England V Italy, Quarter Final 2012 (merged)

[stonerblue]

Yes great mate let's consign those thousands/millions who died to the dustbin and forget everything about it.

We do need to forget this now and move on. English people and German people have much more that unites us than divides us. We are all Europeans.

Have you or do you live in Germany?

Oh give it a fuckin rest.

 

[Witney Blue]

We do need to forget this now and move on. English people and German people have much more that unites us than divides us. We are all Europeans.

Have you or do you live in Germany?

Oh give it a fuckin rest.

Thanks for the insight

 

[Ray78]

In the 1990 World Cup we only scraped through the group stages and the reason why we got through was because the players told Bobby Robson to change the system to a back 3. All through the early part of the tournament our media was putting a lot of pressure on us.

At the start Robson was playing 4-4-2 when he changed we improved.

Roy plays 4-4-2 and only that. Step forward, improvement?.......I don't think so!

True but Germany play a modified 4-4-2 system.

 

[Josh Blue]

Witney Blue stop being such a dinosaur mate!

 

[intheknow!]

In the 1990 World Cup we only scraped through the group stages and the reason why we got through was because the players told Bobby Robson to change the system to a back 3. All through the early part of the tournament our media was putting a lot of pressure on us.

At the start Robson was playing 4-4-2 when he changed we improved.

Roy plays 4-4-2 and only that. Step forward, improvement?.......I don't think so!

True but Germany play a modified 4-4-2 system.

Emphasis on modified.

 

[Unknown_Genius]

It would have been a great footballing injustice if Italy had lost that. If anymore evidence was needed that England are not a top team, you've just seen it. They're on the level of teams like Denmark and Paraguay, good enough to get out the group, maybe reach a quarter-final, but from there, forget it. Huff and puff, 'bulldog spirit', and passion and commitment can only take you so far. Rooney was like a pub team player, his lack of fitness was just staggering. Its like he's been pigging out on the doritos during his suspension.

 

[Challenger1978]

Yes great mate let's consign those thousands/millions who died to the dustbin and forget everything about it.

We do need to forget this now and move on. English people and German people have much more that unites us than divides us. We are all Europeans.

Exactly. It doesn't mean forget the people who died, it just means stop still mentally (and verbally) using it to put modern day countries in adversarial positions, needlessly.

Is every single one of Hitler Nazi dead yet ?

 

[mancmackem]

I'll throw my observations in...

- I thought the horse had a good game when he came on and has done himself proud this tournament. Come on now, this lad has had a bagload of stick all season from fans across the Premier League (including me). Rooney badly let him down in terms of giving an outlet for Carroll to hit when the ball came down onto his hooves.

- Glen Johnson made some vital interceptions and positioned himself well for the chance. But if you play that way, you really let your covering midfielder down and I bet Milner was fucked even by 55 mins when he was took off. I still don't rate him and think Richards is a better right back, offering more balance for the right hand side.

- Rooney should have been brought off rather than Wellbeck, purely the overhyped name kept him on that pitch tonight. Shows Roy's lack of strength to go against the grain and take a risk with the media.

- Terry, although never taking his coffee black has had a good tournament as a footballer. Partnered well with Lescott impressing too, without them it would have been 3-0 tonight. Let's see if his defence in court is as good as his defensive talents for England. Horrible person.

- Ashley Young was a HUGE negative for the tournament, no impact at all. But as Hodgson does not want to risk the media who could turn against him with a poor World Cup qualifying campaign he will stay in the squad.

- Good experience for the Ox, sounds the type of professional who soaks up advice like a sponge and could become the biggest national favourite since a young Michael Owen.

- Will a 34 year old Steven Gerrard be fit enough for the rigours of another World Cup? Has done a good job as England captain and has said all of the right things, but possibly another tournament is beyond him (especially with the pressure the next couple of club seasons will place upon him, holding up Liverpool but not with a gun).

Think that's it from me.

 

[intheknow!]

Yes great mate let's consign those thousands/millions who died to the dustbin and forget everything about it.

We do need to forget this now and move on. English people and German people have much more that unites us than divides us. We are all Europeans.

Have you or do you live in Germany?

I haven't, so maybe I look through rose tinted eyes.

But it's not just Germany, the whole of Europe should put the past to rest and move forwards as Europeans, IMO. Holding grudges does not ultimately benefit the Continent of Europe. It's why I also cannot stand people who hold grudges against English people for the past.

 

[mancmackem]

Rooney was like a pub team player, his lack of fitness was just staggering. Its like he's been pigging out on the doritos during his suspension.

I wouldn't have taken him, Crouch instead for me. Defoe could have been the option instead of Rooney when wanting to play it more to feet.