Yeah, it's unfair to tar all Ultras groups across Europe with the same brush. Some are boring and monotonous and some aren't. Copenhagen were superb when we played them at theirs and I agree that Dortmund are overrated. The Yellow Wall is a magnificent sight but there are other German clubs who arguably have better atmospheres. In Pep's first season, we played Gladbach away and needed a draw to qualify for the last 16. We got the draw which at the same time knocked Gladbach out. In the dying minutes of the game when City were playing keep ball and they pretty much knew they were going out, the whole stadium spontaneously broke into song and it was bouncing. Schalke and Hamburg are other grounds I've been to where it's been as good as, if not better, than Dortmund.