England vs Wales - Euro 2016 - 16/06/16

Shit manager I agree, but what teams have looked good this tournament? It seems to have become fashionable to slag England off these days

Poland, Italy and Croatia look good.
Germany, Spain and France will improve.
As seen today England struggle against well organised teams and would find it extremely difficult against NI, Iceland and Albania, never mind the big boys where they will see a lot less of the ball
It was all there to see the other week when England played a very average and aged Portugal
Rooney will get found out in th KO's
 
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Poland, Italy and Croatia look good.
Germany, Spain and France will improve.
As seen today England struggle against well organised teams and would find it extremely difficult against NI, Iceland and Albania, never mind the big boys where they will see a lot less of the ball
It was all there to see the other week when England played a very average and aged Portugal
Rooney will get found out in th KO's
Italy have been the only team so far that I wouldn't want to play. Not saying that England will win by any means but nobody has stood out
 
BBC ratings...although I agree with some...what a load of bollocks that shrek given motm (again)

Joe Hart (goalkeeper) - 4
Shocking attempt to keep out Gareth Bale's free-kick. Poor.

Kyle Walker (right-back) - 7
Excellent attacking option. He has made the right-back spot his own and played his part as the pressure grew.

Gary Cahill (centre-back) - 6
Almost scored a first-half goal and was comfortable when defensive work needed to be done.

Chris Smalling (centre-back) - 6
Had very few uncomfortable moments as Wales failed to gather any real attacking momentum.

Danny Rose (left-back) - 6
Some shaky moments but again was an attacking force after the break as England pressed.

Eric Dier (midfielder) - 7
Very solid presence in midfield. Looks right at home in the defensive holding role. Can improve his passing, though.

Dele Alli (midfielder) - 6
Determined but with little real impact. However, still a class act in the making. Must keep out of trouble.

Adam Lallana (midfielder) - 7
Creative, one of England's better players in that dreadful first half and warmly applauded by the fans when he was substituted.

Wayne Rooney (midfielder) - 8 - man of the match
England's best and most composed player again. Very consistent in the first two games of Euro 2016. Huge influence on the team.

Harry Kane (striker) - 4
Looks tired and off the pace after a long season. Place now surely at risk against Slovakia.

Raheem Sterling (striker) - 4
Missed an early chance and got worse after that with his confidence seemingly low. Hooked at half-time and rightly so.

Substitutes
Jamie Vardy (for Sterling, 45 minutes) - 7

Energetic and got the goal that brought England to life as they finally found some attacking impetus.

Daniel Sturridge (for Kane, 45 minutes) - 8
The match winner. Always willing to try things and has the talent to be a Euro 2016 star.

Marcus Rashford (for Lallana, 73 minutes) - 6
Fearless in his cameo and showed some lovely touches. A golden future.
 
Seriously? England are going to get twatted by the first decent team they meet. This is Hodgson's third tournament in charge and he's still making it up as he goes along. Top the group and beat another wank team like Wales in the next round and this joker will still be leading us into the World Cup in two years' time. The mind boggles.

I'll be surprised if England get smashed by any team in this tournament. The quality of the teams is low.

What teams do you regard as decent?

I don't like Hodgson so I am not going to defend him.
 
Wales? No way, very average team.

I cannot remember saying they were an excellent team. They are tough to beat and unlike almost all other teams, they have a player who has the X factor. That mix, along with a bit of luck, can get you far in a cup competition.
 
BBC ratings...although I agree with some...what a load of bollocks that shrek given motm (again)

Joe Hart (goalkeeper) - 4
Shocking attempt to keep out Gareth Bale's free-kick. Poor.

Kyle Walker (right-back) - 7
Excellent attacking option. He has made the right-back spot his own and played his part as the pressure grew.

Gary Cahill (centre-back) - 6
Almost scored a first-half goal and was comfortable when defensive work needed to be done.

Chris Smalling (centre-back) - 6
Had very few uncomfortable moments as Wales failed to gather any real attacking momentum.

Danny Rose (left-back) - 6
Some shaky moments but again was an attacking force after the break as England pressed.

Eric Dier (midfielder) - 7
Very solid presence in midfield. Looks right at home in the defensive holding role. Can improve his passing, though.

Dele Alli (midfielder) - 6
Determined but with little real impact. However, still a class act in the making. Must keep out of trouble.

Adam Lallana (midfielder) - 7
Creative, one of England's better players in that dreadful first half and warmly applauded by the fans when he was substituted.

Wayne Rooney (midfielder) - 8 - man of the match
England's best and most composed player again. Very consistent in the first two games of Euro 2016. Huge influence on the team.

Harry Kane (striker) - 4
Looks tired and off the pace after a long season. Place now surely at risk against Slovakia.

Raheem Sterling (striker) - 4
Missed an early chance and got worse after that with his confidence seemingly low. Hooked at half-time and rightly so.

Substitutes
Jamie Vardy (for Sterling, 45 minutes) - 7

Energetic and got the goal that brought England to life as they finally found some attacking impetus.

Daniel Sturridge (for Kane, 45 minutes) - 8
The match winner. Always willing to try things and has the talent to be a Euro 2016 star.

Marcus Rashford (for Lallana, 73 minutes) - 6
Fearless in his cameo and showed some lovely touches. A golden future.

Reasonable ratings, although Alli gets off lightly.
 
BBC ratings...although I agree with some...what a load of bollocks that shrek given motm (again)

Joe Hart (goalkeeper) - 4
Shocking attempt to keep out Gareth Bale's free-kick. Poor.

Kyle Walker (right-back) - 7
Excellent attacking option. He has made the right-back spot his own and played his part as the pressure grew.

Gary Cahill (centre-back) - 6
Almost scored a first-half goal and was comfortable when defensive work needed to be done.

Chris Smalling (centre-back) - 6
Had very few uncomfortable moments as Wales failed to gather any real attacking momentum.

Danny Rose (left-back) - 6
Some shaky moments but again was an attacking force after the break as England pressed.

Eric Dier (midfielder) - 7
Very solid presence in midfield. Looks right at home in the defensive holding role. Can improve his passing, though.

Dele Alli (midfielder) - 6
Determined but with little real impact. However, still a class act in the making. Must keep out of trouble.

Adam Lallana (midfielder) - 7
Creative, one of England's better players in that dreadful first half and warmly applauded by the fans when he was substituted.

Wayne Rooney (midfielder) - 8 - man of the match
England's best and most composed player again. Very consistent in the first two games of Euro 2016. Huge influence on the team.

Harry Kane (striker) - 4
Looks tired and off the pace after a long season. Place now surely at risk against Slovakia.

Raheem Sterling (striker) - 4
Missed an early chance and got worse after that with his confidence seemingly low. Hooked at half-time and rightly so.

Substitutes
Jamie Vardy (for Sterling, 45 minutes) - 7

Energetic and got the goal that brought England to life as they finally found some attacking impetus.

Daniel Sturridge (for Kane, 45 minutes) - 8
The match winner. Always willing to try things and has the talent to be a Euro 2016 star.

Marcus Rashford (for Lallana, 73 minutes) - 6
Fearless in his cameo and showed some lovely touches. A golden future.
To be fair, most of these I agree with, sterling and Kane were awful. Although a 4 for hart is harsh for one poor free kick; maybe should be a 5 or 6
 
BBC ratings...although I agree with some...what a load of bollocks that shrek given motm (again)

Joe Hart (goalkeeper) - 4
Shocking attempt to keep out Gareth Bale's free-kick. Poor.

Kyle Walker (right-back) - 7
Excellent attacking option. He has made the right-back spot his own and played his part as the pressure grew.

Gary Cahill (centre-back) - 6
Almost scored a first-half goal and was comfortable when defensive work needed to be done.

Chris Smalling (centre-back) - 6
Had very few uncomfortable moments as Wales failed to gather any real attacking momentum.

Danny Rose (left-back) - 6
Some shaky moments but again was an attacking force after the break as England pressed.

Eric Dier (midfielder) - 7
Very solid presence in midfield. Looks right at home in the defensive holding role. Can improve his passing, though.

Dele Alli (midfielder) - 6
Determined but with little real impact. However, still a class act in the making. Must keep out of trouble.

Adam Lallana (midfielder) - 7
Creative, one of England's better players in that dreadful first half and warmly applauded by the fans when he was substituted.

Wayne Rooney (midfielder) - 8 - man of the match
England's best and most composed player again. Very consistent in the first two games of Euro 2016. Huge influence on the team.

Harry Kane (striker) - 4
Looks tired and off the pace after a long season. Place now surely at risk against Slovakia.

Raheem Sterling (striker) - 4
Missed an early chance and got worse after that with his confidence seemingly low. Hooked at half-time and rightly so.

Substitutes
Jamie Vardy (for Sterling, 45 minutes) - 7

Energetic and got the goal that brought England to life as they finally found some attacking impetus.

Daniel Sturridge (for Kane, 45 minutes) - 8
The match winner. Always willing to try things and has the talent to be a Euro 2016 star.

Marcus Rashford (for Lallana, 73 minutes) - 6
Fearless in his cameo and showed some lovely touches. A golden future.

Walker and Rose should be 1 or 2 points higher, Alli should be a 5, Rooney should be a 7.
 

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