Empty seats.. worsening trend?

[Damocles]

I don't have a problem with the atmosphere. It is what it is.

That's fine, but you're in a minority of 1. The vast, vast majority of people here want the atmosphere to improve.

Mainly because it's more enjoyable with a rocking atmosphere and the team plays better when motivated by the stands, and fans like their club to have the best chance of winning.

 

[squirtyflower]

There are supporters who will put the same money into the club but actually attend matches. You cannot have it both ways; you can't claim fans are an essential part of matchday and we desperately need to do something about an atmosphere, then on the other hand say that its no problem at all if fans want to miss 75% of the matches because they put money into the club.

Either fans are in a partnership with the club and share a responsibility, or fans are paying customers and don't share a responsibility.

You can't have your cake and eat it here.

i find this really quite patronising
last year I watched City live over fifty times, there are some will have seen them more, but they are few in number

neither you or anyone else can call judgement on whether i eat my cake or not

My priorities are usually City then City then City
However there are times when even i have to acquiesce and go on holiday or, god forbid, work and may miss a gamen.
And neither you nor Tim have any right to claim a higher moral authority about the impact leaving a seat empty has.

I have to say I'm quite surprised at the attitude of some blues towards fellow blues in this thread, mainly because, I suspect, they are unable to stiffen their gelatinous backbone against piss taking plastics on social media

 

[moomba]

I don't have a problem with the atmosphere. It is what it is.

That's fine, but you're in a minority of 1. The vast, vast majority of people here want the atmosphere to improve.

Mainly because it's more enjoyable with a rocking atmosphere and the team plays better when motivated by the stands, and fans like their club to have the best chance of winning.

Should we start giving negative points to non singers then?

Personally I find football quite enjoyable as it is. If others want to make more noise they can feel free, none of my business really.

 

[Damocles]

There are supporters who will put the same money into the club but actually attend matches. You cannot have it both ways; you can't claim fans are an essential part of matchday and we desperately need to do something about an atmosphere, then on the other hand say that its no problem at all if fans want to miss 75% of the matches because they put money into the club.

Either fans are in a partnership with the club and share a responsibility, or fans are paying customers and don't share a responsibility.

You can't have your cake and eat it here.

i find this really quite patronising
last year I watched City live over fifty times, there are some will have seen them more, but they are few in number

neither you or anyone else can call judgement on whether i eat my cake or not

My priorities are usually City then City then City
However there are times when even i have to acquiesce and go on holiday or, god forbid, work and may miss a gamen.
And neither you nor Tim have any right to claim a higher moral authority about the impact leaving a seat empty has.

I have to say I'm quite surprised at the attitude of some blues towards fellow blues in this thread, mainly because, I suspect, they are unable to stiffen their gelatinous backbone against piss taking plastics on social media

I'm not claiming a higher moral authority, I'm suggesting a scheme whereby anybody who misses over a quarter of home league games then starts to lose loyalty points for every home league game on the same seasoncard that they fail to attend because "I bought a seasoncard, I miss 15 games if I want to" is a selfish attitude that isn't in the best interests of City, and further cements supporters as nothing more than people who buy opera season tickets.

This isn't a dick measuring contest, stop trying to make it into one

 

[moomba]

I'm not claiming a higher moral authority, I'm suggesting a scheme whereby anybody who misses over a quarter of home league games then starts to lose loyalty points for every home league game on the same seasoncard that they fail to attend because "I bought a seasoncard, I miss 15 games if I want to" is a selfish attitude that isn't in the best interests of City, and further cements supporters as nothing more than people who buy opera season tickets.

This isn't a dick measuring contest, stop trying to make it into one

What if they are sick? Caring for children or the elderley? Unable to get out of work? Abroad? Problems with transport?

And if you are going to have exemptions who at the club spends the time assessing all offenders?

 

[Tim of the Oak]

There are supporters who will put the same money into the club but actually attend matches. You cannot have it both ways; you can't claim fans are an essential part of matchday and we desperately need to do something about an atmosphere, then on the other hand say that its no problem at all if fans want to miss 75% of the matches because they put money into the club.

Either fans are in a partnership with the club and share a responsibility, or fans are paying customers and don't share a responsibility.

You can't have your cake and eat it here.

i find this really quite patronising
last year I watched City live over fifty times, there are some will have seen them more, but they are few in number

neither you or anyone else can call judgement on whether i eat my cake or not

My priorities are usually City then City then City
However there are times when even i have to acquiesce and go on holiday or, god forbid, work and may miss a gamen.
And neither you nor Tim have any right to claim a higher moral authority about the impact leaving a seat empty has.

I have to say I'm quite surprised at the attitude of some blues towards fellow blues in this thread, mainly because, I suspect, they are unable to stiffen their gelatinous backbone against piss taking plastics on social media

The rags aren't a factor in my thinking. They rarely are because being preoccupied with the scum during the Swales era really held us back. In addition. I am from Stretford and I am used to giving as good as I get in the banter stakes etc.

Many poster have identified a problem (not the biggest of concerns) with empty seats in parts of the ground. Many of the Bluemooners have come up with solutions that could benefit fans and the club alike. Does anyone really want to see seats bought by a small minority of season card holders left vacant for the majority of the season?

 

[squirtyflower]

There are supporters who will put the same money into the club but actually attend matches. You cannot have it both ways; you can't claim fans are an essential part of matchday and we desperately need to do something about an atmosphere, then on the other hand say that its no problem at all if fans want to miss 75% of the matches because they put money into the club.

Either fans are in a partnership with the club and share a responsibility, or fans are paying customers and don't share a responsibility.

You can't have your cake and eat it here.

i find this really quite patronising
last year I watched City live over fifty times, there are some will have seen them more, but they are few in number

neither you or anyone else can call judgement on whether i eat my cake or not

My priorities are usually City then City then City
However there are times when even i have to acquiesce and go on holiday or, god forbid, work and may miss a gamen.
And neither you nor Tim have any right to claim a higher moral authority about the impact leaving a seat empty has.

I have to say I'm quite surprised at the attitude of some blues towards fellow blues in this thread, mainly because, I suspect, they are unable to stiffen their gelatinous backbone against piss taking plastics on social media

I'm not claiming a higher moral authority, I'm suggesting a scheme whereby anybody who misses over a quarter of home league games then starts to lose loyalty points for every home league game on the same seasoncard that they fail to attend because "I bought a seasoncard, I miss 15 games if I want to" is a selfish attitude that isn't in the best interests of City, and further cements supporters as nothing more than people who buy opera season tickets.

This isn't a dick measuring contest, stop trying to make it into one

A cheap shot and unnecessarily beneath you

the point I was making was that missing a home game here and there is diddly squat compared to the support some give our club, something that you were calling into question with the 'responsibility' that goes with the card schtick

there's a poster on here who has missed a fair chunk of the season here due to illness, should they be dismissed so trivially too?

should we be filling in forms to request permission to miss a game?
you're allowed three no shows and that's your lot?
who determines whether my note is genuine or not, ring my mum?

the thread gets more laughable with every passing post

 

[Tim of the Oak]

I'm not claiming a higher moral authority, I'm suggesting a scheme whereby anybody who misses over a quarter of home league games then starts to lose loyalty points for every home league game on the same seasoncard that they fail to attend because "I bought a seasoncard, I miss 15 games if I want to" is a selfish attitude that isn't in the best interests of City, and further cements supporters as nothing more than people who buy opera season tickets.

This isn't a dick measuring contest, stop trying to make it into one

What if they are sick? Caring for children or the elderley? Unable to get out of work? Abroad? Problems with transport?

And if you are going to have exemptions who at the club spends the time assessing all offenders?

It's amazing how nobody is sick or committed elsewhere on Derby day!

 

[Manchester1894]

I'm not claiming a higher moral authority, I'm suggesting a scheme whereby anybody who misses over a quarter of home league games then starts to lose loyalty points for every home league game on the same seasoncard that they fail to attend because "I bought a seasoncard, I miss 15 games if I want to" is a selfish attitude that isn't in the best interests of City, and further cements supporters as nothing more than people who buy opera season tickets.

This isn't a dick measuring contest, stop trying to make it into one

What if they are sick? Caring for children or the elderley? Unable to get out of work? Abroad? Problems with transport?

And if you are going to have exemptions who at the club spends the time assessing all offenders?

The "minus loyalty points" or loss of some benefit(cityzen points/tickets for City Live etc) might make people work harder to fill their seat.

 

[squirtyflower]

There are supporters who will put the same money into the club but actually attend matches. You cannot have it both ways; you can't claim fans are an essential part of matchday and we desperately need to do something about an atmosphere, then on the other hand say that its no problem at all if fans want to miss 75% of the matches because they put money into the club.

Either fans are in a partnership with the club and share a responsibility, or fans are paying customers and don't share a responsibility.

You can't have your cake and eat it here.

i find this really quite patronising
last year I watched City live over fifty times, there are some will have seen them more, but they are few in number

neither you or anyone else can call judgement on whether i eat my cake or not

My priorities are usually City then City then City
However there are times when even i have to acquiesce and go on holiday or, god forbid, work and may miss a gamen.
And neither you nor Tim have any right to claim a higher moral authority about the impact leaving a seat empty has.

I have to say I'm quite surprised at the attitude of some blues towards fellow blues in this thread, mainly because, I suspect, they are unable to stiffen their gelatinous backbone against piss taking plastics on social media

The rags aren't a factor in my thinking. They rarely are because being preoccupied with the scum during the Swales era really held us back. In addition. I am from Stretford and I am used to giving as good as I get in the banter stakes etc.

Many Some poster have identified a problem (not the biggest of concerns) with empty seats in parts of the ground. Many a small number who are not representative by any stretch of the imagination of the Bluemooners have come up with solutions that could benefit fans and the club alike. Does anyone really want to see seats bought by a small minority of season card holders left vacant for the majority of the season?

so it's a small problem of little concern?