I think we underplay the effect that musical training has on a fanbase’s sound when we beat ourselves up about atmosphere tbh. It can be a real cheat when it comes to singing. Welsh crowds can sound great because they have a choir culture which means that those that sing project the voice. Scousers have a choir culture too and those trained singers can make the difference in keeping a sound going. Not knocking our singers or saying we should train for matches btw lol, just an observation.Never get the beef with a drummer it's a no brainer for me. When people have drummed before they've been very timid and out of time if it's done it has to be done well!