Edin Dzeko (continued)

[Matty]

Is this in any way accurate ??
Negredos workrate was nowhere near in his last 5 games. As it was in first 5 games. Negredos workrate was similar to Dzekos in theirs last 5 games. Negredo is heavy striker and will NEVER run like Aguero. Aguero sprints as midfielder. With Negredo and Dzeko a lot of time games action needs to be stopped . So they can get in the box. All of you can wish what ever you want. Negredo will never be fast player with great workrate. He will never be able to give his workrate of first 5 games for the whole season. The thing he does is to close defenders 1 out of 5 times and crowd get crazy. They dont see that Ageuro close the defender 4 out of 5 times. Also in last 5 games Negredo had lost many many balls. And was not stronger on the ball than Dzeko in that last 5 games. There is only one thing in which he is constant better than Dzeko and dont that much ( Dzeko had 87 % pass accuracy last game. Game before that 83 % ). And that is short passing ( tiki-taka ). Negredo without Silva or Navas especially in away game is 50% worse player. Put him in Tottenham team. He would not be much better than Soldado was/is. Give Soldado Silva and Navas he would not be so bad that he is this year. Strongest/most creative midfield in the league, teammates from his NT SIlva, Navas, and maximal managers support are the Kee of Negredo looking so good in HOME PL/CL games. You can add to that 450 extra PL minutes ( against Dzeko ). But in PL/CL Away games when it is tougher to score. Even that dont help him much. On other hand Aguero can score anywhere against anybody.

I would ask you again. What would be comments here if Dzeko did this as Torres did in last game. Chelsea fans are not abusing player who is beeing shit for 2 years. Chelsea or Arsenal fans would be in heaven if Pellegrini would somehow allow Dzeko to go there. He will be first striker with tons of goals. If Dzeko had done that. This thread would have 30 pages in 1 hour, with tons of personal abuse of Dzeko. Most of which would be allowed.
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Aside from agreeing that Negredo's form has slipped slightly over the past few games I simply can't agree on pretty much everything else you've written, to the point where it isn't even worth me picking each point out and demonstrating why you're wrong. Lets just go with "it's all wrong" and leave it there.

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Called opinion and he dosent follow the negredo clult

Everyone is eltitled to their own opinion. That doesn't mean that everyone's opinion is correct, or that it should be respected.

When someone uses phrases like "Negredo will never be fast player with great workrate" when Negredo is both fast AND has great workrate, or when they say things like "Put him in Tottenham team. He would not be much better than Soldado was/is" when Spurs were clearly crying out for a Negredo style player when AVB was playing Soldado up top on his own (and asking him to do all the things that come naturally to Negredo) then I have to conclude that everything thay say about this matter is wrong, and that they don't really understand what they're talking about.

 

[AntiUnited]

Aside from agreeing that Negredo's form has slipped slightly over the past few games I simply can't agree on pretty much everything else you've written, to the point where it isn't even worth me picking each point out and demonstrating why you're wrong. Lets just go with "it's all wrong" and leave it there.

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Called opinion and he dosent follow the negredo clult

Everyone is eltitled to their own opinion. That doesn't mean that everyone's opinion is correct, or that it should be respected.

When someone uses phrases like "Negredo will never be fast player with great workrate" when Negredo is both fast AND has great workrate, or when they say things like "Put him in Tottenham team. He would not be much better than Soldado was/is" when Spurs were clearly crying out for a Negredo style player when AVB was playing Soldado up top on his own (and asking him to do all the things that come naturally to Negredo) then I have to conclude that everything thay say about this matter is wrong, and that they don't really understand what they're talking about.

na i agree thats why i stopped posting in this thread but some post where just lolz XD

 

[Matty]

Aside from agreeing that Negredo's form has slipped slightly over the past few games I simply can't agree on pretty much everything else you've written, to the point where it isn't even worth me picking each point out and demonstrating why you're wrong. Lets just go with "it's all wrong" and leave it there.

OK. And how do you explain that Negredo needs 550min+ to score AWAY PL goal. ( it is more than full 6 games ). And the fact that he did not score any goal in two CL AWAY games. Is it so hard to think that it is not just coincidence. And there are reasons for it. It is 650min PL+CL AWAY GAMES/per goal.. It is more than 7 full games and just one goal. And i did not include any extra time in those games. Just 90 min each. He had scored just 1 goal against tougher teams in away games.
When would you start asking yourself. Would 1000 min/per goal be enough, 1500min/per goal ?? That he is not the player some here thinks he is. He is solid player with great teammates who get best out of him and with ( for him ) great manager who wanted him and is making things easier for him in all possible ways. Minutes played, team selection, .....

A couple of points, I may have made them before (I HAVE made them before but, as they don't fit with your view/arguments they've been consistently ignored).

1 - GOALS ARE NOT THE ONLY METHOD OF WEIGHING UP A PLAYER'S WORTH TO A SIDE, EVEN A STRIKERS!

2 - Teams play home AND away, Negredo has 12 goals in 14 home matches!

3 - Negredo only actually started 1 of the 3 away games in the Champion's League, the game in Moscow where he played a vital role in our winning goal so saying he didn't score in any of those games is true, but misleading and ignores his role in the games when actually on the pitch. Dzeko only scored 1 goals in those games, yet started 2 of the matches......

4 - Dzeko has started more away games this season than Negredo has (10 compared with 9), but of course, he's not been given any chances to show us what he can do. It's also worth noting that Dzeko has only scored 2 away premier league goals this season, compared to Negredo's 1, so hardly a ringing endorsement for him to replace him. They both scored against Cardiff (Dzeko started the game, Negredo was sub) and Dzeko scored against Aston Villa (both Dzeko and Negredo started the game). In fact neither player has scored an away Premier League goal since the 28th September, over 3 months!

 

[aguero93:20]

Aside from agreeing that Negredo's form has slipped slightly over the past few games I simply can't agree on pretty much everything else you've written, to the point where it isn't even worth me picking each point out and demonstrating why you're wrong. Lets just go with "it's all wrong" and leave it there.

OK. And how do you explain that Negredo needs 550min+ to score AWAY PL goal. ( it is more than full 6 games ). And the fact that he did not score any goal in two CL AWAY games. Is it so hard to think that it is not just coincidence. And there are reasons for it. It is 650min PL+CL AWAY GAMES/per goal.. It is more than 7 full games and just one goal. And i did not include any extra time in those games. Just 90 min each. He had scored just 1 goal against tougher teams in away games.
When would you start asking yourself. Would 1000 min/per goal be enough, 1500min/per goal ?? That he is not the player some here thinks he is. He is solid player with great teammates who get best out of him and with ( for him ) great manager who wanted him and is making things easier for him in all possible ways. Minutes played, team selection, .....

A couple of points, I may have made them before (I HAVE made them before but, as they don't fit with your view/arguments they've been consistently ignored).

1 - GOALS ARE NOT THE ONLY METHOD OF WEIGHING UP A PLAYER'S WORTH TO A SIDE, EVEN A STRIKERS!

2 - Teams play home AND away, Negredo has 12 goals in 14 home matches!

3 - Negredo only actually started 1 of the 3 away games in the Champion's League, the game in Moscow where he played a vital role in our winning goal so saying he didn't score in any of those games is true, but misleading and ignores his role in the games when actually on the pitch. Dzeko only scored 1 goals in those games, yet started 2 of the matches......

4 - Dzeko has started more away games this season than Negredo has (10 compared with 9), but of course, he's not been given any chances to show us what he can do. It's also worth noting that Dzeko has only scored 2 away premier league goals this season, compared to Negredo's 1, so hardly a ringing endorsement for him to replace him. They both scored against Cardiff (Dzeko started the game, Negredo was sub) and Dzeko scored against Aston Villa (both Dzeko and Negredo started the game). In fact neither player has scored an away Premier League goal since the 28th September, over 3 months!

ah but matty, this is the fault of pellegrini for not playing dzeko enough/playing him too much and playing him up front on his own/playing him with a strike partner. or is it mancini's fault? I cant remember at this stage. anyway, we should sign Robbie keane to replace him ;)

 

[Puppet Master Silva]

If I threaten Baka will it get the thread locked?

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

"It isn't Dzeko's fault, it is Mancini" has carried over to "It isn't Dzeko's fault, it is Pellegrini" I see.

And there's nobody who wants Dzeko for anything near a reasonable price, City have been trying to ship him out for two years.

If you are clubs official for the transfers then I am sorry. May I ask how can you be so certain that nobody ???? wants Dzeko.
Bayern wanted him 1,5 years ago City wanted too many money ( around 20 mil )

Well if he's such a world class player, how on earth is £20m too much money?

 

[Damocles]

I'd be surprised if someone would pay 20 million Lira for him at the minute

 

[aguero93:20]

"It isn't Dzeko's fault, it is Mancini" has carried over to "It isn't Dzeko's fault, it is Pellegrini" I see.

And there's nobody who wants Dzeko for anything near a reasonable price, City have been trying to ship him out for two years.

If you are clubs official for the transfers then I am sorry. May I ask how can you be so certain that nobody ???? wants Dzeko.
Bayern wanted him 1,5 years ago City wanted too many money ( around 20 mil )

Well if he's such a world class player, how on earth is £20m too much money?

who made Baka the official for bayerns transfers?

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

If you are clubs official for the transfers then I am sorry. May I ask how can you be so certain that nobody ???? wants Dzeko.
Bayern wanted him 1,5 years ago City wanted too many money ( around 20 mil )

Well if he's such a world class player, how on earth is £20m too much money?

who made Baka the official for bayerns transfers?

This is how The Fail reported it:

Edin Dzeko has priced himself out of a move to Bayern Munich after they ditched their interest in him and opted for a cheaper option instead.

Bayern want another striker to provide competition for Mario Gomez and installed Manchester City's former Wolfsburg marksman Dzeko as their top choice, as revealed in Sportsmail at the end of last season.

But the 26-year-old's wage demands of around £125,000 a week have proved too rich for the Champions League finalists and forced them to switch their sights to Croatia frontrunner Mario Mandzukic.

Read more: <a class="postlink" href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2164640/Edin-Dzeko-Bayern-Munich-doubt.html#ixzz2pigwfpro" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... z2pigwfpro</a>
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[aguero93:20]

Well if he's such a world class player, how on earth is £20m too much money?

who made Baka the official for bayerns transfers?

This is how The Fail reported it:

Edin Dzeko has priced himself out of a move to Bayern Munich after they ditched their interest in him and opted for a cheaper option instead.

Bayern want another striker to provide competition for Mario Gomez and installed Manchester City's former Wolfsburg marksman Dzeko as their top choice, as revealed in Sportsmail at the end of last season.

But the 26-year-old's wage demands of around £125,000 a week have proved too rich for the Champions League finalists and forced them to switch their sights to Croatia frontrunner Mario Mandzukic.

Read more: <a class="postlink" href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2164640/Edin-Dzeko-Bayern-Munich-doubt.html#ixzz2pigwfpro" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... z2pigwfpro</a>
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See this bit I've highlighted Baka? that would be edin's demands, not city's! (that's if the daily fail aren't just talking shite)