Etihad Campus, Stadium and Collar Site Development Thread

[Citizen of Legoland]

The other sensible alternative is to follow the likes of Bordeaux and close the centre of the City to cars - you can’t get anywhere by car so leave the immediate City centre to pedestrians, bikes and trams. Politically difficult and a tough decision but see pictures of Bordeaux City centre 20 years ago and then now and it’s a way better place. No parked cars everywhere, pollution has dropped like a stone and people can move around. The big issue would be how large do you make the pedestrian zone? And convincing people to park up on the outskirts and walk the last 10 or 15 mins -which in many cases would speed up the journey.

Cars should be banned already, but trams and people don’t mix too well either in those mixed use places.

One of the issues in recent years is how they now terminate buses at the earliest entry point to the city which for me is Shudehill. That’s still quite a walk to Piccadilly if I’m going south of Manchester and not easy (or nice through the Gardens) if you’re dragging luggage especially when returning home at night. I used to be able to get right onto Piccadilly Approach by bus.

The constant issues with the tram in the city centre and having no alternative route is ridiculous as currently you can’t even use the tram from Shudehill (at an extra cost too) and with luggage is ill-advised even when operating.

You could ban cars and re-introduce buses crossing the centre like before but it only moves the congestion to the pinch points further out, where bus services again get delayed in snarled up traffic.