Edin Dzeko

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No17 said:
Marvin said:
No17 said:
The player would have a say in that transfer too, and I don't think he'd go to Napoli.

As Marvin says, his heart is not in it at City, his falling about and rolling on the ground the wind blows past him just shows that he's either had it, and that he is on his way out.

Tonight he has shown that he has the strength to hold of two even three players at a time and he was enjoying himself, greeks were bouncing off him, he held the ball up brilliantly...

As for silva suiting more aguero that dzeko, I disagree, Silva is a player who can suit anyone, he has the magic touch to find any player, any way, any time, it's just that he's restricted to go through the middle and ping balls in low...his skills range far more than that and he, more than any other player is not being used to his full potential....Misimovic, from our NT is no where near as good as Silva, but his simplicity of passing is what makes him brilliant for us, all he has to do is put the ball into space, and not try and over complicate things...that's why Dzeko shines there, because in NT, the runs he makes are noted and exploited to the max...at City, it's no use making any runs because the ball will either go back or sideways most of the time...one example of Silva and Dzeko cooperation was seen against tottenham when he put the ball over the top in front of Edin who smashed it home...

as long as this team is being restricted, and as long as the midfield is not performing well, strikers can't do a shit about that...
Dzeko is one of the best centre-forwards in Europe and has proved it with his trophies and goals. And by his performances for Bosnia.

But there are some teams which complement his style, and some where you'd think he'd struggle.

We'd have been better off this season had we based our forward game around Balotelli or Dzeko but as it is both look like they both grew disillusioned. I might be doing Dzeko a dis-service but he has had some opportunities recently for City and he hasn't made the most of them.

I agree that he has had opportunities, but to be honest, in my eyes putting a player on the pitch and not using him to his full potential is not really an opportunity, I think you'll have to agree with me on this...not only him but even Tevez could not profit from the midfield play in the Everton match (sorry but as an Everton fan I was pleased to see that)...

things need to change in the midfield, the team is crying for pace...and if people say things like "oh we need pacey wingers" no it's not it, play a bit more direct, put balls into space for the strikers to run on to and you'll solve half of that problem...width is another issue, but just play more direct, exploit the pace of tevez and you'll see the results...dzeko thrives on balls into space type of football but he rarely gets any, because the ball goes back or sideways...and if you expect him to chase the ball from the halfway line...hmm...if he's not motoring at his full speed then it's a battle he'll probably lose..he has to be in an around the box in order to be effective, and I've seen him more on the wing than in the box...
You can't use Dzeko to his full advantage if you play through the middle which is what City tend to do. Against Everton we played with wing backs and that was purely to get Dzeko in the game.
 
Marvin said:
No17 said:
Marvin said:
Dzeko is one of the best centre-forwards in Europe and has proved it with his trophies and goals. And by his performances for Bosnia.

But there are some teams which complement his style, and some where you'd think he'd struggle.

We'd have been better off this season had we based our forward game around Balotelli or Dzeko but as it is both look like they both grew disillusioned. I might be doing Dzeko a dis-service but he has had some opportunities recently for City and he hasn't made the most of them.

I agree that he has had opportunities, but to be honest, in my eyes putting a player on the pitch and not using him to his full potential is not really an opportunity, I think you'll have to agree with me on this...not only him but even Tevez could not profit from the midfield play in the Everton match (sorry but as an Everton fan I was pleased to see that)...

things need to change in the midfield, the team is crying for pace...and if people say things like "oh we need pacey wingers" no it's not it, play a bit more direct, put balls into space for the strikers to run on to and you'll solve half of that problem...width is another issue, but just play more direct, exploit the pace of tevez and you'll see the results...dzeko thrives on balls into space type of football but he rarely gets any, because the ball goes back or sideways...and if you expect him to chase the ball from the halfway line...hmm...if he's not motoring at his full speed then it's a battle he'll probably lose..he has to be in an around the box in order to be effective, and I've seen him more on the wing than in the box...
You can't use Dzeko to his full advantage if you play through the middle which is what City tend to do. Against Everton we played with wing backs and that was purely to get Dzeko in the game.

true, but none of Kolarov's crosses passed the first man, and Zabaleta hadn't crossed a ball the whole match...and I don't agree that playing through the middle doesn't bring the best of dzeko...but then again that's just my oppinion, he makes runs that are not exploited...even if the ball doesn't go to him, he pull the defense wide and opens spaces for midfielders to run into...that's also not exploited...
 
Pudge are you a wum?? Either that or you're too old to remember just what a shite collection of centre forwards we've had down the years

If not you must have nout better to do than spend all night criticizing one of the best forwards to wear a City shirt

Who would you replace him with ? Falcao or Cavani this season's flavour of the month duo who piss poor tabloid hacks keep referring to as they have no in depth knowledge of footy ?
 
No17 said:
Marvin said:
No17 said:
I agree that he has had opportunities, but to be honest, in my eyes putting a player on the pitch and not using him to his full potential is not really an opportunity, I think you'll have to agree with me on this...not only him but even Tevez could not profit from the midfield play in the Everton match (sorry but as an Everton fan I was pleased to see that)...

things need to change in the midfield, the team is crying for pace...and if people say things like "oh we need pacey wingers" no it's not it, play a bit more direct, put balls into space for the strikers to run on to and you'll solve half of that problem...width is another issue, but just play more direct, exploit the pace of tevez and you'll see the results...dzeko thrives on balls into space type of football but he rarely gets any, because the ball goes back or sideways...and if you expect him to chase the ball from the halfway line...hmm...if he's not motoring at his full speed then it's a battle he'll probably lose..he has to be in an around the box in order to be effective, and I've seen him more on the wing than in the box...
You can't use Dzeko to his full advantage if you play through the middle which is what City tend to do. Against Everton we played with wing backs and that was purely to get Dzeko in the game.

true, but none of Kolarov's crosses passed the first man, and Zabaleta hadn't crossed a ball the whole match...and I don't agree that playing through the middle doesn't bring the best of dzeko...but then again that's just my oppinion, he makes runs that are not exploited...even if the ball doesn't go to him, he pull the defense wide and opens spaces for midfielders to run into...that's also not exploited...
You need to be quick, and nimble to play in front of Silva and that's why City are struggling with Tevez and Dzeko up front and why Mancini went for Kolarov as a wing back. It might not have worked but I understand where he's coming from.
 
Marvin said:
No17 said:
Marvin said:
You can't use Dzeko to his full advantage if you play through the middle which is what City tend to do. Against Everton we played with wing backs and that was purely to get Dzeko in the game.

true, but none of Kolarov's crosses passed the first man, and Zabaleta hadn't crossed a ball the whole match...and I don't agree that playing through the middle doesn't bring the best of dzeko...but then again that's just my oppinion, he makes runs that are not exploited...even if the ball doesn't go to him, he pull the defense wide and opens spaces for midfielders to run into...that's also not exploited...
You need to be quick, and nimble to play in front of Silva and that's why City are struggling with Tevez and Dzeko up front and why Mancini went for Kolarov as a wing back. It might not have worked but I understand where he's coming from.

of course, I understand that too, I mean it's a logical decision...I know people are fed up with examples from Dzeko's wolfsburg days but, they had Misimovic=Silva behind Dzeko and Grafite (who is a shit version of Dzeko) and it worked perfectly....but I think it's not just the front three in city, it's the midfield that needs fixing...
 
No17 said:
Marvin said:
No17 said:
true, but none of Kolarov's crosses passed the first man, and Zabaleta hadn't crossed a ball the whole match...and I don't agree that playing through the middle doesn't bring the best of dzeko...but then again that's just my oppinion, he makes runs that are not exploited...even if the ball doesn't go to him, he pull the defense wide and opens spaces for midfielders to run into...that's also not exploited...
You need to be quick, and nimble to play in front of Silva and that's why City are struggling with Tevez and Dzeko up front and why Mancini went for Kolarov as a wing back. It might not have worked but I understand where he's coming from.

of course, I understand that too, I mean it's a logical decision...I know people are fed up with examples from Dzeko's wolfsburg days but, they had Misimovic=Silva behind Dzeko and Grafite (who is a shit version of Dzeko) and it worked perfectly....but I think it's not just the front three in city, it's the midfield that needs fixing...
City's defence and midfield is the best or 2nd best in the Premiership in terms of goals conceded, shots conceded, possession, passes made, chances created. We don't top each category but overall where we fall down big time is in taking chances where we are average
 
Marvin said:
No17 said:
Marvin said:
You need to be quick, and nimble to play in front of Silva and that's why City are struggling with Tevez and Dzeko up front and why Mancini went for Kolarov as a wing back. It might not have worked but I understand where he's coming from.

of course, I understand that too, I mean it's a logical decision...I know people are fed up with examples from Dzeko's wolfsburg days but, they had Misimovic=Silva behind Dzeko and Grafite (who is a shit version of Dzeko) and it worked perfectly....but I think it's not just the front three in city, it's the midfield that needs fixing...
City's defence and midfield is the best or 2nd best in the Premiership in terms of goals conceded, shots conceded, possession, passes made, chances created. We don't top each category but overall where we fall down big time is in taking chances where we are average

Lies, damned lies and statistics.

We don't create enough clear cut chances. Plenty of half chances and little snapshots and individual skill that nearly creates a clear scoring opportunity but nowhere near enough "he must score here" chances.
 
Santiago Street . said:
Pudge are you a wum?? Either that or you're too old to remember just what a shite collection of centre forwards we've had down the years

If not you must have nout better to do than spend all night criticizing one of the best forwards to wear a City shirt

Who would you replace him with ? Falcao or Cavani this season's flavour of the month duo who piss poor tabloid hacks keep referring to as they have no in depth knowledge of footy ?
Brilliant.

I comment on Dzeko and the thread grows by 10 pages.

Yet other posters have openly questioned his ability and criticised him the past few pages and not one poster has quoted and questioned them.

Does Dzeko use his strength to bully defenders? No

Does he go down to easily at times? Yes

Does he look bothered lately? No

Yet I'm a wum for saying as much. Not once have I called him shite but you wouldn't think it judging by what happens when I comment on him.
 
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