England v Denmark | Euro 2020 Semi Final

[Barcon]

Cheers - and I agree with you. Sterling going down in Demark's box - not at all a dive since contact obviously occured.

At the same time, the contact wasn't sufficient to merit a penalty - not even close IMO.

To summarize. It wasn't a dive and there was contact. Therefore the contact was enough to cause Sterling to fall on the ground but that is not a penalty.

 

[Metalartin]

Never a penalty in a million years, he looked for it, got it and we scored and won, end of story.

Cheating/simulation has always gone on in the game (Lee 1 Pen) but it's becoming far too much a problem, time the authorities got a grip on it

Nah, it's time people stop trying to make out if it's not a pen then it must be dive... I agree it wasn't a pen. The point stands though and I've yet to see anyone counter it. If he wanted to look for it, then he could have made it a nailed on pen because the player left his leg out infront of him while he was already traveling in that direction. Go look at the evidence(real live footage), the leg is out in front of him, the ball is past the defender, yet the defenders leg ends up grazing him... Make that make sense to me, if he's "looking for it", as you put it. It doesn't make sense at all because he wasn't looking for it, he was put off balance, and at best decided after that, that he has a right to go down. Where's your criticism of the defender not making an honest attempt to play the ball, focused on the player instead? It's so annoying how quick people are to lay the boot in on Sterling.

 

[BlueMoonAcrossThePond]

To summarize. It wasn't a dive and there was contact. Therefore the contact was enough to cause Sterling to fall on the ground but that is not a penalty?

You're summary is spot on. With any contact whatsoever, however slight, attackers will go down in the penalty box - creating a huge problem for referees.

Should any contact whatsoever in the penalty box be called as a foul?
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Such calls are obviously going to be controversial - for me - Sterling went down too easily - not a penalty - but maybe the ref had second thoughts about the 72nd minute Kane incident and non-penalty call and thus decided to award a penalty here as makeup - who knows?

 

[paulchapo]

Cheers - and I agree with you. Sterling going down in Demark's box - not at all a dive since contact obviously occured.

At the same time, the contact wasn't sufficient to merit a penalty - not even close IMO.

Maybe the Sterling penalty call was a makeup for the Kane incident earlier - who knows?

Anyhow, England were the better side - and advanced.

The contact was enough to halt his progress so it's a penalty.

All irrelevant though now, it was given, we won, end of story. Only in England could reaching our first final in 55 years be overshadowed by people anguishing whether it was deserved or not, or whether the winning goal should have been scored due to the validity of the penalty award.

 

[big gaz]

I think social media is skewing the general feeling about the England team. My son went to a pub in Cardiff to watch the game and the whole place was getting behind England. In other years maybe it wouldn't have happened but after the time we have all had with Covid I think people just want something positive to get behind. It helps that none of the team are unlikable in other years the Rooney scream every time he touched the ball made me turn off the tv. I may be getting sentimental as I get older but the thought of Phil, Raheem, Kyle and John playing a big part of winning Englands first trophy in decades makes me happy and lets be honest whats not to like about players like Rice, Saka, Phillips etc. I said before the tournament I thought you could do something, Wales are out so i'm with you all the way. It blows my mind that people on here want Italy to win (unless your Italian of course). Its one more game why not have a kum ba yah moment and get behind them ;)

I hope you don't have that shithouse attitude when the six nations is on ;-)

 

[big gaz]

off topic and general footie chat, so not that odd.

Hammer why the 4 right backs again ? We only needed one :-)

 

[Metalartin]

Jack came on and set up both goals against Germany. Otherwise he's not had much game time. What Southgate did to him last night was nasty. He wouldn't have done that to any of his Teacher's Pets. Look forward to Jack in the sky blue shirt this season. : )

He didn't set up both goals, he was involved in the first(same as Kane) but that first goal was set up by Sterling, assisted by Shaw and scored by Sterling. I said he does have an assist elsewhere and he's won freekicks(meh) but he's normally creating much more and taking players on more.

I do agree that the game time has a lot to do with it(how they've looked compared to their club form) for Grealish and Foden and being played in different position in Foden's case but Saka to his credit, took his chance the first time he was brought on and has looked better out on the right. Besides Kane being able to play his way into form up top, it's hard to argue with making team selections based on how people are performing currently.

I think Saka has faded in games though, when he'd started and Southgate has been too reluctant to hook him. He could have brought him off for Foden(and switch Sterling onto the right for a bit) at half time and said he planned it. Sancho hasn't even got a look in yet either as a sub. Anyone know why that is?

 

[kalouk]

I hope you don't have that shithouse attitude when the six nations is on ;-)

Jesus, I am offended there's levels to my goodwill! Bottom of the table is too good for England in the six nations!

 

[Lovebitesandeveryfing]

All irrelevant though now, it was given, we won, end of story. Only in England could reaching our first final in 55 years be overshadowed by people anguishing whether it was deserved or not, or whether the winning goal should have been scored due to the validity of the penalty award.

Yes, I think that's true. I can't imagine for one second that such a debate would happen in Spain, Italy, France or Germany. But maybe that's something positive? You can certainly spin it like that.

 

[big gaz]

Jesus, I am offended there's levels to my goodwill! Bottom of the table is too good for England in the six nations!

Is the correct answer :-)