I felt a bit for Barry during that game. The way England were set up in that game (4-4-2) was a recipe for disaster and pace has never been his strength, it's not his style. If I recall, he also wasn't fully fit. If you put Rodri in that England team, the result would have been the same.
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England wasting one of the most talented squads ever assembled on Southgate
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I felt a bit for Barry during that game. The way England were set up in that game (4-4-2) was a recipe for disaster and pace has never been his strength, it's not his style. If I recall, he also wasn't fully fit. If you put Rodri in that England team, the result would have been the same.
I like you as a poster and try to respect your opinions but I don't think you are doing your reputation any favours here. Rice world class? Southgate top manager? One more to make up a trio please.
Rice is absolutely world-class. Just because he's second to Rodri in the Premier League doesn't mean he's not. In terms of his positions and breaking up play there's nobody better in Europe and he still has room to improve further being what, 24?
I felt a bit for Barry during that game. The way England were set up in that game (4-4-2) was a recipe for disaster and pace has never been his strength, it's not his style. If I recall, he also wasn't fully fit. If you put Rodri in that England team, the result would have been the same.
Yeah, I don't blame Barry and him alone. England were terrible all over the pitch that game against a deadly Germany side. But ultimately he only ever had one gear. A good, solid Premier League player, but I'd take Rice over him all day, every day.
That’s because England didn’t play him as a six.
We wasted two extremely good midfielders in Gerrard and Lampard too as we never worked out a system that enhanced them. It also made Scholes retire.
You think that if we had Pep in charge with those 3 that he wouldn’t have found a system or style to use them?
I do.
Yeah, of course I do. But we didn't. Ultimately I don't think Barry ever had a game for England that I can recall where I thought he was anything better than decent.
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Never seen Rice take a game by the scruff of the neck and influence it. Hardly seen him in our half when we've played against him although that isn't his fault. To me, I hardly ever see a forward pass. Just my opinion.
Rice is a decent player but no way is he world class..if you say he's world class because Arselona paid £100m..does that mean Antony at the swamp must be verging on world class too???
Imagine putting Rice and Anthony in the same sentence. This place is absolutely mental at times.
Any Arsenal fan will tell you that Rice has been their best player this season, or one of them. Anthony has been woeful and the majority of United supporters that drive would actually drop him off at Manchester Airport themselves.
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Rice is decent as I said but nowhere near world class...Imagine putting Rice and Anthony in the same sentence. This place is absolutely mental at times.
Any Arsenal fan will tell you that Rice has been their best player this season, or one of them. Anthony has been woeful and the majority of United supporters that drive would actually drop him off at Manchester Airport themselves.
Rice is decent as I said but nowhere near world class...
Clearly he is though.
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If you think that ..then you are entitled to your view..Clearly he is though
Mine is he's decent but nowhere near world class