Edin Dzeko

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badman said:
the old abbey said:
all dzeko lovers are really united fans on here in disguise cos they know how shite he is and there laughing there tits off praying him to stay.

we love dzeko because he's a city player.

anyone that abuses, disrespects or insults our players is not one of us.

Hhhhhhhhhhhhhhahahhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.Can tell you`re a newbie mate.
 
Matty said:
Quite frankly, at this stage, who knows what tactics we'll be employing next season. There's an assumption we'll get Pellegrini as the manager, and that he'll employ more width and pace than Mancini did, but at this stage it's not a certainty. What we do know is:-

1 - Dzeko simply did not suit Mancini's tactics, if anything Mancini's tactics played to Dzeko biggest flaws and completely ignored his strengths.

2 - Dzeko, for whatever reason, seemed to give up last season. Early doors he was on the bench and was actively putting in some fight to try and change that, however the second half of the season saw a far more lacklustre and disinterested Dzeko. Potentially frustrated with a lack of opportunities, or with the tactics, or with the manager himself. Whatever the reason, it was an unacceptable lack of effort.

3 - Dzeko will never be a top class striker. Don't get me wrong, he's good, very good on occasion, but his weaknesses will never allow him to be a key player at a club like City. His passing is never going to be good enough, and his first touch too is not of the required standard. At a lower level club, the next level down, so a Wolfsburg/Everton/Sevilla/Lazio type level he'd probably be absolutely fine, but for a title contender, and a Champion's League hopeful he'll never quite be good enough.

i disagree. dzeko would do well at clubbs like bayern munich, dortmunt, real madrid. basically all the top clubs that play direct football.
 
badman said:
Matty said:
Quite frankly, at this stage, who knows what tactics we'll be employing next season. There's an assumption we'll get Pellegrini as the manager, and that he'll employ more width and pace than Mancini did, but at this stage it's not a certainty. What we do know is:-

1 - Dzeko simply did not suit Mancini's tactics, if anything Mancini's tactics played to Dzeko biggest flaws and completely ignored his strengths.

2 - Dzeko, for whatever reason, seemed to give up last season. Early doors he was on the bench and was actively putting in some fight to try and change that, however the second half of the season saw a far more lacklustre and disinterested Dzeko. Potentially frustrated with a lack of opportunities, or with the tactics, or with the manager himself. Whatever the reason, it was an unacceptable lack of effort.

3 - Dzeko will never be a top class striker. Don't get me wrong, he's good, very good on occasion, but his weaknesses will never allow him to be a key player at a club like City. His passing is never going to be good enough, and his first touch too is not of the required standard. At a lower level club, the next level down, so a Wolfsburg/Everton/Sevilla/Lazio type level he'd probably be absolutely fine, but for a title contender, and a Champion's League hopeful he'll never quite be good enough.

i disagree. dzeko would do well at clubbs like bayern munich, dortmunt, real madrid. basically all the top clubs that play direct football.
He's nowhere near quick enough for Bayern or Dortmund, and his passing wouldn't be up to par for Real.
 
Matty said:
badman said:
Matty said:
Quite frankly, at this stage, who knows what tactics we'll be employing next season. There's an assumption we'll get Pellegrini as the manager, and that he'll employ more width and pace than Mancini did, but at this stage it's not a certainty. What we do know is:-

1 - Dzeko simply did not suit Mancini's tactics, if anything Mancini's tactics played to Dzeko biggest flaws and completely ignored his strengths.

2 - Dzeko, for whatever reason, seemed to give up last season. Early doors he was on the bench and was actively putting in some fight to try and change that, however the second half of the season saw a far more lacklustre and disinterested Dzeko. Potentially frustrated with a lack of opportunities, or with the tactics, or with the manager himself. Whatever the reason, it was an unacceptable lack of effort.

3 - Dzeko will never be a top class striker. Don't get me wrong, he's good, very good on occasion, but his weaknesses will never allow him to be a key player at a club like City. His passing is never going to be good enough, and his first touch too is not of the required standard. At a lower level club, the next level down, so a Wolfsburg/Everton/Sevilla/Lazio type level he'd probably be absolutely fine, but for a title contender, and a Champion's League hopeful he'll never quite be good enough.

i disagree. dzeko would do well at clubbs like bayern munich, dortmunt, real madrid. basically all the top clubs that play direct football.
He's nowhere near quick enough for Bayern or Dortmund, and his passing wouldn't be up to par for Real.

Have you seen Bayern play?

Mandzukic is not that much quicker than Edin. Nor is Gomes for that matter. They don't need their strikers to be fast, they need them to finish and header.

As for Real Madrid, he would fit perfectly if Mourinho was still there. Edin in a counter attacking scheme is one of the deadliest strikers in the market. There is no need for him to pass the ball because that's not his job. His job is to drive the line and look for the overhead ball for goals.
 
Dzeko is an underrated passer when playing in a direct style of play, facing the goal, or just laying off balls like he did to Rodwell on Saturday. Think how many great through balls he's passed on counterattacks. His first ever game for City was a superb assist to Yaya for goal agains the Wolves.

Problem is that in City's style of play, he has been asked to come back for the ball like midfielders and play tippy tappy football. Dzeko is not built for that and he shouldn't be judged as a striker for not having the skills of a midfielder.
 
BosnianDiamond said:
Dzeko is an underrated passer when playing in a direct style of play, facing the goal, or just laying off balls like he did to Rodwell on Saturday. Think how many great through balls he's passed on counterattacks. His first ever game for City was a superb assist to Yaya for goal agains the Wolves.

Problem is that in City's style of play, he has been asked to come back for the ball like midfielders and play tippy tappy football. Dzeko is not built for that and he shouldn't be judged as a striker for not having the skills of a midfielder.
Tevez drops deep, very rarely does Dzeko have to or even does.
 
pudge said:
BosnianDiamond said:
Dzeko is an underrated passer when playing in a direct style of play, facing the goal, or just laying off balls like he did to Rodwell on Saturday. Think how many great through balls he's passed on counterattacks. His first ever game for City was a superb assist to Yaya for goal agains the Wolves.

Problem is that in City's style of play, he has been asked to come back for the ball like midfielders and play tippy tappy football. Dzeko is not built for that and he shouldn't be judged as a striker for not having the skills of a midfielder.
Tevez drops deep, very rarely does Dzeko have to or even does.

Tevez is a 9 and a half. Meaning he can do a little of both jobs between a centre forward and a midfielder. He's not the best target man because he can't win any air balls, but he's a prolific goalscorer who has adequate passing. That's the only reason he plays so deep.

Just like Francesco Totti, he's a deep lying forward.

Dzeko is a traditional 10, a target man. Tall, gets the shot off, peels off his defenders, uses his head, holds up play, but his main objective is to score goals, not tiki-taka football for half an hour.
 
BosnianDiamond said:
Dzeko is an underrated passer when playing in a direct style of play, facing the goal, or just laying off balls like he did to Rodwell on Saturday. Think how many great through balls he's passed on counterattacks. His first ever game for City was a superb assist to Yaya for goal agains the Wolves.

Problem is that in City's style of play, he has been asked to come back for the ball like midfielders and play tippy tappy football. Dzeko is not built for that and he shouldn't be judged as a striker for not having the skills of a midfielder.
He isn't underrated at all.
He is just incredibly inconsistent.

What he did on Saturday shouldn't be marked down as a positive from his performance, sadly that is basically all we took out of it. Any striker in the premier league never mine one that cost nearly 30m should be doing that every single week both in the prem and in Europe. Sadly he doesn't.
 
LookIfoundmyKnob said:
pudge said:
BosnianDiamond said:
Dzeko is an underrated passer when playing in a direct style of play, facing the goal, or just laying off balls like he did to Rodwell on Saturday. Think how many great through balls he's passed on counterattacks. His first ever game for City was a superb assist to Yaya for goal agains the Wolves.

Problem is that in City's style of play, he has been asked to come back for the ball like midfielders and play tippy tappy football. Dzeko is not built for that and he shouldn't be judged as a striker for not having the skills of a midfielder.
Tevez drops deep, very rarely does Dzeko have to or even does.

Tevez is a 9 and a half. Meaning he can do a little of both jobs between a centre forward and a midfielder. He's not the best target man because he can't win any air balls, but he's a prolific goalscorer who has adequate passing. That's the only reason he plays so deep.

Just like Francesco Totti, he's a deep lying forward.

Dzeko is a traditional 10, a target man. Tall, gets the shot off, peels off his defenders, uses his head, holds up play, but his main objective is to score goals, not tiki-taka football for half an hour.
Ok, don't see where I argued any of that but cheers for the info
 
CTID101 said:
BosnianDiamond said:
Dzeko is an underrated passer when playing in a direct style of play, facing the goal, or just laying off balls like he did to Rodwell on Saturday. Think how many great through balls he's passed on counterattacks. His first ever game for City was a superb assist to Yaya for goal agains the Wolves.

Problem is that in City's style of play, he has been asked to come back for the ball like midfielders and play tippy tappy football. Dzeko is not built for that and he shouldn't be judged as a striker for not having the skills of a midfielder.
He isn't underrated at all.
He is just incredibly inconsistent.

What he did on Saturday shouldn't be marked down as a positive from his performance, sadly that is basically all we took out of it. Any striker in the premier league never mine one that cost nearly 30m should be doing that every single week both in the prem and in Europe. Sadly he doesn't.

Your right that every striker should perform. But the bigger worry should be placed on Aguero and Tevez, considering that they couldn't provide anything goal scoring wise and Edin will be leaving the Etihad.

If a striker gets 1900 minutes in an entire season and he ends up being the top scorer for a club that tells me that it's not himi that's the problem.
 
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