Edin Dzeko

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All strikers miss "easy" chances. Persie is a "world class" striker and missed an open goal yesterday, Rooney also missed that pass/shot when he rounded the keeper. Aguero's miss in the end of the game was worse than any of Dzekos chances yesterday..

As long as Dzeko plays he will score 2 goals in 3 games, just like he has all of his career. The only things that bothers me about him is his running, it looks like he's jogging all the time, rarely runs in full speed and he should pass the ball better, too often tries a difficult pass
 
Armaan said:
goatinho said:
davymcfc said:
Good display tonight. Doesn't get enough credit for the amount of goals he has scored for us.
probably because he misses the most easiest of chance (for a world class striker)
The problem is everyone is now looking through a microscope at everything Dzeko does. The first mistake he makes and you get the "see I told you he's a donkey" crew out in force. The sad part is that it's not like this for any other player, only Dzeko. It's impossible for a striker to score every time he shoots, every striker misses more than he will score but some expect Dzeko to find the net with every shot. I don't understand why people can't just support him rather than constantly spout shit, is it really that hard?

100% agree. On chances and set-up play he was as good as Aguero last night.
But because he's Deeko, or Aguero is untouchable (I'm not quite sure which), Dzeko gets moaned at.
He's playing well for me. The only issue is service from midfield this season and the same applies to Aguero and Negredo.
 
Dzeko's finishing hasn't been very good this year but the rest of his play has improved significantly this season. I wouldn't have cared less if he never played for us again immediately after the Spurs game at WHL last season but he looks a changed man. I can see him performing much better this season than in previous years with the club.
 
BlueAnorak said:
Armaan said:
goatinho said:
probably because he misses the most easiest of chance (for a world class striker)
The problem is everyone is now looking through a microscope at everything Dzeko does. The first mistake he makes and you get the "see I told you he's a donkey" crew out in force. The sad part is that it's not like this for any other player, only Dzeko. It's impossible for a striker to score every time he shoots, every striker misses more than he will score but some expect Dzeko to find the net with every shot. I don't understand why people can't just support him rather than constantly spout shit, is it really that hard?

100% agree. On chances and set-up play he was as good as Aguero last night.
But because he's Deeko, or Aguero is untouchable (I'm not quite sure which), Dzeko gets moaned at.
He's playing well for me. The only issue is service from midfield this season and the same applies to Aguero and Negredo.

Your insane if you think dzeko played nearly as good as Kun
 
Played well. We have 3 strikers that offer different things, all with good attributes. Dzeko is never gonna be all action like Aguero or as physical as Negredo but Edin gives you goals plain and simple. May not be enough all the time but hes here and hes blue so gonna get behind all 3 of them equally.
 
Proelia said:
BlueAnorak said:
Armaan said:
The problem is everyone is now looking through a microscope at everything Dzeko does. The first mistake he makes and you get the "see I told you he's a donkey" crew out in force. The sad part is that it's not like this for any other player, only Dzeko. It's impossible for a striker to score every time he shoots, every striker misses more than he will score but some expect Dzeko to find the net with every shot. I don't understand why people can't just support him rather than constantly spout shit, is it really that hard?

100% agree. On chances and set-up play he was as good as Aguero last night.
But because he's Deeko, or Aguero is untouchable (I'm not quite sure which), Dzeko gets moaned at.
He's playing well for me. The only issue is service from midfield this season and the same applies to Aguero and Negredo.

Your insane if you think dzeko played nearly as good as Kun

I'd have to agree there, Dzeko's goal was set up by Aguero's fantastic run, (see how he kept on his feet? ) and pass, a good finish from Dzeko still. Aguero's goal was of his own making, and his so called "miss" at the end could've been a penalty if he'd taken a touch and not a shot, as he was fouled by the defender, Negredo's ball dint quite have enough pace n the ball.
Aguero has taken over the Tevez roving role it seems, adding some selfless team play to his repertoire, Jovetic and Dzeko to some extent, take note!
 
Armaan - how can you say only Dzeko attracts the abuse from the " told you he's a donkey " brigade ?
Have you seen the hysterical bile poured out onto Garcia, Lescott , Kolarov , Nasri ( well , until last night , but I'm sure they will revert to type as soon as they see a drop in form)and I see Fernandinho being lined up for scapegoating recently.
 
Bodicoteblue said:
Armaan - how can you say only Dzeko attracts the abuse from the " told you he's a donkey " brigade ?
Have you seen the hysterical bile poured out onto Garcia, Lescott , Kolarov , Nasri ( well , until last night , but I'm sure they will revert to type as soon as they see a drop in form)and I see Fernandinho being lined up for scapegoating recently.

among the strikers he probably means....but I agree with you, almost every player get slagged off as soon as he has a bad moment...that's the way things work and that's how it will always be...

I just hope people try to encourage the players more instead of just waiting for a bad touch, pass, shot or whatever...maybe the boo boys are just a bit louder these days...
 
Bodicoteblue said:
Armaan - how can you say only Dzeko attracts the abuse from the " told you he's a donkey " brigade ?
Have you seen the hysterical bile poured out onto Garcia, Lescott , Kolarov , Nasri ( well , until last night , but I'm sure they will revert to type as soon as they see a drop in form)and I see Fernandinho being lined up for scapegoating recently.


They get slagged on for things they can't control. Bit unfair in my opinion.

Garcia played at CB but isn't a CB by any means. He plays in the mid and from what little action he saw yesterday when he was subbed in, did fairly OK. But most likely, people will only remember the Cardiff game.

Lescott get's abuse because "he's slow", again nothing he can do about that. Also go and look at 90% of the worlds CB, they are all slow. Very rarely do you find a CB who is fast. A hot commodity these days because of the style of play in Europe has changed.

Kolarov get's it because, well to be honest he does make some bone headed mistakes and not the greatest defender but going forward he is superior to Clichy.

Nasri was getting slagged because he didn't look like he brought anything to the table but in reality he has been played out of position because Silva currently occupies it.

In the heat of the moment any slagging on a player that messes up on a play, I think is justifiable. But only for the moment. Most of the abuse heaped on to these players goes on and on and on. Sometimes as I've seen in Edin's case, people will criticize that he doesn't play defense, then when he does play some defense people will complain that he isn't passing well, then when he does pass well people will complain about how little he runs, then people will complain at missed chances and god help him if he makes a goal because people will complain that he should have had 3 or 4 and then people will complain about this and that and this and that.

It's like trying to satisfy Donald Trump.
 
LookIfoundmyKnob said:
Bodicoteblue said:
Armaan - how can you say only Dzeko attracts the abuse from the " told you he's a donkey " brigade ?
Have you seen the hysterical bile poured out onto Garcia, Lescott , Kolarov , Nasri ( well , until last night , but I'm sure they will revert to type as soon as they see a drop in form)and I see Fernandinho being lined up for scapegoating recently.


They get slagged on for things they can't control. Bit unfair in my opinion.

Garcia played at CB but isn't a CB by any means. He plays in the mid and from what little action he saw yesterday when he was subbed in, did fairly OK. But most likely, people will only remember the Cardiff game.

Lescott get's abuse because "he's slow", again nothing he can do about that. Also go and look at 90% of the worlds CB, they are all slow. Very rarely do you find a CB who is fast. A hot commodity these days because of the style of play in Europe has changed.

Kolarov get's it because, well to be honest he does make some bone headed mistakes and not the greatest defender but going forward he is superior to Clichy.

Nasri was getting slagged because he didn't look like he brought anything to the table but in reality he has been played out of position because Silva currently occupies it.

In the heat of the moment any slagging on a player that messes up on a play, I think is justifiable. But only for the moment. Most of the abuse heaped on to these players goes on and on and on. Sometimes as I've seen in Edin's case, people will criticize that he doesn't play defense, then when he does play some defense people will complain that he isn't passing well, then when he does pass well people will complain about how little he runs, then people will complain at missed chances and god help him if he makes a goal because people will complain that he should have had 3 or 4 and then people will complain about this and that and this and that.

It's like trying to satisfy Donald Trump.
Once your/ some minds are made up you dont like/ rate a player then thats it, your shite regardless of your performance.
I judge a player on a game to game performance
 
bosnie87 said:
All strikers miss "easy" chances. Persie is a "world class" striker and missed an open goal yesterday, Rooney also missed that pass/shot when he rounded the keeper. Aguero's miss in the end of the game was worse than any of Dzekos chances yesterday..

As long as Dzeko plays he will score 2 goals in 3 games, just like he has all of his career. The only things that bothers me about him is his running, it looks like he's jogging all the time, rarely runs in full speed and he should pass the ball better, too often tries a difficult pass
He hasn't averaged anywhere near 2 goals every 3 games in his career.
 
Neil McNab said:
bosnie87 said:
All strikers miss "easy" chances. Persie is a "world class" striker and missed an open goal yesterday, Rooney also missed that pass/shot when he rounded the keeper. Aguero's miss in the end of the game was worse than any of Dzekos chances yesterday..

As long as Dzeko plays he will score 2 goals in 3 games, just like he has all of his career. The only things that bothers me about him is his running, it looks like he's jogging all the time, rarely runs in full speed and he should pass the ball better, too often tries a difficult pass
He hasn't averaged anywhere near 2 goals every 3 games in his career.
And the bold part's not true either
 
Neil McNab said:
bosnie87 said:
All strikers miss "easy" chances. Persie is a "world class" striker and missed an open goal yesterday, Rooney also missed that pass/shot when he rounded the keeper. Aguero's miss in the end of the game was worse than any of Dzekos chances yesterday..

As long as Dzeko plays he will score 2 goals in 3 games, just like he has all of his career. The only things that bothers me about him is his running, it looks like he's jogging all the time, rarely runs in full speed and he should pass the ball better, too often tries a difficult pass
He hasn't averaged anywhere near 2 goals every 3 games in his career.
Wolsberg even wolfsbeg or wolfsberg even wolfsburg
 
I think its good to say we have a selction of strikers who actually all paly in different ways which gives us a choice. What we need to remember is we are 3 games in and 1 CL game in and all the players including the strikers need to gell. I feel 6 - 10 games in we will see some good performances from city which will lead to wins. Dzeko can be inconsistent, but thats why its good to have options as it should help the competition between them all which will get them to the best of their game. Also it looks like pelegrini is all about the rotation which is also good, keeps a happy camp and again keeps teams guessing on how we will play.

Any thoughts?
 
pudge said:
Neil McNab said:
bosnie87 said:
All strikers miss "easy" chances. Persie is a "world class" striker and missed an open goal yesterday, Rooney also missed that pass/shot when he rounded the keeper. Aguero's miss in the end of the game was worse than any of Dzekos chances yesterday..

As long as Dzeko plays he will score 2 goals in 3 games, just like he has all of his career. The only things that bothers me about him is his running, it looks like he's jogging all the time, rarely runs in full speed and he should pass the ball better, too often tries a difficult pass
He hasn't averaged anywhere near 2 goals every 3 games in his career.
And the bold part's not true either

I almost fell over laughing at that. Would of been incredible if Aguero rifled that in
 
LookIfoundmyKnob said:
Bodicoteblue said:
Armaan - how can you say only Dzeko attracts the abuse from the " told you he's a donkey " brigade ?
Have you seen the hysterical bile poured out onto Garcia, Lescott , Kolarov , Nasri ( well , until last night , but I'm sure they will revert to type as soon as they see a drop in form)and I see Fernandinho being lined up for scapegoating recently.


They get slagged on for things they can't control. Bit unfair in my opinion.

Garcia played at CB but isn't a CB by any means. He plays in the mid and from what little action he saw yesterday when he was subbed in, did fairly OK. But most likely, people will only remember the Cardiff game.

Lescott get's abuse because "he's slow", again nothing he can do about that. Also go and look at 90% of the worlds CB, they are all slow. Very rarely do you find a CB who is fast. A hot commodity these days because of the style of play in Europe has changed.

Kolarov get's it because, well to be honest he does make some bone headed mistakes and not the greatest defender but going forward he is superior to Clichy.

Nasri was getting slagged because he didn't look like he brought anything to the table but in reality he has been played out of position because Silva currently occupies it.

In the heat of the moment any slagging on a player that messes up on a play, I think is justifiable. But only for the moment. Most of the abuse heaped on to these players goes on and on and on. Sometimes as I've seen in Edin's case, people will criticize that he doesn't play defense, then when he does play some defense people will complain that he isn't passing well, then when he does pass well people will complain about how little he runs, then people will complain at missed chances and god help him if he makes a goal because people will complain that he should have had 3 or 4 and then people will complain about this and that and this and that.

It's like trying to satisfy Donald Trump.

This highlighted, my friend, is a greatest description of Edin's position on this forum (and this thread in particular) of all time.

Simply brilliant. This thread can be effectively locked now.<br /><br />-- Thu Sep 19, 2013 3:23 pm --<br /><br />
BoyBlue_1985 said:
pudge said:
Neil McNab said:
He hasn't averaged anywhere near 2 goals every 3 games in his career.
And the bold part's not true either

I almost fell over laughing at that. Would of been incredible if Aguero rifled that in

Despite the defender's late plunge, Sergio had wide open shot at goal. Easily compared to Dzeko's after he stole the ball on top of penalty area...both sailed well over.

It happens even to the best of them. It's not a video game. Get over it.
 
EaglesFan said:
LookIfoundmyKnob said:
Bodicoteblue said:
Armaan - how can you say only Dzeko attracts the abuse from the " told you he's a donkey " brigade ?
Have you seen the hysterical bile poured out onto Garcia, Lescott , Kolarov , Nasri ( well , until last night , but I'm sure they will revert to type as soon as they see a drop in form)and I see Fernandinho being lined up for scapegoating recently.


They get slagged on for things they can't control. Bit unfair in my opinion.

Garcia played at CB but isn't a CB by any means. He plays in the mid and from what little action he saw yesterday when he was subbed in, did fairly OK. But most likely, people will only remember the Cardiff game.

Lescott get's abuse because "he's slow", again nothing he can do about that. Also go and look at 90% of the worlds CB, they are all slow. Very rarely do you find a CB who is fast. A hot commodity these days because of the style of play in Europe has changed.

Kolarov get's it because, well to be honest he does make some bone headed mistakes and not the greatest defender but going forward he is superior to Clichy.

Nasri was getting slagged because he didn't look like he brought anything to the table but in reality he has been played out of position because Silva currently occupies it.

In the heat of the moment any slagging on a player that messes up on a play, I think is justifiable. But only for the moment. Most of the abuse heaped on to these players goes on and on and on. Sometimes as I've seen in Edin's case, people will criticize that he doesn't play defense, then when he does play some defense people will complain that he isn't passing well, then when he does pass well people will complain about how little he runs, then people will complain at missed chances and god help him if he makes a goal because people will complain that he should have had 3 or 4 and then people will complain about this and that and this and that.

It's like trying to satisfy Donald Trump.

This highlighted, my friend, is a greatest description of Edin's position on this forum (and this thread in particular) of all time.

Simply brilliant. This thread can be effectively locked now.

-- Thu Sep 19, 2013 3:23 pm --

BoyBlue_1985 said:
pudge said:
And the bold part's not true either

I almost fell over laughing at that. Would of been incredible if Aguero rifled that in

Despite the defender's late plunge, Sergio had wide open shot at goal. Easily compared to Dzeko's after he stole the ball on top of penalty area...both sailed well over.

It happens even to the best of them. It's not a video game. Get over it.
Dzeko wouldn't have got within 10 yards of the pass by the beast, so wouldn't have even got a shot off. Agueros desire to get to the ball puts Edin to shame and I'm a fan of his.
The thread will be locked when Edin leaves the club I expect, not when you or one of the other supporters of a player instead of the club say so.
 
EaglesFan said:
LookIfoundmyKnob said:
Bodicoteblue said:
Armaan - how can you say only Dzeko attracts the abuse from the " told you he's a donkey " brigade ?
Have you seen the hysterical bile poured out onto Garcia, Lescott , Kolarov , Nasri ( well , until last night , but I'm sure they will revert to type as soon as they see a drop in form)and I see Fernandinho being lined up for scapegoating recently.


They get slagged on for things they can't control. Bit unfair in my opinion.

Garcia played at CB but isn't a CB by any means. He plays in the mid and from what little action he saw yesterday when he was subbed in, did fairly OK. But most likely, people will only remember the Cardiff game.

Lescott get's abuse because "he's slow", again nothing he can do about that. Also go and look at 90% of the worlds CB, they are all slow. Very rarely do you find a CB who is fast. A hot commodity these days because of the style of play in Europe has changed.

Kolarov get's it because, well to be honest he does make some bone headed mistakes and not the greatest defender but going forward he is superior to Clichy.

Nasri was getting slagged because he didn't look like he brought anything to the table but in reality he has been played out of position because Silva currently occupies it.

In the heat of the moment any slagging on a player that messes up on a play, I think is justifiable. But only for the moment. Most of the abuse heaped on to these players goes on and on and on. Sometimes as I've seen in Edin's case, people will criticize that he doesn't play defense, then when he does play some defense people will complain that he isn't passing well, then when he does pass well people will complain about how little he runs, then people will complain at missed chances and god help him if he makes a goal because people will complain that he should have had 3 or 4 and then people will complain about this and that and this and that.

It's like trying to satisfy Donald Trump.

This highlighted, my friend, is a greatest description of Edin's position on this forum (and this thread in particular) of all time.

Simply brilliant. This thread can be effectively locked now.

-- Thu Sep 19, 2013 3:23 pm --

BoyBlue_1985 said:
pudge said:
And the bold part's not true either

I almost fell over laughing at that. Would of been incredible if Aguero rifled that in

Despite the defender's late plunge, Sergio had wide open shot at goal. Easily compared to Dzeko's after he stole the ball on top of penalty area...both sailed well over.

It happens even to the best of them. It's not a video game. Get over it.

Aguero was running full speed on to a pass is clipped by a defender which knocks his stride off and actually got a shot off. I wouldn't of bet many forwards in history under that set of circumstances to knock it in and most would of fell over for a penalty
Stop talking complete shit
 
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