Edin Dzeko (contract update page 370)

[AntiUnited]

Re: Edin Dzeko legend

Here's a fun activity for everyone to try - watch the game again and focus on Aguero. Convince yourself that he's shit. Tell yourself that he loses the ball almost every time he gets it and that most of the time he doesn't even bother challenging for high balls. Tell yourself he always dribbles into trouble instead of passing to open team-mates, and that his shooting is woeful. Now watch his every move with all of that in mind and let confirmation bias do the rest.

If you've completed this activity properly you'll now be convinced Aguero was dreadful last night because at one time or another (and on multiple occasions in some cases), he did all of those things. When each bad play happened, it would confirm all your preconceived notions of just how shit he is. Sure, he did some good things as well, but you know he's shit, so you don't let that ruin the story you already have worked out in your head. He probably just got lucky anyway.

Now try it for Tevez.

How about Dzeko? Ah, but most of the posters on this thread have already done this little activity for him, and even posted their results (see above. And probably below as well).

Kun/tevez are untouchable here well kun more then teves. he does no wrong :P.

 

[St Helens Blue (Exiled)]

Re: Edin Dzeko legend

Goals per minutes fantastic.

First touch.Fucking Abysmal.

That's all

 

[pudge]

Re: Edin Dzeko legend

Here's a fun activity for everyone to try - watch the game again and focus on Aguero. Convince yourself that he's shit. Tell yourself that he loses the ball almost every time he gets it and that most of the time he doesn't even bother challenging for high balls. Tell yourself he always dribbles into trouble instead of passing to open team-mates, and that his shooting is woeful. Now watch his every move with all of that in mind and let confirmation bias do the rest.

If you've completed this activity properly you'll now be convinced Aguero was dreadful last night because at one time or another (and on multiple occasions in some cases), he did all of those things. When each bad play happened, it would confirm all your preconceived notions of just how shit he is. Sure, he did some good things as well, but you know he's shit, so you don't let that ruin the story you already have worked out in your head. He probably just got lucky anyway.

Now try it for Tevez.

How about Dzeko? Ah, but most of the posters on this thread have already done this little activity for him, and even posted their results (see above. And probably below as well).

Here's a fun activity for you - Tell me, what is the topic of this thread?

 

[Shaelumstash]

Re: Edin Dzeko legend

Here's a fun activity for everyone to try - watch the game again and focus on Aguero. Convince yourself that he's shit. Tell yourself that he loses the ball almost every time he gets it and that most of the time he doesn't even bother challenging for high balls. Tell yourself he always dribbles into trouble instead of passing to open team-mates, and that his shooting is woeful. Now watch his every move with all of that in mind and let confirmation bias do the rest.

If you've completed this activity properly you'll now be convinced Aguero was dreadful last night because at one time or another (and on multiple occasions in some cases), he did all of those things. When each bad play happened, it would confirm all your preconceived notions of just how shit he is. Sure, he did some good things as well, but you know he's shit, so you don't let that ruin the story you already have worked out in your head. He probably just got lucky anyway.

Now try it for Tevez.

How about Dzeko? Ah, but most of the posters on this thread have already done this little activity for him, and even posted their results (see above. And probably below as well).

Intetesting point. Why do you think so many watch Dzeko with this negative view and have those thoughts re-confirmed by his actions? Have they wanted him to fail since he got here? Is there some kind of intrinsic discrimination towards Bosnian people by City fans? Is it because he is tall and City fans hate tall people? Or could it be their negative views are based on his previous poor performance?

 

[No17]

Re: Edin Dzeko legend

Here's a fun activity for everyone to try - watch the game again and focus on Aguero. Convince yourself that he's shit. Tell yourself that he loses the ball almost every time he gets it and that most of the time he doesn't even bother challenging for high balls. Tell yourself he always dribbles into trouble instead of passing to open team-mates, and that his shooting is woeful. Now watch his every move with all of that in mind and let confirmation bias do the rest.

If you've completed this activity properly you'll now be convinced Aguero was dreadful last night because at one time or another (and on multiple occasions in some cases), he did all of those things. When each bad play happened, it would confirm all your preconceived notions of just how shit he is. Sure, he did some good things as well, but you know he's shit, so you don't let that ruin the story you already have worked out in your head. He probably just got lucky anyway.

Now try it for Tevez.

How about Dzeko? Ah, but most of the posters on this thread have already done this little activity for him, and even posted their results (see above. And probably below as well).

Intetesting point. Why do you think so many watch Dzeko with this negative view and have those thoughts re-confirmed by his actions? Have they wanted him to fail since he got here? Is there some kind of intrinsic discrimination towards Bosnian people by City fans? Is it because he is tall and City fans hate tall people? Or could it be their negative views are based on his previous poor performance?

in my humble opinion this thread is he case of "everyone is right"...it's just the way of how you want to look at things

die hard bosnian dzeko fans will say city fans use the quoted method to judge him because they've seen him before he came to city and know how good he is when he's on top of his game...

people don't judge aguero the same way because he was hot on form as soon as he came, from the moment he stepped onto the pitch against Swansea...his bad form and bad touches right now are just the case of a temporary dip...

as for dzeko, he came in had a nice debut but since then really took his time to get going...and had more dry patches than good ones...so people use it as a benchmark because city fans judge his contribution to the city squad and not his contribution to wolfsburg or bosnian national team...

yes you could use the quoted method for every player and tell they're shit, the thing is, none of them is...it's just a case of being fit for the system, players like aguero and tevez are the type of players who thrive on the intricate short passing game style while dzeko is a more, counter-attacking, fast pace, get at the end of a cross type of a player, and whenever city play that way with him on the pitch he's deadly, tottenham away last season, west brom this year..

so the fact is, all these players are top players, it's a case of what do you want to accept as a fact and how you want to judge them...yes dzeko is shit for a team that plays short, slow intricate passes and feels out of place most of the time...but you have to give one thing to him, even in that type of a squad he has a hell of a goal return...

 

[dajd1984]

Re: Edin Dzeko legend

Here's a fun activity for everyone to try - watch the game again and focus on Aguero. Convince yourself that he's shit. Tell yourself that he loses the ball almost every time he gets it and that most of the time he doesn't even bother challenging for high balls. Tell yourself he always dribbles into trouble instead of passing to open team-mates, and that his shooting is woeful. Now watch his every move with all of that in mind and let confirmation bias do the rest.

If you've completed this activity properly you'll now be convinced Aguero was dreadful last night because at one time or another (and on multiple occasions in some cases), he did all of those things. When each bad play happened, it would confirm all your preconceived notions of just how shit he is. Sure, he did some good things as well, but you know he's shit, so you don't let that ruin the story you already have worked out in your head. He probably just got lucky anyway.

Now try it for Tevez.

How about Dzeko? Ah, but most of the posters on this thread have already done this little activity for him, and even posted their results (see above. And probably below as well).

Intetesting point. Why do you think so many watch Dzeko with this negative view and have those thoughts re-confirmed by his actions? Have they wanted him to fail since he got here? Is there some kind of intrinsic discrimination towards Bosnian people by City fans? Is it because he is tall and City fans hate tall people? Or could it be their negative views are based on his previous poor performance?

Whether there is a reason for it or not, it points out that people are not making a single game performance on that one game. So Sergio gets na better review without actually playing better.
How many times has he produced moments like his second goal on his debut. Far too few.

 

[Shaelumstash]

Re: Edin Dzeko legend

Here's a fun activity for everyone to try - watch the game again and focus on Aguero. Convince yourself that he's shit. Tell yourself that he loses the ball almost every time he gets it and that most of the time he doesn't even bother challenging for high balls. Tell yourself he always dribbles into trouble instead of passing to open team-mates, and that his shooting is woeful. Now watch his every move with all of that in mind and let confirmation bias do the rest.

If you've completed this activity properly you'll now be convinced Aguero was dreadful last night because at one time or another (and on multiple occasions in some cases), he did all of those things. When each bad play happened, it would confirm all your preconceived notions of just how shit he is. Sure, he did some good things as well, but you know he's shit, so you don't let that ruin the story you already have worked out in your head. He probably just got lucky anyway.

Now try it for Tevez.

How about Dzeko? Ah, but most of the posters on this thread have already done this little activity for him, and even posted their results (see above. And probably below as well).

Intetesting point. Why do you think so many watch Dzeko with this negative view and have those thoughts re-confirmed by his actions? Have they wanted him to fail since he got here? Is there some kind of intrinsic discrimination towards Bosnian people by City fans? Is it because he is tall and City fans hate tall people? Or could it be their negative views are based on his previous poor performance?

Whether there is a reason for it or not, it points out that people are not making a single game performance on that one game. So Sergio gets na better review without actually playing better.
How many times has he produced moments like his second goal on his debut. Far too few.

If people look on Dzeko in a negative manner it is because he has been poor in a high proportion of his games for City. If people look at Aguero in a positive manner it is because he has been good in a high proportion of his games for City. It's as simple as that. There's no agenda, everyone wants him to do well, but unfortunately when he starts he is consistently disappointing.

 

[NorCalBlue]

Re: Edin Dzeko legend

Intetesting point. Why do you think so many watch Dzeko with this negative view and have those thoughts re-confirmed by his actions? Have they wanted him to fail since he got here? Is there some kind of intrinsic discrimination towards Bosnian people by City fans? Is it because he is tall and City fans hate tall people? Or could it be their negative views are based on his previous poor performance?

Whether there is a reason for it or not, it points out that people are not making a single game performance on that one game. So Sergio gets na better review without actually playing better.
How many times has he produced moments like his second goal on his debut. Far too few.

If people look on Dzeko in a negative manner it is because he has been poor in a high proportion of his games for City. If people look at Aguero in a positive manner it is because he has been good in a high proportion of his games for City. It's as simple as that. There's no agenda, everyone wants him to do well, but unfortunately when he starts he is consistently disappointing.

It may well be that there's a good reason some people have a negative view of his ability - he did have a difficult start to his time at City. I get that. But if you keep unfairly judging someone based on first impressions, they never have a chance to change that impression - it just reinforces the stereotype. So if Dzeko plays okay (certainly no worse than the other strikers), it's unfair to say he was shit. I suppose you could say that his average performance is still worse than Aguero's, but that's different from judging his performance in a single game.

 

[Ticket For Schalke]

Re: Edin Dzeko legend

when was the last time he scored when he started?

i find when he starts we try to mold the game around him from the start, whereas if he comes on he needs to fit into the game.

 

[NorCalBlue]

Re: Edin Dzeko legend

Here's a fun activity for everyone to try - watch the game again and focus on Aguero. Convince yourself that he's shit. Tell yourself that he loses the ball almost every time he gets it and that most of the time he doesn't even bother challenging for high balls. Tell yourself he always dribbles into trouble instead of passing to open team-mates, and that his shooting is woeful. Now watch his every move with all of that in mind and let confirmation bias do the rest.

If you've completed this activity properly you'll now be convinced Aguero was dreadful last night because at one time or another (and on multiple occasions in some cases), he did all of those things. When each bad play happened, it would confirm all your preconceived notions of just how shit he is. Sure, he did some good things as well, but you know he's shit, so you don't let that ruin the story you already have worked out in your head. He probably just got lucky anyway.

Now try it for Tevez.

How about Dzeko? Ah, but most of the posters on this thread have already done this little activity for him, and even posted their results (see above. And probably below as well).

Here's a fun activity for you - Tell me, what is the topic of this thread?

It appears to have started out as a thread about how good Dzeko is, and has since devolved into a place to praise him wildly when he comes on and wins the game, and to slag him off mercilessly when he starts a game but doesn't score.

Most of his fans (a lot of Bosnians, apparently) view his performances with the knowledge that he is a great player, having seen him dominate the Budesliga for 2 years, and most of his detractors view his performances with the knowledge that he's complete dog-shit, having watched him struggle during his early days at City. As a consequence of these biases, the two groups watch Dzeko play in the same game and come away with wildly divergent views on his performance.

My aim was to try to explain how this situation has arisen and hence explain 90% of the content in this thread. And you were right, that was a fun activity.