Edin Dzeko

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Esteban de la Sexface said:
There are City fans who aren't Dzeko fans, there are Dzeko fans who aren't City fans, there are Bosnian's who don't speak much English and English speakers who don't speak English well.

Cluster-Fuck.

City fans - We all know deep down he isn't a City player. I could never take him to my heart anyway.
Bosnians - He is your version of our Robbie Keane. Shit in reality but you think he is great because he is Bosnian and scores the odd goal, and has good stats on Fifa.

Robbie Keane was never shit and Dzeko scores a lot more than the odd goal but agree with everything else.
 
Dzeko - 5 goals in 10 games this season
Negredo - 5 Goals in 14 games
Aguero - 10 Goals in 11 games

It's clear who our best striker is, Dzeko and Negredo are the rotation guys behind him, both are doing fine IMO and both have their part to play over a long season.
 
pominoz said:
You seem to block out the reason he became a "super sub", he would come on late against tired teams and score (fair play to him), then be given a start and play like an asthmatic sloth, back to the bench, come on as a sub, score, be given a start and repeat.

Someone said "It is hard to prove yourself if you are always in and out of the team", he would be fantastic player if he starts several games in a row.
 
JasminBosnia said:
pominoz said:
You seem to block out the reason he became a "super sub", he would come on late against tired teams and score (fair play to him), then be given a start and play like an asthmatic sloth, back to the bench, come on as a sub, score, be given a start and repeat.

Someone said "It is hard to prove yourself if you are always in and out of the team", he would be fantastic player if he starts several games in a row.

He has done many times and hasn't been. Playing a few games in a row don't solve his issues unless there's somehow a correlation between Dzeko's starts, work rate and first touch.
 
JasminBosnia said:
pominoz said:
You seem to block out the reason he became a "super sub", he would come on late against tired teams and score (fair play to him), then be given a start and play like an asthmatic sloth, back to the bench, come on as a sub, score, be given a start and repeat.

Someone said "It is hard to prove yourself if you are always in and out of the team", he would be fantastic player if he starts several games in a row.

We can not afford to start him in a run of games to get his Mojo back, this is the big league, and as a professional athlete it is up to him sort his head out.
 
pominoz said:
JasminBosnia said:
cleavers said:
Totally agree with the above, in fact if he put in the effort this thread would likely be all about what a great player he is, but he doesn't, and that's the problem, we all know he'll get goals if plays, but he needs to show far more effort than he often does, even if he was playing crap, but putting in the effort, he'd get a lot more praise, what's worse, is he does it now and again, especially for his country, so we all know he can do it.


He DID it last year and earned super sub label, nothing more. According to BM "hater club" he was still shit, wank, cnut, donkey, etc. who was lucky to score all those goals. Yes, he cared, worked hard, scored dozen of fantastic goals, but did not earn to start regularly and thread(s) here were endless and deleted for some reason.

Do you remember final vs. Wigan? RM did not play him until we conceded so Edin got 2 fooking minutes.

You seem to block out the reason he became a "super sub", he would come on late against tired teams and score (fair play to him), then be given a start and play like an asthmatic sloth, back to the bench, come on as a sub, score, be given a start and repeat.
Maybe you're right. But last season we struggled to score in the first half as well.

Goals scored in the first half: Dzeko 8, Aguero 4, Tevez 3

So Dzeko had most goals scored in the first half too. Also think about it, he had the least number of starts as well. Quite simply he's a goal machine. It's indisputable. Start or sub he will bang em in. This I believe is why there is a disconnect between Dzeko and those who don't like him playing. He feels he's doing good. Yet he's told he's shit.
 
JasminBosnia said:
cleavers said:
Matty said:
I can maybe accept that confidence will have an impact on his touch, his passing, his finishing etc, but lacking confidence is no excuse for refusing to put In a shift. In fact, if he'd just pull his finger out and put a bit of effort in the would be a hell of a lot less negativity surrounding him. We're a sucker for workrate and effort, we'll let virtually anything go ability wise if the player is clearly giving it his all, if Dzeko was the exact same player, with regards to his technical abilities but chased a few things down, physically battled the centre half a bit more, made it hard work for the opposition and so on then this thread would be about half it's current size.
Totally agree with the above, in fact if he put in the effort this thread would likely be all about what a great player he is, but he doesn't, and that's the problem, we all know he'll get goals if plays, but he needs to show far more effort than he often does, even if he was playing crap, but putting in the effort, he'd get a lot more praise, what's worse, is he does it now and again, especially for his country, so we all know he can do it.


He DID it last year and earned super sub label, nothing more. According to BM "hater club" he was still shit, wank, cnut, donkey, etc. who was lucky to score all those goals. Yes, he cared, worked hard, scored dozen of fantastic goals, but did not earn to start regularly and thread(s) here were endless and deleted for some reason.

Do you remember final vs. Wigan? RM did not play him until we conceded so Edin got 2 fooking minutes.

Wow he did it last year did he? Brilliant. Well done Dzeko for working hard and being committed for half a season for your hundred grand a week.

But then you were only afforded the label of 'super sub' and didnt make the starting line-up in a final? Ah well no wonder you've been sulking ever since and strolling around like a prima donna. I'd be the same as would anyone else on here. Poor love.
 
Lucky Toma said:
JasminBosnia said:
cleavers said:
Totally agree with the above, in fact if he put in the effort this thread would likely be all about what a great player he is, but he doesn't, and that's the problem, we all know he'll get goals if plays, but he needs to show far more effort than he often does, even if he was playing crap, but putting in the effort, he'd get a lot more praise, what's worse, is he does it now and again, especially for his country, so we all know he can do it.


He DID it last year and earned super sub label, nothing more. According to BM "hater club" he was still shit, wank, cnut, donkey, etc. who was lucky to score all those goals. Yes, he cared, worked hard, scored dozen of fantastic goals, but did not earn to start regularly and thread(s) here were endless and deleted for some reason.

Do you remember final vs. Wigan? RM did not play him until we conceded so Edin got 2 fooking minutes.

Wow he did it last year did he? Brilliant. Well done Dzeko for working hard and being committed for half a season for your hundred grand a week.

But then you were only afforded the label of 'super sub' and didnt make the starting line-up in a final? Ah well no wonder you've been sulking ever since and strolling around like a prima donna. I'd be the same as would anyone else on here. Poor love.
He showed the right attitude when he was dropped after Tevez came back from his golfing trip. To enable us to win the league. The attitude didn't just happen. He's been dicked around for 3 years.

Also I don't think he has the attitude problem per se, it's more of an apathy of realizing no matter what he does he will always be the 3rd or 4th choice at City.
 
noise said:
Lucky Toma said:
JasminBosnia said:
He DID it last year and earned super sub label, nothing more. According to BM "hater club" he was still shit, wank, cnut, donkey, etc. who was lucky to score all those goals. Yes, he cared, worked hard, scored dozen of fantastic goals, but did not earn to start regularly and thread(s) here were endless and deleted for some reason.

Do you remember final vs. Wigan? RM did not play him until we conceded so Edin got 2 fooking minutes.

Wow he did it last year did he? Brilliant. Well done Dzeko for working hard and being committed for half a season for your hundred grand a week.

But then you were only afforded the label of 'super sub' and didnt make the starting line-up in a final? Ah well no wonder you've been sulking ever since and strolling around like a prima donna. I'd be the same as would anyone else on here. Poor love.
He showed the right attitude when he was dropped after Tevez came back from his golfing trip. To enable us to win the league. The attitude didn't just happen. He's been dicked around for 3 years.

Also I don't think he has the attitude problem per se, it's more of an apathy of realizing no matter what he does he will always be the 3rd or 4th choice at City.

Then it is time he moved on, but while he is picking up his 100k a week, fucking work for it when asked.
 
pominoz said:
noise said:
Lucky Toma said:
Wow he did it last year did he? Brilliant. Well done Dzeko for working hard and being committed for half a season for your hundred grand a week.

But then you were only afforded the label of 'super sub' and didnt make the starting line-up in a final? Ah well no wonder you've been sulking ever since and strolling around like a prima donna. I'd be the same as would anyone else on here. Poor love.
He showed the right attitude when he was dropped after Tevez came back from his golfing trip. To enable us to win the league. The attitude didn't just happen. He's been dicked around for 3 years.

Also I don't think he has the attitude problem per se, it's more of an apathy of realizing no matter what he does he will always be the 3rd or 4th choice at City.

Then it is time he moved on, but while he is picking up his 100k a week, fucking work for it when asked.
Can't disagree with that.
 
noise said:
He showed the right attitude when he was dropped after Tevez came back from his golfing trip. To enable us to win the league. The attitude didn't just happen. He's been dicked around for 3 years.

Also I don't think he has the attitude problem per se, it's more of an apathy of realizing no matter what he does he will always be the 3rd or 4th choice at City.

Completely agree here. I feel most everybody here would be demoralized if they were in the same situation at their jobs
 
Chikago said:
noise said:
He showed the right attitude when he was dropped after Tevez came back from his golfing trip. To enable us to win the league. The attitude didn't just happen. He's been dicked around for 3 years.

Also I don't think he has the attitude problem per se, it's more of an apathy of realizing no matter what he does he will always be the 3rd or 4th choice at City.

Completely agree here. I feel most everybody here would be demoralized if they were in the same situation at their jobs

If I was being paid £100,000/week+, I certainly wouldn't be demoralized to be 3rd or 4th choice at one of England's top clubs. Plus, Dzeko has had his chances to stake a claim as #2 striker. Remember, Pellegrini preferred him to Negredo at first, but then Negredo took his chance and ran with it.
 
Chikago said:
noise said:
He showed the right attitude when he was dropped after Tevez came back from his golfing trip. To enable us to win the league. The attitude didn't just happen. He's been dicked around for 3 years.

Also I don't think he has the attitude problem per se, it's more of an apathy of realizing no matter what he does he will always be the 3rd or 4th choice at City.

Completely agree here. I feel most everybody here would be demoralized if they were in the same situation at their jobs
I can see his autobiography now;

"Edin Dzeko - The Sad Millionaire"
 
People that do not have money think that money is all they need to be happy. People who have it are not motivated by it. It is only one factor out of many.

Dzeko was named "first choice" only as a psychological ploy to give the appearance that he was given a chance. I think Pellegrini just said that so that he could justify dropping him later after a poor performance or two, which every striker is bound to have. Even after a stellar performance against Newcastle in the first match, Pellegrini refused to say that Dzeko played a great game because he did not score. Next game he scored against Cardiff, then he was replaced by Negredo in the following match after only playing 45 minutes.

He pretty much replaced him with Negredo at halftime who scored the winner in the second half. So Dzeko gets replaced after one half of a bad performance, and becomes the third choice striker almost overnight. That tells me that Pellegrini was never serious about building the attack around him in the first place. You do not replace your first choice striker just because he has one or two bad performances. Now you can rgue that Negredo forms a better partnership with Aguero, but let's not kid ourselves that Negredo wasn't always meant to be the second striker. Pellegrini was just playing mind games and I think he fully intends to sell Dzeko in January or during the summer transfer window.
 
pudge said:
Chikago said:
noise said:
He showed the right attitude when he was dropped after Tevez came back from his golfing trip. To enable us to win the league. The attitude didn't just happen. He's been dicked around for 3 years.

Also I don't think he has the attitude problem per se, it's more of an apathy of realizing no matter what he does he will always be the 3rd or 4th choice at City.

Completely agree here. I feel most everybody here would be demoralized if they were in the same situation at their jobs
I can see his autobiography now;

"Edin Dzeko - The Sad Millionaire"

I don't think he came to City just for money reasons. As best bundesliga striker then player; previous WC qualifications best striker, this season second -behind RVP, managed to pull title with MC same as with Wolfsburg (title after decades & first title in club history where he played major role), last season best MC striker. Played or not, benched or not he deserves respect from some fans or at least more objectivity. He is just an ordinary man trying to give his best and he will continue doing it no matter what.
 
BosnianDiamond said:
People that do not have money think that money is all they need to be happy. People who have it are not motivated by it. It is only one factor out of many.

Dzeko was named "first choice" only as a psychological ploy to give the appearance that he was given a chance. I think Pellegrini just said that so that he could justify dropping him later after a poor performance or two, which every striker is bound to have. Even after a stellar performance against Newcastle in the first match, Pellegrini refused to say that Dzeko played a great game because he did not score. Next game he scored against Cardiff, then he was replaced by Negredo in the following match after only playing 45 minutes.

He pretty much replaced him with Negredo at halftime who scored the winner in the second half. So Dzeko gets replaced after one half of a bad performance, and becomes the third choice striker almost overnight. That tells me that Pellegrini was never serious about building the attack around him in the first place. You do not replace your first choice striker just because he has one or two bad performances. Now you can rgue that Negredo forms a better partnership with Aguero, but let's not kid ourselves that Negredo wasn't always meant to be the second striker. Pellegrini was just playing mind games and I think he fully intends to sell Dzeko in January or during the summer transfer window.
Jesus fucking Christ.


Or could it be that Negredo has took his chances better than Edin?

I think so..
 
TheMaineRoad said:
BosnianDiamond said:
People that do not have money think that money is all they need to be happy. People who have it are not motivated by it. It is only one factor out of many.

Dzeko was named "first choice" only as a psychological ploy to give the appearance that he was given a chance. I think Pellegrini just said that so that he could justify dropping him later after a poor performance or two, which every striker is bound to have. Even after a stellar performance against Newcastle in the first match, Pellegrini refused to say that Dzeko played a great game because he did not score. Next game he scored against Cardiff, then he was replaced by Negredo in the following match after only playing 45 minutes.

He pretty much replaced him with Negredo at halftime who scored the winner in the second half. So Dzeko gets replaced after one half of a bad performance, and becomes the third choice striker almost overnight. That tells me that Pellegrini was never serious about building the attack around him in the first place. You do not replace your first choice striker just because he has one or two bad performances. Now you can rgue that Negredo forms a better partnership with Aguero, but let's not kid ourselves that Negredo wasn't always meant to be the second striker. Pellegrini was just playing mind games and I think he fully intends to sell Dzeko in January or during the summer transfer window.
Jesus fucking Christ.


Or could it be that Negredo has took his chances better than Edin?

I think so..
Combination of both I guess. Negredo had to perform to make it easier for Pellegrini. He has done well, and I have nothing bad to say against Negredo. I was simply tackling the fallacy that Pellegrini ever saw Dzeko as first choice.
 
BosnianDiamond said:
People that do not have money think that money is all they need to be happy. People who have it are not motivated by it. It is only one factor out of many.

Dzeko was named "first choice" only as a psychological ploy to give the appearance that he was given a chance. I think Pellegrini just said that so that he could justify dropping him later after a poor performance or two, which every striker is bound to have. Even after a stellar performance against Newcastle in the first match, Pellegrini refused to say that Dzeko played a great game because he did not score. Next game he scored against Cardiff, then he was replaced by Negredo in the following match after only playing 45 minutes.

He pretty much replaced him with Negredo at halftime who scored the winner in the second half. So Dzeko gets replaced after one half of a bad performance, and becomes the third choice striker almost overnight. That tells me that Pellegrini was never serious about building the attack around him in the first place. You do not replace your first choice striker just because he has one or two bad performances. Now you can rgue that Negredo forms a better partnership with Aguero, but let's not kid ourselves that Negredo wasn't always meant to be the second striker. Pellegrini was just playing mind games and I think he fully intends to sell Dzeko in January or during the summer transfer window.
“I trust Edin Dzeko, it was a pity he didn’t score because he had a lot of chances and he played very well.

“We knew with the ball that he’s a very good player but I think he played very well without the ball tonight. He had some important chances and he deserved to score today.

Not exactly how you phrased it, is it?
 
BosnianDiamond said:
People that do not have money think that money is all they need to be happy. People who have it are not motivated by it. It is only one factor out of many.

Dzeko was named "first choice" only as a psychological ploy to give the appearance that he was given a chance. I think Pellegrini just said that so that he could justify dropping him later after a poor performance or two, which every striker is bound to have. Even after a stellar performance against Newcastle in the first match, Pellegrini refused to say that Dzeko played a great game because he did not score. Next game he scored against Cardiff, then he was replaced by Negredo in the following match after only playing 45 minutes.

He pretty much replaced him with Negredo at halftime who scored the winner in the second half. So Dzeko gets replaced after one half of a bad performance, and becomes the third choice striker almost overnight. That tells me that Pellegrini was never serious about building the attack around him in the first place. You do not replace your first choice striker just because he has one or two bad performancP the second striker. Pellegrini was just playing mind games and I think he fully intends to sell Dzeko in January or during the summer transfer window.

That is so wrong. Dzeko was going to be sold in the summer but Pellegrini wanted him to stay. I don't think Pellegrini expected Negredo and Aguero to be so in form so quickly, Being the man manager Pellegrini is known to be I am sure he will make sure Dzeko gets plenty of chances.

Pellegrini doesn't play mind games.
 
Dzeko was given every chance to secure his place in the starting lineup. His performances and efforts didnt justify him staying in the side.
 
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