England v Denmark | Euro 2020 Semi Final

[Metalartin]

England deserve to be in the final and have played some really good football so to say it’s luck is bollox but I would say this tournament set up playing all over Europe has definitely benefited certain countries such as England Italy and even Denmark who played all three of there games at home but others such as Wales and Belgium got shafted by having to play all over Europe which you must admit wasn’t fair and if should have been played in one country . As for raheem sterling I think he has been the best player in the euros .

Well we are mostly on the same page after all then. I said myself that I don't think there was enough for a pen there, it's a contact sport still. I would have preferred England to have scored in open play, which I think was coming at the rate the Denmark players were running out of legs and the substitutions we had left. I can understand the frustration on that aspect but to bash Sterling for it, I'm not on board with that. I don't even think he could have stayed on his feet if he wanted to personally(only Sterling knows) but even if he was just knocked off balance and couldn't continue running for the ball, the players are told to go to ground in that situation these days. Should a player need to be knocked off his feet completely, for a foul to be given? Maybe that's what needs looking at first. In my view, the Denmark player wasn't attempting to go for the ball, just getting in Sterling's way long enough for the ball to get away from him because he knew he had the beating of him in a sprint.

Kane or Grealish would be getting praise for it regardless IMO. Southgate could have pushed for a third goal to remove any questions about the penalty too.

 

[hilts]

Mostly agree.

But, if given any contact in the penalty box - then going down - is that diving? Or is going down absolutely called for as a team player?

A dive is a voluntary action, it’s that simple. Why people make it so hard I don’t know. The dark arts are done by every team nowadays. It’s only a problem if it annoys you when others do it but make exceptions for one of your own.

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

Stirling best in Euros.
Has to be a headline there after Brexit.

Or how about;

Devaluation of Sterling in Euros.

Considering he’s playing out of his skin, your papers need some negative on him if you win the bloody thing.

 

[Paul1970]

Well we are mostly on the same page after all then. I said myself that I don't think there was enough for a pen there, it's a contact sport still. I would have preferred England to have scored in open play, which I think was coming at the rate the Denmark players were running out of legs and the substitutions we had left. I can understand the frustration on that aspect but to bash Sterling for it, I'm not on board with that. I don't even think he could have stayed on his feet if he wanted to personally(only Sterling knows) but even if he was just knocked off balance and couldn't continue running for the ball, the players are told to go to ground in that situation these days. Should a player need to be knocked off his feet completely, for a foul to be given? Maybe that's what needs looking at first. In my view, the Denmark player wasn't attempting to go for the ball, just getting in Sterling's way long enough for the ball to get away from him because he knew he had the beating of him in a sprint.

Kane or Grealish would be getting praise for it regardless IMO. Southgate could have pushed for a third goal to remove any questions about the penalty too.

 

[Paul1970]

I wouldn’t bash sterling for that as he thinks it was a penalty the problem is football is all about opinions and everyone sees things differently. Really hope sterling can kick on next e season for us

 

[Metalartin]

@Paul1970 Also, yes, home advantage has been a factor too for some teams, although I don't think that's why Belgium and Wales are out. Didn't Germany have home advantage for all their group games too?

 

[BlueHammer85]

. Southgate could have pushed for a third goal to remove any questions about the penalty too.

Have to just laugh some times. He got it tactically spot on to reach us first major final in 55 years but he should have risked that all by going for a 3rd goal just so certain people don’t get too upset we got a dubious penalty (which wasn’t actually that dubious as it was a clear pen)

 

[ROCKET80]

Was worried for a bit, Denmark had the better of us in the first half, had they got a second we were done for.

We were no great shakes in the second either. Took bringing on Foden to really change it, thought he looked like a class above everyone else on the pitch when he came on, very David Silva in his movement.

Been calling for either Foden/Grealish to play in the middle as we've been too predictable up top. Seeing both of them on the pitch was a joy and during that 15mins of Extra-Time we looked the best team in the tournament.

Gob-smacked by the decision to bring off Grealish. I get his reasoning but it just invited pressure, we were dominating possession and with them having to come at us Foden, Grealish and Sterling would have exploited the space.

I'd put Mancini's Italy as favorites for this and they'll be well prepared for us. Would love to see Southgate start Foden and Grealish.

It was a pen for me, soft by historic standards but in today's game those are generally given, there was enough contact and VAR wasn't going overturn it...kind of like Umpires Call in cricket.

 

[GoatersLeftShin]

It was a penalty, he was clipped then pushed. I thought it was a penalty when I saw it, everyone round me did and the ref agreed and VAR didn't overturn it. You can analyse it as much as you like but it was a penalty.

At the end of the day, England are in the first final of a tournament. Nearly every single person on here has NEVER seen that in their lifetime. Enjoy it, drink it in!

Southgate has proven a lot of people wrong in the Euros, he's been magnificent. We've had KK, Sven and Capello amongst others in the last 20 years and no one - NO ONE - has bettered Southgate in terms of getting to the final or building a team. He's not supposed to be a good manager, but the players like him and he's done something the "great" managers couldn't do.

Honestly, this might never happen again in your life. Enjoy it!! Get some good food in on Sunday, some great beers, let the kids stay up late and bloody well enjoy it. After the last year or so we've had, this is exactly what we need and there's plenty of people who'd passed on this last year who'd love to be watching it. Be thankful you're seeing your country in a final!

Even if we lose, it's to one of our own, one of the greatest ever managers - Mancini. If we lose to anyone, I'll take losing to an absolute legend of a manager and I'll happily take it!

Just ENJOY IT!

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

It was a penalty, he was clipped then pushed. I thought it was a penalty when I saw it, everyone round me did and the ref agreed and VAR didn't overturn it. You can analyse it as much as you like but it was a penalty.

At the end of the day, England are in the first final of a tournament. Nearly every single person on here has NEVER seen that in their lifetime. Enjoy it, drink it in!

Southgate has proven a lot of people wrong in the Euros, he's been magnificent. We've had KK, Sven and Capello amongst others in the last 20 years and no one - NO ONE - has bettered Southgate in terms of getting to the final or building a team. He's not supposed to be a good manager, but the players like him and he's done something the "great" managers couldn't do.

Honestly, this might never happen again in your life. Enjoy it!! Get some good food in on Sunday, some great beers, let the kids stay up late and bloody well enjoy it. After the last year or so we've had, this is exactly what we need and there's plenty of people who'd passed on this last year who'd love to be watching it. Be thankful you're seeing your country in a final!

Even if we lose, it's to one of our own, one of the greatest ever managers - Mancini. If we lose to anyone, I'll take losing to an absolute legend of a manager and I'll happily take it!

Just ENJOY IT!

And win or lose, take it graciously.