Re: Etihad Campus, Stadium and Collar Site Development Threa
JOGAMIGMOG said:
FanchesterCity said:
JOGAMIGMOG said:
It's in the club's interest to make the stadium as big as possible. Logistically it will be extremely congested getting 80k fans to the ground. Fans will HAVE to plan journeys and get to the ground early-earlier than usual thus providing the ideal opportunity to partake in everything the club can offer. Imagine an expanded City Square with bars the entire length of the stand? The potential to capitalise on increased supporter numbers is, ahem, massive! :)
Absolute nonsense.
It's in the clubs interests to choose the optimal capacity. Not the biggest.
Do you really think if we built a 200K capacity stadium we'd be better off as a result? no. We'd actually be a laughing stock, and will have wasted money.
Unless of course your smiley is suggesting sarcasm in your post! in which case, ignore the above!
No sarcasm intended. And how do you know 80k, for example, isn't the optimum capacity? Maybe it's more.
Even if the ground isn't full (like Barcelona's isn't) every week then the benefits of it being full maybe four times a season have got to be worthwhile. Or does it not work like that?
It definitely doesn't work like that.
It's fine for it not to be full every game, but it needs to be full enough times to make the cost of the expansion and maintenance of it pay for itself.
Consider the two following examples of a club that believes it can get 40K fans.
1) It costs 30 million to add a 15K season ticket holders paying £600 per season, then it will make 9 million a year and pay for itself in just over 3 years
2) It costs 50 million to add a 20K it will make 12 million a year and take just over 4 years to pay for itself, but if you don't sell out all 20K on some games, then it'll take longer still.
So which is the best option? it depends on a) how quickly you want to see a return on your investment and b) how many extra seats you really think you can sell (on average).
Sometimes though, when you're extending (just like a house), the builders might say 'you can have 20K extra seats, for not much more cost' in which case, yes, you're likely to take that option.
In other cases though, they can say 'we can squeeze in 15K extra seats' but if you want to go more than that, it'll cost you a LOT more.
That can be down the structure of the stadium, and the options available... and 'easy expansion' will get you 15K seats, and to get more, you have to have a very different structure that'll cost far more.
City will have done their homework, I'm 100% sure of it.
