England vs Iceland - Euro 2016: Last 16 - 27/06/16

[jimmy blue shoes]

I've not been this ashamed of being English since Friday!

 

[Blue Til Death]

Why would you be ashamed to be English, It was nailed on that the England football team would flatter to deceive and ultimately fail once again in a major tournament, they were beaten by the better side on the night, however unpalatable it is, its a fact..! They did not have what it takes at this level, mentally or physically, chuck in a manager who's tactics are akin to a First World War General and hey presto....! Don't let this shambles of a football team cloud your vision about being English...!

 

[Dubai Blue]

The unintended consequence of the ridiculous homegrown rules is that we now have a generation of extremely mediocre English players earning an absolute fortune in the Premier League. This inflates their egos to stratospheric levels, ably assisted by a fawning, sycophantic media who laud anything an Englishman does way ahead of the numerous foreign players who enabled him to do it.

There is not a single one of those England players that I would want City to buy, and that includes Hart and Sterling if they didn't already play for us! Yet apart from Rashford, I imagine every single one of them pockets at least something in the region of 100k a week.

Somehow, a manager has then got to wade through this overwhelming sense of entitlement and get these walking-talking egos to adhere to a strict system. Because, let's face it, that is what international football is all about. It's not about 6 players all trying to be the hero at once, it's about building a coherent system with players who are willing to take everything on board and work selflessly to make it happen.

Of course, it doesn't help when the manager is as piss poor as Roy Hodgson, but I think anyone would struggle with this lot because they're all in it for themselves and seem to think they know better. I really don't know where the England national team goes from here, because until the players themselves accept that they are nowhere near as good as they think they are, we are going to struggle to become a team that is stronger than the sum of its parts.

 

[blueinsa]

The unintended consequence of the ridiculous homegrown rules is that we now have a generation of extremely mediocre English players earning an absolute fortune in the Premier League. This inflates their egos to stratospheric levels, ably assisted by a fawning, sycophantic media who laud anything an Englishman does way ahead of the numerous foreigner players who enabled him to do it.

There is not a single one of those England players that I would want City to buy, and that includes Hart and Sterling if they didn't already play for us! Yet apart from Rashford, I imagine every single one of them pockets at least something in the region of 100k a week.

Somehow, a manager has then got to wade through this overwhelming sense of entitlement and get these walking-talking egos to adhere to a strict system. Because, let's face it, that is what international football is all about. It's not about 6 players all trying to be the hero at once, it's about building a coherent system with players who are willing to take everything on board and work selflessly to make it happen.

Of course, it doesn't help when the manager is as piss poor as Roy Hodgson, but I think anyone would struggle with this lot because they're all in it for themselves and seem to think they know better. I really don't know where the England national team goes from here, because until the players themselves accept that they are nowhere near as good as they think they are, we are going to struggle to become a team that is stronger than the sum of its parts.

Excellent post.

 

[manimanc]

We missed Phil Jones at the back.

 

[Deleted member 58678]

The unintended consequence of the ridiculous homegrown rules is that we now have a generation of extremely mediocre English players earning an absolute fortune in the Premier League. This inflates their egos to stratospheric levels, ably assisted by a fawning, sycophantic media who laud anything an Englishman does way ahead of the numerous foreign players who enabled him to do it.

There is not a single one of those England players that I would want City to buy, and that includes Hart and Sterling if they didn't already play for us! Yet apart from Rashford, I imagine every single one of them pockets at least something in the region of 100k a week.

Somehow, a manager has then got to wade through this overwhelming sense of entitlement and get these walking-talking egos to adhere to a strict system. Because, let's face it, that is what international football is all about. It's not about 6 players all trying to be the hero at once, it's about building a coherent system with players who are willing to take everything on board and work selflessly to make it happen.

Of course, it doesn't help when the manager is as piss poor as Roy Hodgson, but I think anyone would struggle with this lot because they're all in it for themselves and seem to think they know better. I really don't know where the England national team goes from here, because until the players themselves accept that they are nowhere near as good as they think they are, we are going to struggle to become a team that is stronger than the sum of its parts.

You'd be surprised at the wages at other clubs. Hasn't Kane just gone up from about £15k/wk to £45k/wk with his new contract or something?

 

[blueinsa]

You'd be surprised at the wages at other clubs. Hasn't Kane just gone up from about £15k/wk to £45k/wk with his new contract or something?

Not a chance his agent would allow him to sign a contract for that amount given his form and profile.

He will be on top money.

 

[hihosilva]

Why can't our professional footballers kick a simple ball from a free kick or corner into an area that its supposed to go to. IT'S NOT FUCKING DIFFICULT!!!!!

 

[KCblue]

Reckon the group made England look better than what they were. Wales will be shown up against Belgium as well.

Yeah Belgium look like they're starting to click I think that one could be ugly

 

[Marvin]

The unintended consequence of the ridiculous homegrown rules is that we now have a generation of extremely mediocre English players earning an absolute fortune in the Premier League. This inflates their egos to stratospheric levels, ably assisted by a fawning, sycophantic media who laud anything an Englishman does way ahead of the numerous foreign players who enabled him to do it.

There is not a single one of those England players that I would want City to buy, and that includes Hart and Sterling if they didn't already play for us! Yet apart from Rashford, I imagine every single one of them pockets at least something in the region of 100k a week.

Somehow, a manager has then got to wade through this overwhelming sense of entitlement and get these walking-talking egos to adhere to a strict system. Because, let's face it, that is what international football is all about. It's not about 6 players all trying to be the hero at once, it's about building a coherent system with players who are willing to take everything on board and work selflessly to make it happen.

Of course, it doesn't help when the manager is as piss poor as Roy Hodgson, but I think anyone would struggle with this lot because they're all in it for themselves and seem to think they know better. I really don't know where the England national team goes from here, because until the players themselves accept that they are nowhere near as good as they think they are, we are going to struggle to become a team that is stronger than the sum of its parts.

Bashing players and managers isn't going to change anything. I rate Hart and Sterling and for that matter quite a few of the England players who played last night, but there is no midfield apart from an ageing Rooney. I think the England players gave as much effort and wanted it as much as any other team.