Edin Dzeko (contract update page 370)

[Centurions]

Re: Edin Dzeko

Everyone who played contributed to that title win. Dzeko played plenty, scored plenty and therefore contributed plenty. Now as I remember correctly we didn't win the title by plenty, so indeed without Dzeko it is fair to say we may not have won the league.

Hope this simple analysis of the with or without him question helps the simple amongst you.

Since this post is about as useful as anything 'noise' posts, no not really.

 

[Puppet Master Silva]

Re: Edin Dzeko

It's pretty obvious that he was instrumental in the 2nd part of the season. Just his snide time wasting against Everton may have made the difference.

I think the issue here is we're talking in hypotheticals as if they are facts. It's clear that Edin Dzeko's goals helped us a long way towards winning the title last season, however so did the actions of many different players throughout the season. Negredo's goals, Yaya's goals, Kompany's defending, Kolarov's crossing, in short everyone who played made a contribution so you could, arguably, pick anyone who wore a City shirt last season and claim, "we wouldn't have won the title last season" if it wasn't for them, as who knows what would have happened if they hadn't been on the pitch and someone else had been. The probable here is that, were Dzeko to have been unavailable for the last 6 months of the season then someone would have played in his place, we'd have still had 11 men on the pitch. How on earth are we supposed to know, A - Who that "someone" would have been and B - What contribution they would have made to our title push? It's impossible to assess as it's a purely hypothetical situation with no way of categorically proving anything. The only thing we can be sure of, the only thing that is a fact, is that the contribution Dzeko put in helped us win the league. Would we have won the league without him, but with someone else? Absolutely impossible to know.

As far as I know it's only when we talk about Dzeko that the old, "any other player could have done it" deriding takes place.

Because no one else is stupid enough to post "Without Sergio we wouldn't of won the league".

 

[jared]

Re: Edin Dzeko

Groundhog season yet again with the factions ably led by Commander Matty and General Noise.

God help us all if Edin signs a new 5 year contract. The debate on this forum will rival the Napoleonic Wars in length and victims!

ps

I would be quite pleased if he did renew his contract (sorry Matty).

Just hoping the haters will give it a rest for awhile. Seriously, it's bad enough when other fans denigrating our club and players at other sites but to come back here and see people here putting down one of our own main guy at any little opportunity is heartbreaking.

 

[br62]

Re: Edin Dzeko

What struck me yesterday was his hold-up play. He did well on several occasions to retain possession and showed good control......which he should be able to do with his size and physique. In the past he has been guilty of losing the ball quite a lot in similar situations so it was good to see a big improvement in this part of his game. Let's hope he can maintain this level of performance in the future......he has definitely improved a lot under Pellegrini.

 

[NorCalBlue]

Re: Edin Dzeko

I think the issue here is we're talking in hypotheticals as if they are facts. It's clear that Edin Dzeko's goals helped us a long way towards winning the title last season, however so did the actions of many different players throughout the season. Negredo's goals, Yaya's goals, Kompany's defending, Kolarov's crossing, in short everyone who played made a contribution so you could, arguably, pick anyone who wore a City shirt last season and claim, "we wouldn't have won the title last season" if it wasn't for them, as who knows what would have happened if they hadn't been on the pitch and someone else had been. The probable here is that, were Dzeko to have been unavailable for the last 6 months of the season then someone would have played in his place, we'd have still had 11 men on the pitch. How on earth are we supposed to know, A - Who that "someone" would have been and B - What contribution they would have made to our title push? It's impossible to assess as it's a purely hypothetical situation with no way of categorically proving anything. The only thing we can be sure of, the only thing that is a fact, is that the contribution Dzeko put in helped us win the league. Would we have won the league without him, but with someone else? Absolutely impossible to know.

As far as I know it's only when we talk about Dzeko that the old, "any other player could have done it" deriding takes place.

Because no one else is stupid enough to post "Without Sergio we wouldn't of won the league".

I agree that no single player is responsible for winning a football match (or the league), and therefore I certainly don't think "Dzeko won us the league" last season. However, it's not true to suggest that only Dzeko fans are stupid and biased enough to say such a thing. I think you'll find a large number of people (including many on here) who said the same thing about Tevez in 2012-13.

 

[noise]

Re: Edin Dzeko

I think the issue here is we're talking in hypotheticals as if they are facts. It's clear that Edin Dzeko's goals helped us a long way towards winning the title last season, however so did the actions of many different players throughout the season. Negredo's goals, Yaya's goals, Kompany's defending, Kolarov's crossing, in short everyone who played made a contribution so you could, arguably, pick anyone who wore a City shirt last season and claim, "we wouldn't have won the title last season" if it wasn't for them, as who knows what would have happened if they hadn't been on the pitch and someone else had been. The probable here is that, were Dzeko to have been unavailable for the last 6 months of the season then someone would have played in his place, we'd have still had 11 men on the pitch. How on earth are we supposed to know, A - Who that "someone" would have been and B - What contribution they would have made to our title push? It's impossible to assess as it's a purely hypothetical situation with no way of categorically proving anything. The only thing we can be sure of, the only thing that is a fact, is that the contribution Dzeko put in helped us win the league. Would we have won the league without him, but with someone else? Absolutely impossible to know.

As far as I know it's only when we talk about Dzeko that the old, "any other player could have done it" deriding takes place.

Because no one else is stupid enough to post "Without Sergio we wouldn't of won the league".

That's a bold statement.

 

[mcfcinprague]

Re: Edin Dzeko

I think the issue here is we're talking in hypotheticals as if they are facts. It's clear that Edin Dzeko's goals helped us a long way towards winning the title last season, however so did the actions of many different players throughout the season. Negredo's goals, Yaya's goals, Kompany's defending, Kolarov's crossing, in short everyone who played made a contribution so you could, arguably, pick anyone who wore a City shirt last season and claim, "we wouldn't have won the title last season" if it wasn't for them, as who knows what would have happened if they hadn't been on the pitch and someone else had been. The probable here is that, were Dzeko to have been unavailable for the last 6 months of the season then someone would have played in his place, we'd have still had 11 men on the pitch. How on earth are we supposed to know, A - Who that "someone" would have been and B - What contribution they would have made to our title push? It's impossible to assess as it's a purely hypothetical situation with no way of categorically proving anything. The only thing we can be sure of, the only thing that is a fact, is that the contribution Dzeko put in helped us win the league. Would we have won the league without him, but with someone else? Absolutely impossible to know.

As far as I know it's only when we talk about Dzeko that the old, "any other player could have done it" deriding takes place.

Because no one else is stupid enough to post "Without Sergio we wouldn't of won the league".

You are quite correct, they would say "Without Sergio we wouldn't have won the league"

 

[bluealf]

Re: Edin Dzeko

Well he scored them and we won the title that is the proof you seek, of course somebody else playing may well have scored the same amount of goals but that didn't happen, so Dzekos late season form pushed us over the line.

Of course we could ask about all the shit analogies said about Dzeko being useless, when it is pretty much proven he isn't useless at all.

And without Negredo's form over the first half of the season we wouldn't have won the league.

Exactly.Fucking team game.Not one person won or lost us games and the sooner some fans get that into their thick skulls the better.Some refs actually helped us to win and lose us games,team selections,formations,own goals,sendings off,bookings,the weather,poor judgement and other clubs results,good luck,bad luck,the list is endless,but to claim one individual was the sole reason we won the league is in a word ... bollocks !!!

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Maybe you want to look inside your own fucking thick skull and ask yourself why people are constantly running down a striker who scores more than his fair share of goals and has elicited a massive thread full of shit both for and against him, the Bosnians are going to love him as they are fan boys but the actual City fans need to take a good look at themselves and wonder why they think a player that has scored 66 goals for our club is shit, at any other time in the past 30 years he would have been an idol like Rosler.

 

[Saddleworth2]

Re: Edin Dzeko

Groundhog season yet again with the factions ably led by Commander Matty and General Noise.

God help us all if Edin signs a new 5 year contract. The debate on this forum will rival the Napoleonic Wars in length and victims!

ps

I would be quite pleased if he did renew his contract (sorry Matty).

Just hoping the haters will give it a rest for awhile. Seriously, it's bad enough when other fans denigrating our club and players at other sites but to come back here and see people here putting down one of our own main guy at any little opportunity is heartbreaking.

Completely agree. Don't understand the debate; he scores really important goals and is a model professional. Sure he makes mistakes but so does every other player in the premier league! Surely by now he deserves 100% support?

 

[Ray78]

Re: Edin Dzeko

He has shown signs of improvement in his game to warrant a new deal,

 

[Thenumber1blue]

Re: Edin Dzeko

Anyone who can't see his worth in the squad is a fuckin idiot and should take up another sport !

 

[TTTCITYBHOY]

Re: Edin Dzeko

For fucks sake why do people keep using this shit analogy when it cant be proven.

Well he scored them and we won the title that is the proof you seek, of course somebody else playing may well have scored the same amount of goals but that didn't happen, so Dzekos late season form pushed us over the line.

Of course we could ask about all the shit analogies said about Dzeko being useless, when it is pretty much proven he isn't useless at all.

And without Negredo's form over the first half of the season we wouldn't have won the league.

And without Joeys save against blue dippers we might not have won the league.
And without the few disallowed goals against us we might not have won the league.
And without Sami's goal v Mackems we might not have won the league.
We could be here all fukn night.
We're the Champions,end of.
Edin,you sign that extension mate,I for 1 want you here for a while yet.

 

[Davs 19]

Re: Edin Dzeko

Groundhog season yet again with the factions ably led by Commander Matty and General Noise.

God help us all if Edin signs a new 5 year contract. The debate on this forum will rival the Napoleonic Wars in length and victims!

ps

I would be quite pleased if he did renew his contract (sorry Matty).

Just hoping the haters will give it a rest for awhile. Seriously, it's bad enough when other fans denigrating our club and players at other sites but to come back here and see people here putting down one of our own main guy at any little opportunity is heartbreaking.

Completely agree. Don't understand the debate; he scores really important goals and is a model professional. Sure he makes mistakes but so does every other player in the premier league! Surely by now he deserves 100% support?

He's always been supported at the match TBF. I think that you may need to accept that players aren't idolised by all on an internet footy forum and their performances, strengths and weaknesses will be discussed ad infinitum, it wasn't that long ago that some on here we're saying Zab wasn't good enough ;.)

 

[Saddleworth2]

Re: Edin Dzeko

Just hoping the haters will give it a rest for awhile. Seriously, it's bad enough when other fans denigrating our club and players at other sites but to come back here and see people here putting down one of our own main guy at any little opportunity is heartbreaking.

Completely agree. Don't understand the debate; he scores really important goals and is a model professional. Sure he makes mistakes but so does every other player in the premier league! Surely by now he deserves 100% support?

He's always been supported at the match TBF. I think that you may need to accept that players aren't idolised by all on an internet footy forum and their performances, strengths and weaknesses will be discussed ad infinitum, it wasn't that long ago that some on here we're saying Zab wasn't good enough ;.)

Understand. Balanced analysis of strengths and weaknesses is good. Sometimes the debate about Dzeko seems to lack a bit of balance IMO. As a newby on here I may have got that wrong though! :-)

 

[richards30]

Re: Edin Dzeko

Top man yesterday and hopefully its given him the confidence he seems to need to play well. I like edin and hes scored some huge goals for us and will be delighted when its confirmed he has signed. Expect a few lamp post moments though as well throughout the season!

 

[Burtonblue]

Re: Edin Dzeko

Excellent professional.
Took a lot of shit from Mancini at times and behaved impeccably.
He belongs here.

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

Re: Edin Dzeko

Anyone who can't see his worth in the squad is a fuckin idiot and should take up another sport !

Have you come through your 'Joe Hart is shit and should be fucked off ' phase yet ?

 

[taconinja]

Re: Edin Dzeko

Completely agree. Don't understand the debate; he scores really important goals and is a model professional. Sure he makes mistakes but so does every other player in the premier league! Surely by now he deserves 100% support?

He's always been supported at the match TBF. I think that you may need to accept that players aren't idolised by all on an internet footy forum and their performances, strengths and weaknesses will be discussed ad infinitum, it wasn't that long ago that some on here we're saying Zab wasn't good enough ;.)

Understand. Balanced analysis of strengths and weaknesses is good. Sometimes the debate about Dzeko seems to lack a bit of balance IMO. As a newby on here I may have got that wrong though! :-)

It's been better for a while honestly, but memories play a part. For a good long while, there were some very fervent Dzeko supporters who looked for any opportunity to take down our other players and they ranted endlessly about Dzeko rotating out for one match against inferior opposition post-Tottenham match in order to be rested for the Champions League. The worst seem to have got themselves banned. I wish he forum would go for a fresh start, though, when it comes to the player.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

Re: Edin Dzeko

He's always been supported at the match TBF. I think that you may need to accept that players aren't idolised by all on an internet footy forum and their performances, strengths and weaknesses will be discussed ad infinitum, it wasn't that long ago that some on here we're saying Zab wasn't good enough ;.)

Understand. Balanced analysis of strengths and weaknesses is good. Sometimes the debate about Dzeko seems to lack a bit of balance IMO. As a newby on here I may have got that wrong though! :-)

It's been better for a while honestly, but memories play a part. For a good long while, there were some very fervent Dzeko supporters who looked for any opportunity to take down our other players and they ranted endlessly about Dzeko rotating out for one match against inferior opposition post-Tottenham match in order to be rested for the Champions League. The worst seem to have got themselves banned. I wish he forum would go for a fresh start, though, when it comes to the player.

I seem to recall People getting banned for taking their support for Edin a bit too far but sweet FA happening to one or two loons who mocked the war in Bosnia.

Anyway, I'm more interested in what happens on the pitch and Edin was very good against the Geordies.

 

[80s Shorts]

Re: Edin Dzeko