Dzeko VS Negredo

[Zlatan]

Does anyone thing that Dzeko doing the press conference is a sign that he will start tonight? I fucking hope not! Negredo and Aguero should be up front, with Nasri Toure and Navas behind them.

I now finally get, by reading this treads for back 2,3 years why some of " poor "Bosnians were losing theirs temper and there was ongoing same fight/conversations all over and over .... ( there is no way i could do that for 1/10 of that time, they are poor for have to fight here with some i better dont use words for years and no change.)
I must say i am surprised that majority of real english fans are neutral and not saying their opinion or not trying do change mine, but BUY FACTS not INSULT. The only insult some people have is that I have lot of posts about him. It was not my intention, i thought 10 - 20 would be enough.
HOW CAN YOU SAY I FUCKING HOPE NOT ( By saying that you imply that Negredo is MUCH BETTER it is ABSURD !!!! ).
If you ask 10 best football critics in the world or uk that. In the world none will agree in the Uk maybee ONE/10 will agree with you. ( Are you aware what are u saying ????). Again:
Dzeko is 27.000.000 EUR player , Negredo is 25.000,000 EUR player and one year older. Dzeko has shown that he can be clinical in England, Negredo has yet to do that. He had great chance against Villa , where he played 20 min. more than Dzeko as a lone striker. Dzeko almost single handedly lead a small team to bundesliga champions, it is the same as Stoke wins PL ( Negredo did not ).
Dzeko was wanted few monthes back by BVB, Napoli, Tottenham, Ateltico Madrid, ... ( better not to mention 1,2 years back ), Negredo was looked by NONE except city which all were saying in transfer forums, by spanish club and so on. You really think it is coincidence ????????
All this are pure neutral facts. As to my PERSONAL opinion goes it is that Dzeko is slightly better striker and he will show that if he gets the equal chance. ( I can explain it more than one way , but i guess no one is interested ).
We shell see will Negredo bring the improvement to City of last years. Will be very interesting to see. I know that fully fit and used Dzeko would/will.

I've been watching Dzeko since he got here mate, he is wank. His workrate is atrocious, he has the touch of a rapist and he finds it difficult to complete the most simplest of passes. He is at his best when he is not involved in the play and he is mooching around the penalty area, as at least then he may get lucky and score on of his 6 or 7 chances that he has been gifted.

Negredo on the other hand offers you work rate which often puts the opposing team on the back foot. He seems to be as good a passer of the ball as any midfielder we have. He creates incisions in the oppositions' defence with his deft flicks through and knock ons, something I have only seen Dzeko do once in his whole time at Man City. Negredo also gets into better attacking positions than Dzeko, as was highlighted by the change in tempo when he came on against Stoke.

You seem to be throwing facts like 'Dzeko is a 27mill euro player and Negredo is 25'. I couldn;t give a fuck how much they cost, its irrelevant. Do you remember how much Vinny cost us? Probably not. Also, I don't give a shite what Dzeko did in the Bundesliga. Ever since he has been at city he has been nothing but a disappointment, and a few goals here and there won't gloss that over. The team plays better when he is not in it. If we didn't have superior players ahead of him I wouldn't be perturbed about him starting, however that is not the case and Edin should be riding the pine.

Negredo has better touch, better workrate, stronger on the ball, better in short passes ( although Dzeko can have good long pass to, but is shit in quick short passes where Negredo is much better ). Negredo is not better in positioning and it cannot be highlighted by change in tempo ????
Dzeko is better finisher ( especealy long shots ) all around, better in positioning, and i think better in header ( that i am not 100 % , but we will see ).
You forget that Negredo doesnt have lot room for improvmant ( he cant play 50 % better than now and never will ). Dzeko is on his ( 70 % - he have a lot room of improvemant). But to achieve that he needs constant playing. With that his confidence grows and his touch and passes are getting better and better. He is confidence player.
If intention was to use him as a sub he should of be sold long time ago. But than i dont understand the statements few weeks ago as Dzeko as a MAIN STRIKER more than one time from the coach.

 

[Joe Hart's Dandruff]

I now finally get, by reading this treads for back 2,3 years why some of " poor "Bosnians were losing theirs temper and there was ongoing same fight/conversations all over and over .... ( there is no way i could do that for 1/10 of that time, they are poor for have to fight here with some i better dont use words for years and no change.)
I must say i am surprised that majority of real english fans are neutral and not saying their opinion or not trying do change mine, but BUY FACTS not INSULT. The only insult some people have is that I have lot of posts about him. It was not my intention, i thought 10 - 20 would be enough.
HOW CAN YOU SAY I FUCKING HOPE NOT ( By saying that you imply that Negredo is MUCH BETTER it is ABSURD !!!! ).
If you ask 10 best football critics in the world or uk that. In the world none will agree in the Uk maybee ONE/10 will agree with you. ( Are you aware what are u saying ????). Again:
Dzeko is 27.000.000 EUR player , Negredo is 25.000,000 EUR player and one year older. Dzeko has shown that he can be clinical in England, Negredo has yet to do that. He had great chance against Villa , where he played 20 min. more than Dzeko as a lone striker. Dzeko almost single handedly lead a small team to bundesliga champions, it is the same as Stoke wins PL ( Negredo did not ).
Dzeko was wanted few monthes back by BVB, Napoli, Tottenham, Ateltico Madrid, ... ( better not to mention 1,2 years back ), Negredo was looked by NONE except city which all were saying in transfer forums, by spanish club and so on. You really think it is coincidence ????????
All this are pure neutral facts. As to my PERSONAL opinion goes it is that Dzeko is slightly better striker and he will show that if he gets the equal chance. ( I can explain it more than one way , but i guess no one is interested ).
We shell see will Negredo bring the improvement to City of last years. Will be very interesting to see. I know that fully fit and used Dzeko would/will.

I've been watching Dzeko since he got here mate, he is wank. His workrate is atrocious, he has the touch of a rapist and he finds it difficult to complete the most simplest of passes. He is at his best when he is not involved in the play and he is mooching around the penalty area, as at least then he may get lucky and score on of his 6 or 7 chances that he has been gifted.

Negredo on the other hand offers you work rate which often puts the opposing team on the back foot. He seems to be as good a passer of the ball as any midfielder we have. He creates incisions in the oppositions' defence with his deft flicks through and knock ons, something I have only seen Dzeko do once in his whole time at Man City. Negredo also gets into better attacking positions than Dzeko, as was highlighted by the change in tempo when he came on against Stoke.

You seem to be throwing facts like 'Dzeko is a 27mill euro player and Negredo is 25'. I couldn;t give a fuck how much they cost, its irrelevant. Do you remember how much Vinny cost us? Probably not. Also, I don't give a shite what Dzeko did in the Bundesliga. Ever since he has been at city he has been nothing but a disappointment, and a few goals here and there won't gloss that over. The team plays better when he is not in it. If we didn't have superior players ahead of him I wouldn't be perturbed about him starting, however that is not the case and Edin should be riding the pine.

Negredo has better touch, better workrate, stronger on the ball, better in short passes ( although Dzeko can have good long pass to, but is shit in quick short passes where Negredo is much better ). Negredo is not better in positioning and it cannot be highlighted by change in tempo ????
Dzeko is better finisher ( especealy long shots ) all around, better in positioning, and i think better in header ( that i am not 100 % , but we will see ).
You forget that Negredo doesnt have lot room for improvmant ( he cant play 50 % better than now and never will ). Dzeko is on his ( 70 % - he have a lot room of improvemant). But to achieve that he needs constant playing. With that his confidence grows and his touch and passes are getting better and better. He is confidence player.
If intention was to use him as a sub he should of be sold long time ago. But than i dont understand the statements few weeks ago as Dzeko as a MAIN STRIKER more than one time from the coach.

I would argue that at this moment Negredo is better in pretty much every facet of the game. The man is on fire.I love the way Dzeko scores a goal from outside the box and suddenly you are heralding him as some sort of Tony Yeboah. Do you not rate Negredo in this area because he hasn't scored one yet in any of his five or so starts? lol, its also amusing how you assert that Dzeko is playing at 70%. If that's the case then he should fuck right off because it's not good enough. If he has this hidden 30% of talent then i'd love to see it, because maybe then he wouldn't get so much stick from city fans.

In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king. Over and out.

 

[Zlatan]

I now finally get, by reading this treads for back 2,3 years why some of " poor "Bosnians were losing theirs temper and there was ongoing same fight/conversations all over and over .... ( there is no way i could do that for 1/10 of that time, they are poor for have to fight here with some i better dont use words for years and no change.)
I must say i am surprised that majority of real english fans are neutral and not saying their opinion or not trying do change mine, but BUY FACTS not INSULT. The only insult some people have is that I have lot of posts about him. It was not my intention, i thought 10 - 20 would be enough.
HOW CAN YOU SAY I FUCKING HOPE NOT ( By saying that you imply that Negredo is MUCH BETTER it is ABSURD !!!! ).
If you ask 10 best football critics in the world or uk that. In the world none will agree in the Uk maybee ONE/10 will agree with you. ( Are you aware what are u saying ????). Again:
Dzeko is 27.000.000 EUR player , Negredo is 25.000,000 EUR player and one year older. Dzeko has shown that he can be clinical in England, Negredo has yet to do that. He had great chance against Villa , where he played 20 min. more than Dzeko as a lone striker. Dzeko almost single handedly lead a small team to bundesliga champions, it is the same as Stoke wins PL ( Negredo did not ).
Dzeko was wanted few monthes back by BVB, Napoli, Tottenham, Ateltico Madrid, ... ( better not to mention 1,2 years back ), Negredo was looked by NONE except city which all were saying in transfer forums, by spanish club and so on. You really think it is coincidence ????????
All this are pure neutral facts. As to my PERSONAL opinion goes it is that Dzeko is slightly better striker and he will show that if he gets the equal chance. ( I can explain it more than one way , but i guess no one is interested ).
We shell see will Negredo bring the improvement to City of last years. Will be very interesting to see. I know that fully fit and used Dzeko would/will.

I've been watching Dzeko since he got here mate, he is wank. His workrate is atrocious, he has the touch of a rapist and he finds it difficult to complete the most simplest of passes. He is at his best when he is not involved in the play and he is mooching around the penalty area, as at least then he may get lucky and score on of his 6 or 7 chances that he has been gifted.

Negredo on the other hand offers you work rate which often puts the opposing team on the back foot. He seems to be as good a passer of the ball as any midfielder we have. He creates incisions in the oppositions' defence with his deft flicks through and knock ons, something I have only seen Dzeko do once in his whole time at Man City. Negredo also gets into better attacking positions than Dzeko, as was highlighted by the change in tempo when he came on against Stoke.

You seem to be throwing facts like 'Dzeko is a 27mill euro player and Negredo is 25'. I couldn;t give a fuck how much they cost, its irrelevant. Do you remember how much Vinny cost us? Probably not. Also, I don't give a shite what Dzeko did in the Bundesliga. Ever since he has been at city he has been nothing but a disappointment, and a few goals here and there won't gloss that over. The team plays better when he is not in it. If we didn't have superior players ahead of him I wouldn't be perturbed about him starting, however that is not the case and Edin should be riding the pine.

Negredo has better touch, better workrate, stronger on the ball, better in short passes ( although Dzeko can have good long pass to, but is shit in quick short passes where Negredo is much better ). Negredo is not better in positioning and it cannot be highlighted by change in tempo ????
Dzeko is better finisher ( especealy long shots ) all around, better in positioning, and i think better in header ( that i am not 100 % , but we will see ).
You forget that Negredo doesnt have lot room for improvmant ( he cant play 50 % better than now and never will ). Dzeko is on his ( 70 % - he have a lot room of improvemant). But to achieve that he needs constant playing. With that his confidence grows and his touch and passes are getting better and better. He is confidence player.
I HOPE that you are aware that MANY GREAT strikers was/are the best at like u say just mooching around the penalty area. in teams like Bayern,Man.United, and a lottt more . That would be the only thing they want from him beside of course a LOT OF GOALS. And he would deliver. I HOPE that you know that Coach should use the bests of every player and mix. it. It is not so terribly wrong that a tall striker is bad at short passing around midfield if he is good/great in other things.
If intention was to use him as a sub he should of be sold long time ago. But than i dont understand the statements few weeks ago as Dzeko as a MAIN STRIKER more than one time from the coach.

 

[spacecadet]

Negredo, every time.

 

[Zlatan]

I HOPE that you are aware that MANY GREAT strikers was/are the best at like u say just mooching around the penalty area. in teams like Bayern,Man.United, and a lottt more . That would be the only thing they want from him beside of course a LOT OF GOALS. And he would deliver. I HOPE that you know that Coach should use the bests of every player and mix. it. It is not so terribly wrong that a tall striker is not very pacy and is bad at short passing around midfield if he is good/great in other things. But what he is not is Andy Carrol/Crouch type of player to who you will just pump long bals and will be used as battering ram in a games like Stoke, Sunderland and Liverpool away. He is much more, he is almost complite striker. ( his tehnique and ball handling is actually quiet good for a player of his size but is not good enough to be shown on constant level ). Dzeko can run in counterattack make one to moves likes winger and assist or score. Carrol / Crouch type of players hardly.

 

[Joe Hart's Dandruff]

I HOPE that you are aware that MANY GREAT strikers was/are the best at like u say just mooching around the penalty area. in teams like Bayern,Man.United, and a lottt more . That would be the only thing they want from him beside of course a LOT OF GOALS. And he would deliver. I HOPE that you know that Coach should use the bests of every player and mix. it. It is not so terribly wrong that a tall striker is not very pacy and is bad at short passing around midfield if he is good/great in other things.

But he doesn't get 'LOTS' of goals. He fluffs sitters left right and centre. Lets not even start comparing him to a Raul or Van Nistelroy type player, as he couldn't hold a match to those. If he converted half the opportunites gifted to him, then i doubt we would be having this conversation. He certainly is not a clinical finisher like you make out.

 

[chris85mcfc]

I've been watching Dzeko since he got here mate, he is wank. His workrate is atrocious, he has the touch of a rapist and he finds it difficult to complete the most simplest of passes. He is at his best when he is not involved in the play and he is mooching around the penalty area, as at least then he may get lucky and score on of his 6 or 7 chances that he has been gifted.

Negredo on the other hand offers you work rate which often puts the opposing team on the back foot. He seems to be as good a passer of the ball as any midfielder we have. He creates incisions in the oppositions' defence with his deft flicks through and knock ons, something I have only seen Dzeko do once in his whole time at Man City. Negredo also gets into better attacking positions than Dzeko, as was highlighted by the change in tempo when he came on against Stoke.

You seem to be throwing facts like 'Dzeko is a 27mill euro player and Negredo is 25'. I couldn;t give a fuck how much they cost, its irrelevant. Do you remember how much Vinny cost us? Probably not. Also, I don't give a shite what Dzeko did in the Bundesliga. Ever since he has been at city he has been nothing but a disappointment, and a few goals here and there won't gloss that over. The team plays better when he is not in it. If we didn't have superior players ahead of him I wouldn't be perturbed about him starting, however that is not the case and Edin should be riding the pine.

Negredo has better touch, better workrate, stronger on the ball, better in short passes ( although Dzeko can have good long pass to, but is shit in quick short passes where Negredo is much better ). Negredo is not better in positioning and it cannot be highlighted by change in tempo ????
Dzeko is better finisher ( especealy long shots ) all around, better in positioning, and i think better in header ( that i am not 100 % , but we will see ).
You forget that Negredo doesnt have lot room for improvmant ( he cant play 50 % better than now and never will ). Dzeko is on his ( 70 % - he have a lot room of improvemant). But to achieve that he needs constant playing. With that his confidence grows and his touch and passes are getting better and better. He is confidence player.
If intention was to use him as a sub he should of be sold long time ago. But than i dont understand the statements few weeks ago as Dzeko as a MAIN STRIKER more than one time from the coach.

I would argue that at this moment Negredo is better in pretty much every facet of the game. The man is on fire.I love the way Dzeko scores a goal from outside the box and suddenly you are heralding him as some sort of Tony Yeboah. Do you not rate Negredo in this area because he hasn't scored one yet in any of his five or so starts? lol, its also amusing how you assert that Dzeko is playing at 70%. If that's the case then he should fuck right off because it's not good enough. If he has this hidden 30% of talent then i'd love to see it, because maybe then he wouldn't get so much stick from city fans.

In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king. Over and out.

Somewhere in your post ( lost it now amongst all the CAPITALS) you alluded to the fact that Dzeko is a 'confidence player' and needs to be playing regularly. This is his main problem, he isn't going to get regular football at City because a) we have two other strikers that are arguably better suited than him b) our starting 11 gets rotated every week, where only 4 or 5 players are safe.

I don't really follow German football but if you're telling me that he single handedly won Wolfsburg the Bundesliga then he must be better than I thought. Which brings me to my closing point, we HAVEN'T SEEN THAT PLAYER SINCE HE CAME TO CITY.

 

[Zlatan]

But he doesn't get 'LOTS' of goals. He fluffs sitters left right and centre. Lets not even start comparing him to a Raul or Van Nistelroy type player, as he couldn't hold a match to those. If he converted half the opportunites gifted to him, then i doubt we would be having this conversation. He certainly is not a clinical finisher like you make out.

Mine conversation is over with you, Read some of my older post. The other clubs are probebly crazy for still wanting him. Oh and i forget few monthes ago also Mourinho wanted him again as it was in all media. Ask germany fans ( they all speak well english ) you can bayern fans if you are from manchester, what do they think about Dzeko and they would say Topstürmer , he was and still is huge star in germany.

-- Wed Oct 02, 2013 12:29 pm --


Dont throw Aguero in this. He is MILES better than Dzeko or Negredo.
I said ALMOST single handedly.

 

[Joe Hart's Dandruff]

But he doesn't get 'LOTS' of goals. He fluffs sitters left right and centre. Lets not even start comparing him to a Raul or Van Nistelroy type player, as he couldn't hold a match to those. If he converted half the opportunites gifted to him, then i doubt we would be having this conversation. He certainly is not a clinical finisher like you make out.

Are conversation is over with you, Read some of my older post. The other clubs are probebly crazy for still wanting him. Oh and i forget few monthes ago also Mourinho wanted him again as it was in all media. Ask germany fans ( they all speak well english ) you can bayern fans if you are from manchester, what do they think about Dzeko and they would say Topstürmer , he was and still is huge star in germany.

If we could get £15 million for him I would bite their hand off. Just as I would have in the Summer.

 

[chris85mcfc]

But he doesn't get 'LOTS' of goals. He fluffs sitters left right and centre. Lets not even start comparing him to a Raul or Van Nistelroy type player, as he couldn't hold a match to those. If he converted half the opportunites gifted to him, then i doubt we would be having this conversation. He certainly is not a clinical finisher like you make out.

Mine conversation is over with you, Read some of my older post. The other clubs are probebly crazy for still wanting him. Oh and i forget few monthes ago also Mourinho wanted him again as it was in all media. Ask germany fans ( they all speak well english ) you can bayern fans if you are from manchester, what do they think about Dzeko and they would say Topstürmer , he was and still is huge star in germany.

-- Wed Oct 02, 2013 12:29 pm --


Dont throw Aguero in this. He is MILES better than Dzeko or Negredo.
I said ALMOST single handedly.

So here is a question for you. Why hasn't he scored loads of goals for us?? Your answer....because he hasn't been given enough chances to build his confidence....and why haven't TWO City managers given him those chances.....CAUSE HE IS SHYYYYTTTTEEEEEEEEEEEE