Dzeko VS Negredo

Joe Hart's Dandruff said:
Zlatan said:
Joe Hart's Dandruff said:
But he doesn't get 'LOTS' of goals. He fluffs sitters left right and centre. Lets not even start comparing him to a Raul or Van Nistelroy type player, as he couldn't hold a match to those. If he converted half the opportunites gifted to him, then i doubt we would be having this conversation. He certainly is not a clinical finisher like you make out.

Are conversation is over with you, Read some of my older post. The other clubs are probebly crazy for still wanting him. Oh and i forget few monthes ago also Mourinho wanted him again as it was in all media. Ask germany fans ( they all speak well english ) you can bayern fans if you are from manchester, what do they think about Dzeko and they would say Topstürmer , he was and still is huge star in germany.

If we could get £15 million for him I would bite their hand off. Just as I would have in the Summer.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/chelsea/10097890/Jose-Mourinho-hopes-Edin-Dzeko-will-follow-Andre-Schurrle-to-Chelsea.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footba ... elsea.html</a>

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.sportsvibe.co.uk/news/football/mourinho-makes-dzeko-his-no-1-transfer-target-25650/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.sportsvibe.co.uk/news/footba ... get-25650/</a>

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2151462/Manchester-City-striker-Edin-Dzeko-wanted-Bayern-Munich.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... unich.html</a>

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<a class="postlink" href="http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/manchester-city-transfers-edin-dzeko-2029654" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/ ... ko-2029654</a>

<a class="postlink" href="http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1493977/mancini-backs-dzeko-napoli?cc=5739" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/14939 ... li?cc=5739</a>

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kye1991 said:
Zlatan said:
vintiz said:
Seems like zlatan is just an edin dzeko fan and not a city fan !

YOU should better answer to my long post. I even give u the truce. Bayern game will tell really a lot. ( was Dzeko subbed because he needed a rest for other game, or he was subbed because other striker DESPITE DZEKO WAS A SCORER. If the answer is number 2 than it is really a football RARITY to bench a scorer who is trying to get in form - because scorer when they are hot they tend do score more easily. Not to mention than in that case he benched scorer and a better striker in that match ???? ). And in about 2 more derbies mr. Pellegrinis tactics/intention will be clear. I am more honest then many in here. I was always saying i like Dzeko i never tried to hide it. I was never saying yes WE have won, yes WE should by or do that ( not one single time, so i dont pretend to be genuine city fan ). First thing i said that i think there is one striker maybe to much and some of english posters agreed on that. But i would not want to repeat it because it is negative and the team should concentrate on winning and giving max. effort. I told i like Dzeko and City and i want them both to have a biggsucess. I think a lot in here accepted me that way. And you know quite well that we talked a lot beside Dzeko. About Nasri, Jovetic, Fernandinho, Aguero PRE match, POST Match, Bayern as a team, German league teams and a lot of that was not about the Dzeko. And i am NO FAN BOY. I dont have a room full of posters of certain player. I am not collecting things of one player. i am not interesting in what he does in his free time. If i am someone fan boy than it is just one player and his name is Zlatan the golden boy :) IBRACADABRA . I am his fan as a player and much bigger fan as a person for what he managed to achieve and in what circumstances. 95 % of modern day footballers are just incomparable to IBRA.

Iv read all this thread and all your posts and i am convinced you have one arm that is so much bigger than the other
LOL
 
Zlatan said:
Joe Hart's Dandruff said:
Zlatan said:
Are conversation is over with you, Read some of my older post. The other clubs are probebly crazy for still wanting him. Oh and i forget few monthes ago also Mourinho wanted him again as it was in all media. Ask germany fans ( they all speak well english ) you can bayern fans if you are from manchester, what do they think about Dzeko and they would say Topstürmer , he was and still is huge star in germany.

If we could get £15 million for him I would bite their hand off. Just as I would have in the Summer.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/chelsea/10097890/Jose-Mourinho-hopes-Edin-Dzeko-will-follow-Andre-Schurrle-to-Chelsea.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footba ... elsea.html</a>

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2151462/Manchester-City-striker-Edin-Dzeko-wanted-Bayern-Munich.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... unich.html</a>

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2164640/Edin-Dzeko-Bayern-Munich-doubt.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... doubt.html</a>

<a class="postlink" href="http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1493977/mancini-backs-dzeko-napoli?cc=5739" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/14939 ... li?cc=5739</a>

want more ??

I could blow a load of smoke up Cameron Jerome's ass just as easy, doesn't mean anything.
 
Zlatan said:
Joe Hart's Dandruff said:
Zlatan said:
Are conversation is over with you, Read some of my older post. The other clubs are probebly crazy for still wanting him. Oh and i forget few monthes ago also Mourinho wanted him again as it was in all media. Ask germany fans ( they all speak well english ) you can bayern fans if you are from manchester, what do they think about Dzeko and they would say Topstürmer , he was and still is huge star in germany.

If we could get £15 million for him I would bite their hand off. Just as I would have in the Summer.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/chelsea/10097890/Jose-Mourinho-hopes-Edin-Dzeko-will-follow-Andre-Schurrle-to-Chelsea.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footba ... elsea.html</a>

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2151462/Manchester-City-striker-Edin-Dzeko-wanted-Bayern-Munich.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... unich.html</a>

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2164640/Edin-Dzeko-Bayern-Munich-doubt.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... doubt.html</a>

<a class="postlink" href="http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1493977/mancini-backs-dzeko-napoli?cc=5739" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/14939 ... li?cc=5739</a>

want more ??

You've literally just thrown in the towel by posting links like that. I'm not sure if you realise how papers work over here but basically their main aim is to sell papers and most of these papers have fabricated 'articles' with little or no quotes.

Your not a City fan so you are bound to view Dzeko in a different light to us City fans. We don't bow down to him when he scores a goal from 25 yards. We want to see hunger and a will to hold onto the shirt, which is something he hasn't shown for three years.
 

I have add two more i could 20 more just for this transfer window.
Journalist write a lot of bull shit but it is imposible to write that much and the clubs will say in is not true. ( where is smoke there is usully a fire too ).
Just this year he was activly looked from:
Chelsea ( one of 1 priority ), Dortmund, Atletico madrid, Napoli ( 1 priority ), Tottenham those 5 are confirmed. Some are speculating about Arsenal but those 5 are 100 % correct, eche have 10 or 100 of different links.
 
Zlatan said:
Joe Hart's Dandruff said:
Zlatan said:
I now finally get, by reading this treads for back 2,3 years why some of " poor "Bosnians were losing theirs temper and there was ongoing same fight/conversations all over and over .... ( there is no way i could do that for 1/10 of that time, they are poor for have to fight here with some i better dont use words for years and no change.)
I must say i am surprised that majority of real english fans are neutral and not saying their opinion or not trying do change mine, but BUY FACTS not INSULT. The only insult some people have is that I have lot of posts about him. It was not my intention, i thought 10 - 20 would be enough.
HOW CAN YOU SAY I FUCKING HOPE NOT ( By saying that you imply that Negredo is MUCH BETTER it is ABSURD !!!! ).
If you ask 10 best football critics in the world or uk that. In the world none will agree in the Uk maybee ONE/10 will agree with you. ( Are you aware what are u saying ????). Again:
Dzeko is 27.000.000 EUR player , Negredo is 25.000,000 EUR player and one year older. Dzeko has shown that he can be clinical in England, Negredo has yet to do that. He had great chance against Villa , where he played 20 min. more than Dzeko as a lone striker. Dzeko almost single handedly lead a small team to bundesliga champions, it is the same as Stoke wins PL ( Negredo did not ).
Dzeko was wanted few monthes back by BVB, Napoli, Tottenham, Ateltico Madrid, ... ( better not to mention 1,2 years back ), Negredo was looked by NONE except city which all were saying in transfer forums, by spanish club and so on. You really think it is coincidence ????????
All this are pure neutral facts. As to my PERSONAL opinion goes it is that Dzeko is slightly better striker and he will show that if he gets the equal chance. ( I can explain it more than one way , but i guess no one is interested ).
We shell see will Negredo bring the improvement to City of last years. Will be very interesting to see. I know that fully fit and used Dzeko would/will.

I've been watching Dzeko since he got here mate, he is wank. His workrate is atrocious, he has the touch of a rapist and he finds it difficult to complete the most simplest of passes. He is at his best when he is not involved in the play and he is mooching around the penalty area, as at least then he may get lucky and score on of his 6 or 7 chances that he has been gifted.

Negredo on the other hand offers you work rate which often puts the opposing team on the back foot. He seems to be as good a passer of the ball as any midfielder we have. He creates incisions in the oppositions' defence with his deft flicks through and knock ons, something I have only seen Dzeko do once in his whole time at Man City. Negredo also gets into better attacking positions than Dzeko, as was highlighted by the change in tempo when he came on against Stoke.

You seem to be throwing facts like 'Dzeko is a 27mill euro player and Negredo is 25'. I couldn;t give a fuck how much they cost, its irrelevant. Do you remember how much Vinny cost us? Probably not. Also, I don't give a shite what Dzeko did in the Bundesliga. Ever since he has been at city he has been nothing but a disappointment, and a few goals here and there won't gloss that over. The team plays better when he is not in it. If we didn't have superior players ahead of him I wouldn't be perturbed about him starting, however that is not the case and Edin should be riding the pine.

Negredo has better touch, better workrate, stronger on the ball, better in short passes ( although Dzeko can have good long pass to, but is shit in quick short passes where Negredo is much better ). Negredo is not better in positioning and it cannot be highlighted by change in tempo ????
Dzeko is better finisher ( especealy long shots ) all around, better in positioning, and i think better in header ( that i am not 100 % , but we will see ).
You forget that Negredo doesnt have lot room for improvmant ( he cant play 50 % better than now and never will ). Dzeko is on his ( 70 % - he have a lot room of improvemant). But to achieve that he needs constant playing. With that his confidence grows and his touch and passes are getting better and better. He is confidence player.
If intention was to use him as a sub he should of be sold long time ago. But than i dont understand the statements few weeks ago as Dzeko as a MAIN STRIKER more than one time from the coach.
So you're claiming that Negredo is playing at his highest possible level and doesn't have room for improvement whereas Dzeko looks the worse player because he's only giving us 70% of his potential? Ignoring what you actually base these 'facts' on (I'm guessing you pulled them out of your backside) can we ask Mr Dzeko for 30% of his wages back from the last 33 months we've employed him?
Can we then just get rid of the lazy twonk and you can go with him?
 
Make NEGREDO a substitute for half year ( not 2 years ) and than see his hunger. But Dzeko is a fighter and he STILL has a hunger and maybe he will show it today. ( especially for fans like you )
 
Zlatan said:

I have add two more i could 20 more just for this transfer window.
Journalist write a lot of bull shit but it is imposible to write that much and the clubs will say in is not true. ( where is smoke there is usully a fire too ).
Just this year he was activly looked from:
Chelsea ( one of 1 priority ), Dortmund, Atletico madrid, Napoli ( 1 priority ), Tottenham those 5 are confirmed. Some are speculating about Arsenal but those 5 are 100 % correct, eche have 10 or 100 of different links.
And you'll find that all of those 10 or 100 different links actually run the exact same story word for word.

-- Wed Oct 02, 2013 12:53 pm --

Zlatan said:
Make NEGREDO a substitute for half year ( not 2 years ) and than see his hunger. But Dzeko is a fighter and he STILL has a hunger and maybe he will show it today. ( especially for fans like you )
Hopefully he'll be showing it from the bench.
 

He can not play more than 70 %. Every player have his flaws. Dzeko flaws are that he have ( when not confident ) bad first touch, slow pace and that he is to much dependable of other player mostly wingers to see the best in him. He can not achieve his 100 % because he was used in the past in wrong way ( this year so far so god ), and not playing on the constant basis. In that way his confidence grows and he BECOME better player and reach his full 100 % potential. Understandable mister ColinLee. You cant force something. It is the same as somebody cannot force you to become championship or premier league player if you dont have enough talent. Dzeko can reache his full potential if he has good conditions.
 
ColinLee said:
Zlatan said:

I have add two more i could 20 more just for this transfer window.
Journalist write a lot of bull shit but it is imposible to write that much and the clubs will say in is not true. ( where is smoke there is usully a fire too ).
Just this year he was activly looked from:
Chelsea ( one of 1 priority ), Dortmund, Atletico madrid, Napoli ( 1 priority ), Tottenham those 5 are confirmed. Some are speculating about Arsenal but those 5 are 100 % correct, eche have 10 or 100 of different links.
And you'll find that all of those 10 or 100 different links actually run the exact same story word for word.

-- Wed Oct 02, 2013 12:53 pm --

Zlatan said:
Make NEGREDO a substitute for half year ( not 2 years ) and than see his hunger. But Dzeko is a fighter and he STILL has a hunger and maybe he will show it today. ( especially for fans like you )
Hopefully he'll be showing it from the bench.

Zlatan we can only make judgement on what we have seen. You still haven't answered my question about why he has spent so much time on the bench? Or are you saying your judgement on him is better than Mancini and Pellegrini.
 

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