Eden Hazard (continued)

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Red_fan said:
jonmcity said:
Red_fan said:
They are different players. Hazard is more of a central creative force, Nani is an out and out winger.

And I do think Nani is worth around £30m because there isn't many of his quality around. He's probably in the top 8-10 wingers in the world and is only 25. I don't see how people could argue with that notion.


But your fans on here want to sell him to pay for Hazard?

Who? I can assure you that very few Utd fans want to sell Nani to get Hazard. That's bollocks.

Hazard would be a huge improvement on Nani in any position imo, so it would be well worth it.
 
Neville Kneville said:
Red_fan said:
jonmcity said:
But your fans on here want to sell him to pay for Hazard?

Who? I can assure you that very few Utd fans want to sell Nani to get Hazard. That's bollocks.

Hazard would be a huge improvement on Nani in any position imo, so it would be well worth it.

From these type of players you're looking for end product, ie. goals and assists.

Hazard will do well to match Nani's current productivity per game in the Premier League in his first year or two.
 
zeven said:
BoyBlue_1985 said:
zeven said:
I think its arrogant to demand playing time at 21 years of age. What about "be part of a squad and rotation" Does he not understand?

He want to play 70 games or what? He need to get back to reality or he will fail

When your as good as him with all the top clubs chasing you i believe you can demand what you want
May very well be, but i still dont respect it, think if hes being shit, then it would be hard for any club to honer such an agreement.

Well yeah it would never be written in to a contract
Although it was written into Ronaldo's Inter Milan contract and he had to play all games for Brazil and then his knee blew up
Let that be a lesson to the younger generation
As a teenager i was robbed of the best player that ever would of been by that contract
 
Truth is that if he is assisting the City forward line he will have many more assists and goals.
 
jonmcity said:
Truth is that if he is assisting the City forward line he will have many more assists and goals.

Nani had a better goal/assist per minute ratio than Silva last season, what does that tell you? City didn't score many more goals than us last season at all. It was very close.

I think people are seriously overhyping Hazard big time. Yes he's a very good player, that could well go on to be a great one because of his age but as it stands he has not yet proven that he's better than the likes of Nani, Silva, Nasri or Mata.
 
Red_fan said:
jonmcity said:
Truth is that if he is assisting the City forward line he will have many more assists and goals.

Nani had a better goal/assist per minute ratio than Silva last season, what does that tell you? City didn't score many more goals than us last season at all. It was very close.

I think people are seriously overhyping Hazard big time. Yes he's a very good player, that could well go on to be a great one because of his age but as it stands he has not yet proven that he's better than the likes of Nani, Silva, Nasri or Mata.


After watching the derby he must have wondered if united had a forward line.
 
Red_fan said:
jonmcity said:
Truth is that if he is assisting the City forward line he will have many more assists and goals.

Nani had a better goal/assist per minute ratio than Silva last season, what does that tell you? City didn't score many more goals than us last season at all. It was very close.

I think people are seriously overhyping Hazard big time. Yes he's a very good player, that could well go on to be a great one because of his age but as it stands he has not yet proven that he's better than the likes of Nani, Silva, Nasri or Mata.

Well he's convinced me he's better than Nani. I wouldn't want Nani in our squad but I'll be gutted if Hazard signs for Utd instead of us.
 
jonmcity said:
Red_fan said:
jonmcity said:
Truth is that if he is assisting the City forward line he will have many more assists and goals.

Nani had a better goal/assist per minute ratio than Silva last season, what does that tell you? City didn't score many more goals than us last season at all. It was very close.

I think people are seriously overhyping Hazard big time. Yes he's a very good player, that could well go on to be a great one because of his age but as it stands he has not yet proven that he's better than the likes of Nani, Silva, Nasri or Mata.


After watching the derby he must have wondered if united had a forward line.

He must have thought the same when City were at Swansea, Stoke, Arsenal, Everton, West Brom and Sunderland.

Isolated or small sample sizes of games mean very little in the grand scheme of things when it comes to judging players.
 
Red_fan said:
jonmcity said:
Red_fan said:
Nani had a better goal/assist per minute ratio than Silva last season, what does that tell you? City didn't score many more goals than us last season at all. It was very close.

I think people are seriously overhyping Hazard big time. Yes he's a very good player, that could well go on to be a great one because of his age but as it stands he has not yet proven that he's better than the likes of Nani, Silva, Nasri or Mata.


After watching the derby he must have wondered if united had a forward line.

He must have thought the same when City were at Swansea, Stoke, Arsenal, Everton, West Brom and Sunderland.

Isolated or small sample sizes of games mean very little in the grand scheme of things when it comes to judging players.

The 8 goals Utd got v Arsenal reserves didn't have an effect then ?
 
Red_fan said:
jonmcity said:
Red_fan said:
Nani had a better goal/assist per minute ratio than Silva last season, what does that tell you? City didn't score many more goals than us last season at all. It was very close.

I think people are seriously overhyping Hazard big time. Yes he's a very good player, that could well go on to be a great one because of his age but as it stands he has not yet proven that he's better than the likes of Nani, Silva, Nasri or Mata.


After watching the derby he must have wondered if united had a forward line.

He must have thought the same when City were at Swansea, Stoke, Arsenal, Everton, West Brom and Sunderland.

Isolated or small sample sizes of games mean very little in the grand scheme of things when it comes to judging players.


Difference being he was actually at the Derby.
 
Red_fan said:
jonmcity said:
Red_fan said:
Nani had a better goal/assist per minute ratio than Silva last season, what does that tell you? City didn't score many more goals than us last season at all. It was very close.

I think people are seriously overhyping Hazard big time. Yes he's a very good player, that could well go on to be a great one because of his age but as it stands he has not yet proven that he's better than the likes of Nani, Silva, Nasri or Mata.


After watching the derby he must have wondered if united had a forward line.

He must have thought the same when City were at Swansea, Stoke, Arsenal, Everton, West Brom and Sunderland.

Isolated or small sample sizes of games mean very little in the grand scheme of things when it comes to judging players.

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Red_fan said:
jonmcity said:
Red_fan said:
Nani had a better goal/assist per minute ratio than Silva last season, what does that tell you? City didn't score many more goals than us last season at all. It was very close.

I think people are seriously overhyping Hazard big time. Yes he's a very good player, that could well go on to be a great one because of his age but as it stands he has not yet proven that he's better than the likes of Nani, Silva, Nasri or Mata.


After watching the derby he must have wondered if united had a forward line.

He must have thought the same when City were at Swansea, Stoke, Arsenal, Everton, West Brom and Sunderland.

Isolated or small sample sizes of games mean very little in the grand scheme of things when it comes to judging players.

Yes all those teams did give us some points towards us being the champions! but not as many as you.

24 September 2011 12:45 H Everton Barclays Premier League W 2 0
15 August 2011 20:00 H Swansea City Barclays Premier League W 4 0
18 December 2011 16:10 H Arsenal Barclays Premier League W 1 0
21 December 2011 19:45 H Stoke City Barclays Premier League W 3 0


23 October 2011 13:30 A Manchester United Barclays Premier League W 1 6
30 April 2012 20:00 H Manchester United Barclays Premier Leagu W 1 0
 
jonmcity said:
Red_fan said:
jonmcity said:
After watching the derby he must have wondered if united had a forward line.

He must have thought the same when City were at Swansea, Stoke, Arsenal, Everton, West Brom and Sunderland.

Isolated or small sample sizes of games mean very little in the grand scheme of things when it comes to judging players.

Yes all those teams did give us some points towards us being the champions! but not as many as you.

24 September 2011 12:45 H Everton Barclays Premier League W 2 0
15 August 2011 20:00 H Swansea City Barclays Premier League W 4 0
18 December 2011 16:10 H Arsenal Barclays Premier League W 1 0
21 December 2011 19:45 H Stoke City Barclays Premier League W 3 0


23 October 2011 13:30 A Manchester United Barclays Premier League W 1 6
30 April 2012 20:00 H Manchester United Barclays Premier Leagu W 1 0

I don't know if you have trouble reading, but I said at Swansea, Stoke, Arsenal, Everton, West Brom and Sunderland.
 
Red_fan said:
jonmcity said:
Red_fan said:
He must have thought the same when City were at Swansea, Stoke, Arsenal, Everton, West Brom and Sunderland.

Isolated or small sample sizes of games mean very little in the grand scheme of things when it comes to judging players.

Yes all those teams did give us some points towards us being the champions! but not as many as you.

24 September 2011 12:45 H Everton Barclays Premier League W 2 0
15 August 2011 20:00 H Swansea City Barclays Premier League W 4 0
18 December 2011 16:10 H Arsenal Barclays Premier League W 1 0
21 December 2011 19:45 H Stoke City Barclays Premier League W 3 0


23 October 2011 13:30 A Manchester United Barclays Premier League W 1 6
30 April 2012 20:00 H Manchester United Barclays Premier Leagu W 1 0

I don't know if you have trouble reading, but I said at Swansea, Stoke, Arsenal, Everton, West Brom and Sunderland
Now now you're being slightly bitter don't you think.
 
Paulmcfc2703 said:
Red_fan said:
jonmcity said:
Yes all those teams did give us some points towards us being the champions! but not as many as you.

24 September 2011 12:45 H Everton Barclays Premier League W 2 0
15 August 2011 20:00 H Swansea City Barclays Premier League W 4 0
18 December 2011 16:10 H Arsenal Barclays Premier League W 1 0
21 December 2011 19:45 H Stoke City Barclays Premier League W 3 0


23 October 2011 13:30 A Manchester United Barclays Premier League W 1 6
30 April 2012 20:00 H Manchester United Barclays Premier Leagu W 1 0

I don't know if you have trouble reading, but I said at Swansea, Stoke, Arsenal, Everton, West Brom and Sunderland
Now now you're being slightly bitter don't you think.

How so? I'm not the one who dragged the thread off topic. I just replied to an insinuation that the City attack is far better than United's, when it's clearly not. And then an example of one game was given to me when the United attack was anonymous and I replied by giving several examples of when the City attack was very poor, or anonymous as well.

That's all mate. I don't see how I'm being bitter.
 
Red_fan said:
Paulmcfc2703 said:
Red_fan said:
I don't know if you have trouble reading, but I said at Swansea, Stoke, Arsenal, Everton, West Brom and Sunderland
Now now you're being slightly bitter don't you think.

How so? I'm not the one who dragged the thread off topic. I just replied to an insinuation that the City attack is far better than United's, when it's clearly not. And then an example of one game was given to me when the United attack was anonymous and I replied by giving several examples of when the City attack was very poor, or anonymous as well.

That's all mate. I don't see how I'm being bitter.
The game that was given was because Hazard was there
 
Better hope he had better things to do on these days that watching you lot then.

23 Oct Barclays Premier League Manchester City H 13:30 1 - 6
30 Nov Carling Cup Crystal Palace H 19:45 1 - 2
07 Dec UEFA Champions League FC Basel A 19:45 1 - 2
31 Dec Barclays Premier League Blackburn Rovers H 12:45 2 - 3
4 Jan Barclays Premier League Newcastle United A 20:00 0 - 3
28 Jan FA Cup Liverpool A 12:45 1 - 2
23 Feb UEFA Europa League Ajax H 20:05 1 - 2
08 Mar UEFA Europa League Athletic Club H 20:05 2 - 3
15 Mar UEFA Europa League Athletic Club A 18:00 1 - 2
11 Apr Barclays Premier League Wigan Athletic A 19:45 0 - 1
30 Apr Barclays Premier League Manchester City A 20:00 0 - 1
 
Paulmcfc2703 said:
Red_fan said:
Paulmcfc2703 said:
Now now you're being slightly bitter don't you think.

How so? I'm not the one who dragged the thread off topic. I just replied to an insinuation that the City attack is far better than United's, when it's clearly not. And then an example of one game was given to me when the United attack was anonymous and I replied by giving several examples of when the City attack was very poor, or anonymous as well.

That's all mate. I don't see how I'm being bitter.
The game that was given was because Hazard was there

Fair enough, but still, Hazard would have to be very stupid to judge both teams on one game especially considering our lineup and the circumstances of us only needing a point. (and the fact that we were away from home)
 
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