bluemoon32
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If France beat Spain, England will win the tournament.
I think Spain though would have too much for England
I think Spain though would have too much for England
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England v Switzerland - Sat 6th July, 17:00 | Euro 2024 Quarter-Final
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Crooked_rain
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David White
It’ll all be over on Saturday. Southgate is a very limited manager with no bollocks.
Blue Maverick
Roll on Friday and give us all something to smile about before Switzerland embarrass us on Saturday
burnley blue mcfc said:
I watched the Swiss take Italy apart, they’ll more than likely do exactly the same to us
burnley blue mcfc
We won’t get the chance to compare ourselves to Spain because the Swiss will beat Us.
chris85mcfc
What a truly awful side and formation he's got out there
Astonished that you can get 3/1 about the Swiss in 90 minutes
abu13
I think we are going to get fucked today.
How have you got this much time on your hands?
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How have you got this much time on your hands?
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If France beat Spain, England will win the tournament.
I think Spain though would have too much for England
I think France would beat England.
They're just as poor as us to watch right now, but i think they have a bit more "know how" to get over the line than England when it comes to the biggest moments.
We might be able to drag Spain into an awful game and win.
Either way, that's putting the cart before t'horse. Netherlands are no mugs and have some players playing well.
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Netherlands aren't a great side but as you say, they have a couple of players that can turn it on and hurt you.I think France would beat England.
They're just as poor as us to watch right now, but i think they have a bit more "know how" to get over the line than England when it comes to the biggest moments.
We might be able to drag Spain into an awful game and win.
Either way, that's putting the cart before t'horse. Netherlands are no mugs and have some players playing well.
I still think England will beat them, maybe on pens again
RACHACE
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For me it was another under par performance.
I can't remember their goal keeper having to do anything of note and we once again rely on a moment of brilliance to avoid going out after going a goal down to a side that we really should be beating fairly comfortably.
Switzerland are a solid team. But they're a team that have never progressed further than the Quarter-Final of a major tournament ever so I don't think it's arrogant to suggest or expect England to win that game.
We did win (eventually) but it still feels that we're dying the slowest death possible, especially after what we've witnessed previously against both Croatia in 2018 and Italy in 2021.
The truth is that only happy clappers are happy with our 'progress' in this tournament whilst the rest of us are fuming that Gareth Southgate has had the opportunity to manage England at 4 different tournaments now and we're arguably as boring to watch as we've ever been, despite having some brilliant players going forward.
The only slither of sympathy I have for Southgate is that the team probably isn't as good as many think. We have some cracking individuals, especially in the more attacking positions but there's a clear imbalance with no left back, no proper DM or creative spark in centre mid either. Not that it'd matter as even if we did have a KDB or Odegaard type, Gareth would probably instruct him to pass sideways, no more than 10ft and don't try to be a maverick by playing balls that can actually hurt the opposition.
There's also a real lack of chemistry. Probably in part due to the ego's in the team. I get the feeling that many of the players don't particularly like each other and are just going through the motions. Phil, Bellingham, TAA, Palmer, Saka all play for different clubs with big ambition. Some have tasted success more than others and it's likely an underlying issue. Senior players like Kane probably aren't arsed and any attempts to create harmony by say someone like Kyle Walker has probably fell on deaf ears.
I imagine Gareth just says things that nobody listens to in this regard.
I can't remember their goal keeper having to do anything of note and we once again rely on a moment of brilliance to avoid going out after going a goal down to a side that we really should be beating fairly comfortably.
Switzerland are a solid team. But they're a team that have never progressed further than the Quarter-Final of a major tournament ever so I don't think it's arrogant to suggest or expect England to win that game.
We did win (eventually) but it still feels that we're dying the slowest death possible, especially after what we've witnessed previously against both Croatia in 2018 and Italy in 2021.
The truth is that only happy clappers are happy with our 'progress' in this tournament whilst the rest of us are fuming that Gareth Southgate has had the opportunity to manage England at 4 different tournaments now and we're arguably as boring to watch as we've ever been, despite having some brilliant players going forward.
The only slither of sympathy I have for Southgate is that the team probably isn't as good as many think. We have some cracking individuals, especially in the more attacking positions but there's a clear imbalance with no left back, no proper DM or creative spark in centre mid either. Not that it'd matter as even if we did have a KDB or Odegaard type, Gareth would probably instruct him to pass sideways, no more than 10ft and don't try to be a maverick by playing balls that can actually hurt the opposition.
There's also a real lack of chemistry. Probably in part due to the ego's in the team. I get the feeling that many of the players don't particularly like each other and are just going through the motions. Phil, Bellingham, TAA, Palmer, Saka all play for different clubs with big ambition. Some have tasted success more than others and it's likely an underlying issue. Senior players like Kane probably aren't arsed and any attempts to create harmony by say someone like Kyle Walker has probably fell on deaf ears.
I imagine Gareth just says things that nobody listens to in this regard.
RACHACE
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I think this is a great post that highlights just how fortunate Gareth has been.The record books will say Southgate got to two semi finals and a final minimum.
WC 2018 (ranking at the time)
Tunisia (14th)
Panama (55th)
Belgium (3rd)
Colombia (16th)
Sweden (23rd)
Croatia (18th)
EURO 2020
Scotland (44th)
Czech Rep (40th)
Croatia (14th)
Germany (12th)
Ukraine (24th)
Denmark (10th)
Italy (7th)
EURO 2024
Serbia (32nd)
Denmark (21st)
Slovenia (57th)
Slovakia (45th)
Switzerland (19th)
Denmark semi final in 2020 is the only time we’ve beaten anyone in the top ten.
The equivalent of this euros run in comparison to last season’s final standings would be City or Arsenal (depending on individual quality alone you think England are the best or second best team in the competition)
Cardiff City
Leicester City
Exeter City
Portsmouth
Burnley
Never known a manager to get an easy run so much and struggle to get through with the talent he has available.
The fact remains that despite touching down on fortune, we've won nothing under him and I've seen nothing that makes me confident that it's going to change in this tournament.
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The laughable bit is it looked like Southgate was only keeping him on for a penalty then takes him off in extra time!Kane needs dropping big time, the greedy lazy not fit **** contributes fuck all for our attacking press, might as well be playing with 10 men
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I thought it was better, particularly against a well organised Swiss team playing with confidence.
However, there are still serious issues to address, which I expect Southgate will ignore.
Kane continually dropping deeper, and then deeper again can't be helping the team. Trippier (not many options) is hindering the balance.
Might as well drop Foden(I thought he played well first half) He appears frustrated and it just isn't happening for him. I don't think Phil and Bellingham can play those roles together and he isn't dropping Bellingham.
The press - well, it's just a bit of a mess. Sometimes we do, often we don't. Some press while others amble around, then it just stops altogether. Foden seems to be the only one who does it regularly and with purpose.
We only seem to be able to play well going forward for a few minutes at a time - there's rarely sustained pressure where you feel the opposition will cave in.
Still, it's something to build on. Some positives, but much bigger improvement required from Gareth if we want to progress and ultimately win it. Feels like we are still being bailed out by rare moments of individual brilliance.
However, there are still serious issues to address, which I expect Southgate will ignore.
Kane continually dropping deeper, and then deeper again can't be helping the team. Trippier (not many options) is hindering the balance.
Might as well drop Foden(I thought he played well first half) He appears frustrated and it just isn't happening for him. I don't think Phil and Bellingham can play those roles together and he isn't dropping Bellingham.
The press - well, it's just a bit of a mess. Sometimes we do, often we don't. Some press while others amble around, then it just stops altogether. Foden seems to be the only one who does it regularly and with purpose.
We only seem to be able to play well going forward for a few minutes at a time - there's rarely sustained pressure where you feel the opposition will cave in.
Still, it's something to build on. Some positives, but much bigger improvement required from Gareth if we want to progress and ultimately win it. Feels like we are still being bailed out by rare moments of individual brilliance.
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I think this is a great post that highlights just how fortunate Gareth has been.
The fact remains that despite touching down on fortune, we've won nothing under him and I've seen nothing that makes me confident that it's going to change in this tournament.
you must be hating every single minute and preying we don't win. weird obsessive negativity.
England are in ANOTHER semi final. great achievement again - Germany, Portugal, Belgium, Italy - and some other very good sides with star players are packed up and out the cup - England are still in and just don't know when to be beaten. Bring on the Dutch!