Shooter 83 said:Bunch of muppets slagging Dzeko off again, climb back into your caves.
But surely the player has to adapt to the teams style to same extent?kalouk said:I think instead of looking at the great players we have and adjusting our play to get the best out of them, people would rather throw players on the scrap heap and look at the next shiny new player elsewhere. Every transfer window there is great enthusiasm and player A or B is fantastic etc but in less than a season people are ripping them to shreds and glorying in proving how awful they are even providing stats and in Dzeko's case discounting goals he scored for us because he scored 4 in one match. I believe it is well worth looking at Dzeko and what he needs to perform to his best and learning to tweak our play to suit his style because as is the case now with no Aguero available we are relying on him but not able to provide the tools for him to succeed. Maybe by trying this it would also allow us to shake things up when plan A isn't working. We can sit here saying, Oh if only we had Cavani, RVP etc but haven't we said it all before and surely it has to stop somewhere imo we have been so lucky with Aguero he has fitted straight in but I don't think this is the norm is it, if we did discard Dzeko and buy Cavani who's to say we won't be in the same position and then the cycle begins again. Why not work with what we have and look to what we can do to improve their chances of succeeding for us as I truly believe Dzeko wants to.
bondsman said:Totally and utterly useless AGAIN.
Ireland_for_pm said:bondsman said:Totally and utterly useless AGAIN.
pudge said:But surely the player has to adapt to the teams style to same extent?kalouk said:I think instead of looking at the great players we have and adjusting our play to get the best out of them, people would rather throw players on the scrap heap and look at the next shiny new player elsewhere. Every transfer window there is great enthusiasm and player A or B is fantastic etc but in less than a season people are ripping them to shreds and glorying in proving how awful they are even providing stats and in Dzeko's case discounting goals he scored for us because he scored 4 in one match. I believe it is well worth looking at Dzeko and what he needs to perform to his best and learning to tweak our play to suit his style because as is the case now with no Aguero available we are relying on him but not able to provide the tools for him to succeed. Maybe by trying this it would also allow us to shake things up when plan A isn't working. We can sit here saying, Oh if only we had Cavani, RVP etc but haven't we said it all before and surely it has to stop somewhere imo we have been so lucky with Aguero he has fitted straight in but I don't think this is the norm is it, if we did discard Dzeko and buy Cavani who's to say we won't be in the same position and then the cycle begins again. Why not work with what we have and look to what we can do to improve their chances of succeeding for us as I truly believe Dzeko wants to.
It would be stupid to ask him to play in Aguero's role as you say, but surely someone like Edin is a 'target man' for us and the way we play. When he do hit it long, he's there to win headers/flick ons, or hold the ball up and get on the end of crosses. Unfortunately he hasn't been able to do any of that stuff.kalouk said:pudge said:But surely the player has to adapt to the teams style to same extent?kalouk said:I think instead of looking at the great players we have and adjusting our play to get the best out of them, people would rather throw players on the scrap heap and look at the next shiny new player elsewhere. Every transfer window there is great enthusiasm and player A or B is fantastic etc but in less than a season people are ripping them to shreds and glorying in proving how awful they are even providing stats and in Dzeko's case discounting goals he scored for us because he scored 4 in one match. I believe it is well worth looking at Dzeko and what he needs to perform to his best and learning to tweak our play to suit his style because as is the case now with no Aguero available we are relying on him but not able to provide the tools for him to succeed. Maybe by trying this it would also allow us to shake things up when plan A isn't working. We can sit here saying, Oh if only we had Cavani, RVP etc but haven't we said it all before and surely it has to stop somewhere imo we have been so lucky with Aguero he has fitted straight in but I don't think this is the norm is it, if we did discard Dzeko and buy Cavani who's to say we won't be in the same position and then the cycle begins again. Why not work with what we have and look to what we can do to improve their chances of succeeding for us as I truly believe Dzeko wants to.
You are right of course, It just seems to me if you have a striker like Dzeko so different from Aguero in stature etc surely you are asking a lot to expect him to slot into Aguero's style when he is not available or rested. I don't believe it helps us as a team or Dzeko as a player confidence wise. I just wonder if we are missing a trick by not being able to provide him with the tools to play his way when our passing game isn't working against teams. I admit to looking at this from a somewhat naive angle and understand we cannot expect the team to revolve around him but he is not Aguero or Tevez, he is different can we not capitalise on this when plan A isn't working. Others are far more knowledgeable about playing styles but surely someone could look at it and find a solution because we all know he can do it from his time in Germany and playing for Bosnia. Rather than just dismiss him as rubbish and start again we could get the best out of him with a bit of tweaking.