dzeko presser from 1.30

salfordRed99 said:
M18CTID said:
Your second paragraph just smacks of someone who is defending the right of United fans to lie through their teeth. So it's okay for reds to spout any kind of buulshit about City but it isn't for blues to do it about United? That's poor form mate - especially as you seemed a decent sort before you came out with that.

haha, its hard for us to properly relate to 80/100 years ago. i think thats a fairer way to put it.
you're picking out numbers from decades ago and using them when you probably dont know the specific circumstances. where as we all have a proper understanding of whats happened over the last 30 years and the reasons why.

a good example is when city fans point to our trophyless years at the start of the 20th century. a lot of those years were war time and there was no football league. stuff like that

Not all those events were 80-100 years ago. Some were more recent - the ECWC Final in 1970 being one, Louis Edwards propping United up being another. But all that's missing the point - United fans around today spout the lies that I've mentioned and they will continue to do so. So regardless of whether the events happened 100, 80, 50, 20, or 10 years ago you've an army of fans who in the present day tell blatant lies about City.
 
salfordRed99 said:
anymore than 2sheiks said:
I can't be arsed responding to all your "ammo",but one thing did puzzle me regarding players pay.How much are you paying O'Shea? He's not even decent.

fuckin disgrace that really. to be fair i think hes been rewarded for his time at the club, alot of which has been spent on the bench. if it was up to me he'd get 30k, take it or leave it
That's still quite a lot though.I'd have to do overtime monday to friday and work saturday and sunday morning to get anywhere near 30k.
 
salfordRed99 said:
M18CTID said:
If we're talking Greater Manchester then United will piss it in fairness. If it's the city of Manchester only (and this is what I'm alluding to) then I reckon it's a lot closer - more than likely not 50-50 but no way is it 80-20 in favour of United either.

whats your logic? I cant understand why that would be the case.
If your going to say because old traffords not in manchester, then Im gonna say your childish and just knit picking. Im a mancunian from salford. that is a contradiction in the strictest sense but no1 can tell em I'm not a mancunian. i work, shop and drink in and around deansgate all the time. I'll more than likely live in the city centre at some point in the future. just because the city boundary (which only city fans speak of) is scewed to the east doesnt change the way we live. salford's its own city because the west is better.. only joking

Okay, let's include Salford, Trafford, Stretford, Sale, and Stockport then. I still doubt very much that you're talking an 80-20 split in favour of United. Salford is very much a red area and the areas around Stretford, Sale, and Trafford are but there is still a smattering of blues in all those places. Stockport - for all the piss-taking from United fans - is awash with both blues and reds. Either way, taking the areas above into context with everywhere else in Manchester it doesn't equate to United fans outnumbering City's by 4 to 1. If you wanted to take the rest of Greater Manchester into account then you might be getting there.
 
salfordRed99 said:
spanishblue said:
You rags realy do not have a sense of humour you have been taking the piss for 34yrs we have one little dig at your small minded bunch off followers and your all fukin crying foul it is so funny watching you fuckers squirm over one sentence what the fuck are you going to be like WHEN you are winning fuck all and City romp there way to trophy after trophy AND IT WILL HAPPEN.

And well done to whoever wrote the script for Edin it has had the desired effect(give us a laugh and send the sum into a fit)

Your lack of trophies doesn't give you the right to tell lies without being questionned. Iv just said I enjoy the exchanges. I said I find them funny (in a strange way).
Why are you jumping to the conclusion that utd fans want to smash up their tele's when dzeko was on SSN? Trust me, normal people dont take your lies seriously. I'll say it again MILDLY ANNOYING

If the future is a city success and Utd demise, then we'll then have to find our own ammo but we wont be stupid or desperate enough to make claims which are complete nonsense. My ammo will be -

arab money
hollow success (in future, possible)
nothing through your youth system(in future, probable).
You're banned from europe (in future, probable)
you're paying decent players world class money - ROONEY just wanted to make a point

All this is hypothectical of course... because city always fuck it up

Yeh he is a bastard this 'arab' bloke eh? You know like putting hundreds of millions in to developing east manchester, creating jobs, more money into the local economy........... You must be so proud of what your yank owners have done for you.

Hollow success - yeah cos you have never blown stupid amounts of money on players have you? And all your players play for the team and they love the club! You know like Granny Shagger, gotta say tho for £220,000 a week I would love my employer, even more if I only did my job once in 9 months.

And the youth system eh? Those kids have no chance now we have some money, you know like when the chairman said that the youth system is a cornerstone of the club or the upgrades to platt lane or the new training ground that is going to be built that will pull the youth system and first team together or Mancini giving youth team players a chance in games.
 
Optimus Prime said:
I was in a pub in New Moston a couple of weeks back with my Uncle, and the conversation invariably turned to football.

We were the only 2 blues in a group of about 15 or 20 - which would tend to back up the outweighing of Rags to City.

However, it very quickly became apparent that very few of these guys knew anything about their team, their current players, the current season (apart from the fact thast they were top of the League), and never went to the swamp.

Before long, it became completely pointless having this conversation as they didn't have a clue what they were talking about, and just kept on coming out with the usual 'How long has it been since you lot won anything?', 'We're top of the League' crap, with absolutely no substance behind it.

Now whilst this was clearly just one pub with about 15-20 individuals, I'm sure most blues can recall countless similar stories in their past.

I guess what I'm saying is much the same as many others have - there are probably more United fans than City fans in Manchester, but are there more supporters?

exactly, the numbers i gave before nearly represent that pub. your sayin about 10:1 in a pub, so the broader ratio would be something like 50:1 outside the pub (football fans generally like pubs)

so u had 2 clued up city fans and 20 united fans. i imagine about 8 out of 20 would be reasonably clued up utd fans.
city fans always seem more 'hardened' because ur constantly surrounded by utd fans. a lot of utd fans rarely exchange views with city fans.

those 20 so called reds could say wot they want without much questionning unless the 2 of u went through each 1 and put him right, but its harder for 2 city fans who are talking to 20 reds u need to be confident in what ur saying.

going deep here, iv got an head ache
 
itsnevereasy said:
size=200] ROONEY[/size] just wanted to make a point

All this is hypothectical of course... because city always fuck it up

itsnevereasy said:
Yeh he is a bastard this 'arab' bloke eh? You know like putting hundreds of millions in to developing east manchester, creating jobs, more money into the local economy........... You must be so proud of what your yank owners have done for you.

Hollow success - yeah cos you have never blown stupid amounts of money on players have you? And all your players play for the team and they love the club! You know like Granny Shagger, gotta say tho for £220,000 a week I would love my employer, even more if I only did my job once in 9 months.

And the youth system eh? Those kids have no chance now we have some money, you know like when the chairman said that the youth system is a cornerstone of the club or the upgrades to platt lane or the new training ground that is going to be built that will pull the youth system and first team together or Mancini giving youth team players a chance in games.

rooneys won us trophies and earned his pay rises. im not having hes on £220k a week.
i said probable that u wont use your youth system in future. its a fair assumption to make. your current home growns have left or are unhappy

we've broke plenty of transfer records.
who would you have more respect for -
a self made millionnaire businessman or an aristocrat/lottery winner
 
JoeMercer'sWay said:
salford red's numbers are silly.

and there were wartime cups that replaced the league and United won sweet fuck all of them, so the 37 years still count in their entirety.

i admit those numbers could be way off but its the best sense i can make of it.

i think your wrong to ridicule uniteds achievements during war time. a lot of players were no doubt focused on a more important victory whilst 'they were going over the top'.

i still cant believe that poster that surfaced around derby day. u should be ashamed
 

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