johnson and Lescott are in the top thirty English players and Clichy, de Jong, Zabaleta, Pantilimon and Savic are regular picks for their countries.

We have a truly great squad.
 
Ducado said:
Didsbury Dave said:
Rooney's world class in my opinion.

Really? May be a couple of seasons ago but not any more in my opinion

As for Edin, not many strikers ever get the tag of "World Class" it's a hard position to play in because the judgement is always how many goals never any other aspect of their game, Torres in his prime was one of the few
I do believe Rooney is world class. I think he's a fantastic player. He's an absolute twunt, but that doesn't cloud my judgement on his abilities. People say he's not done it at International level, that may be true, but i think later rounds of CL football are as good as Int level and he's done it there (apart from the final in Rome where he was poor, but played well in three other finals). Messi hasn't really done owt at Int level yet, i actually think he's half the player than he is when Iniesta and Xavi are with him, but Messi is constantly touted as one of the greatest ever [already].

In recent years Eto'o, Torres, Drogba, Shearer, the real Ronaldo, Shevcenko have been the world class strikers of our time. I think if Rooney contnues to play as well as he has so far in his career, then he will also be on that list for me (and other players think he's that good too <a class="postlink" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/nov/01/wayne-rooney-ballon-dor-shortlist" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011 ... -shortlist</a>).


Other players being talked of in this thread: Giggs has never been world class, no chance! Scholes was. Scholes could have played for any team in the world including the Galacticos and Barca, he was that good.

When judging Rag players you really have to take your City fan head off and look at it objectively because the amount of times i've heard over the years and read on here, mostly this season, "United are shit" and "xxxx(player) is shit"; it just shows that people look at them as a rival and therefore in our rivalry-detest we just come out with these comments. When the reality is over the years they've not been shit and most of their players haven't been shit.

Of course it's all down to interpretation. "world class" doesn't actually exist. It's a made up thing and could be anything from the best two or three players in the world, to the best player in each position in the world, to the best 3 players in each position in the world. It's all down to the individual to what he thinks.
 
danburge82 said:
Ducado said:
Didsbury Dave said:
Rooney's world class in my opinion.

Really? May be a couple of seasons ago but not any more in my opinion

As for Edin, not many strikers ever get the tag of "World Class" it's a hard position to play in because the judgement is always how many goals never any other aspect of their game, Torres in his prime was one of the few
I do believe Rooney is world class. I think he's a fantastic player. He's an absolute twunt, but that doesn't cloud my judgement on his abilities. People say he's not done it at International level, that may be true, but i think later rounds of CL football are as good as Int level and he's done it there (apart from the final in Rome where he was poor, but played well in three other finals). Messi hasn't really done owt at Int level yet, i actually think he's half the player than he is when Iniesta and Xavi are with him, but Messi is constantly touted as one of the greatest ever [already].

In recent years Eto'o, Torres, Drogba, Shearer, the real Ronaldo, Shevcenko have been the world class strikers of our time. I think if Rooney contnues to play as well as he has so far in his career, then he will also be on that list for me (and other players think he's that good too <a class="postlink" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/nov/01/wayne-rooney-ballon-dor-shortlist" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011 ... -shortlist</a>).


Other players being talked of in this thread: Giggs has never been world class, no chance! Scholes was. Scholes could have played for any team in the world including the Galacticos and Barca, he was that good.

When judging Rag players you really have to take your City fan head off and look at it objectively because the amount of times i've heard over the years and read on here, mostly this season, "United are shit" and "xxxx(player) is shit"; it just shows that people look at them as a rival and therefore in our rivalry-detest we just come out with these comments. When the reality is over the years they've not been shit and most of their players haven't been shit.

Of course it's all down to interpretation. "world class" doesn't actually exist. It's a made up thing and could be anything from the best two or three players in the world, to the best player in each position in the world, to the best 3 players in each position in the world. It's all down to the individual to what he thinks.

Sorry but if Rooney was not English would he be touted as that great. Is Ba world class?.
 
didactic said:
danburge82 said:
Ducado said:
Really? May be a couple of seasons ago but not any more in my opinion

As for Edin, not many strikers ever get the tag of "World Class" it's a hard position to play in because the judgement is always how many goals never any other aspect of their game, Torres in his prime was one of the few
I do believe Rooney is world class. I think he's a fantastic player. He's an absolute twunt, but that doesn't cloud my judgement on his abilities. People say he's not done it at International level, that may be true, but i think later rounds of CL football are as good as Int level and he's done it there (apart from the final in Rome where he was poor, but played well in three other finals). Messi hasn't really done owt at Int level yet, i actually think he's half the player than he is when Iniesta and Xavi are with him, but Messi is constantly touted as one of the greatest ever [already].

In recent years Eto'o, Torres, Drogba, Shearer, the real Ronaldo, Shevcenko have been the world class strikers of our time. I think if Rooney contnues to play as well as he has so far in his career, then he will also be on that list for me (and other players think he's that good too <a class="postlink" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/nov/01/wayne-rooney-ballon-dor-shortlist" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011 ... -shortlist</a>).


Other players being talked of in this thread: Giggs has never been world class, no chance! Scholes was. Scholes could have played for any team in the world including the Galacticos and Barca, he was that good.

When judging Rag players you really have to take your City fan head off and look at it objectively because the amount of times i've heard over the years and read on here, mostly this season, "United are shit" and "xxxx(player) is shit"; it just shows that people look at them as a rival and therefore in our rivalry-detest we just come out with these comments. When the reality is over the years they've not been shit and most of their players haven't been shit.

Of course it's all down to interpretation. "world class" doesn't actually exist. It's a made up thing and could be anything from the best two or three players in the world, to the best player in each position in the world, to the best 3 players in each position in the world. It's all down to the individual to what he thinks.

Sorry but if Rooney was not English would he be touted as that great. Is Ba world class?.
If Kolarov is then yes.
 
Rooney isnt world class,like someone said earlier hasnt scored a competitive goal ( finals) for 8 years..that aint world class in my book..
He was on track,but somewhere fell off it.
 

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