Etihad Campus, Stadium and Collar Site Development Thread

With sensible pricing we could easily accommodate a further 30,000 spectators for big matches. An extended North Stand first off followed by enlarged CB and East Stand third tiers. Then whip the roof off and replace it with a closeable one with tv/scoreboard suspended above the centre circle just like the Veltins Arena. Then fill in the corners joining all stands together. We will then have the best stadium in England.
All to be done by August next year. That'll keep Bernstein busy for a bit!
 
blueparrot said:
I'm guessing that's this we are now 9 months on from the consultation starting
http://www.manchester.gov.uk/downloads/download/6702/eastlands_regeneration_framework
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This is a fantastic vision for the future of Manchester with our club at the heart of it. I know it's been in the public domain since February but not one general news outlet has bothered to report it properly. What we are doing is ground-breaking in terms of how a football club can lead regeneration of an entire region. It's a new sustainable model which should be copied by big sports organisations across the world but sadly most of the media is incapable of understanding what is going on. They will still be repeating the "oil money" mantra for years. Meanwhile Manchester will have a new university, new hotels and homes, and a new waterfront playground exending from Great Ancoats Street to Phillips Park. It's great to see our city leading the world again.
 
Interesting Tolmie intimated that our owners investment would slow as they tighten their belts but this appointment would suggest that Bernstein has been appointed to play an influential role in something that’s likely to happen quite quickly - and be of a scale greater than an extension of the N Stand. Development around the stadium on the collar site has been slow and I’d have thought out owners would want to showcase how they can develop and regenerate - they are proud people. I know nothing but I’d expect big things to be announced in 2018. Re the North Stand I wonder if the delay relates to a rethink regarding the design or its interaction with other projects /developments.
 
nmc said:
Interesting Tolmie intimated that our owners investment would slow as they tighten their belts but this appointment would suggest that Bernstein has been appointed to play an influential role in something that’s likely to happen quite quickly - and be of a scale greater than an extension of the N Stand. Development around the stadium on the collar site has been slow and I’d have thought out owners would want to showcase how they can develop and regenerate - they are proud people. I know nothing but I’d expect big things to be announced in 2018. Re the North Stand I wonder if the delay relates to a rethink regarding the design or its interaction with other projects /developments.
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Or waiting until the existing capacity is fully utilised for FA Cup and Champions' League matches?

The Wolves match proves that with sensible pricing it is possible to come near to filling the stadium even for a League Cup tie. Can this be done for the Feyenoord match?
 
JGL07 said:
Or waiting until the existing capacity is fully utilised for FA Cup and Champions' League matches?

The Wolves match proves that with sensible pricing it is possible to come near to filling the stadium even for a League Cup tie. Can this be done for the Feyenoord match?
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I don't understand this mentality, surely you plan for the future because if you wait till the stadium is full every week it is costing you money in lost revenue. I don't believe the business men at the club give a toss about emptyhad jibes like most people on here do.
 
Jordie said:
I don't understand this mentality, surely you plan for the future because if you wait till the stadium is full every week it is costing you money in lost revenue. I don't believe the business men at the club give a toss about emptyhad jibes like most people on here do.
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Correct. Planning for the future, means just that.
Planning for the present would ensure more of those seats that are empty are filled. They are empty because of poor organisation not because they have not or cannot be sold.
 
nmc said:
Interesting Tolmie intimated that our owners investment would slow as they tighten their belts but this appointment would suggest that Bernstein has been appointed to play an influential role in something that’s likely to happen quite quickly - and be of a scale greater than an extension of the N Stand. Development around the stadium on the collar site has been slow and I’d have thought out owners would want to showcase how they can develop and regenerate - they are proud people. I know nothing but I’d expect big things to be announced in 2018. Re the North Stand I wonder if the delay relates to a rethink regarding the design or its interaction with other projects /developments.
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The Abu Dhabi royal family tightening their belts is a difficult concept to imagine. Do they actually wear belts, or is it just a piece of rope nowadays.
 
Jordie said:
I don't understand this mentality, surely you plan for the future because if you wait till the stadium is full every week it is costing you money in lost revenue. I don't believe the business men at the club give a toss about emptyhad jibes like most people on here do.
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Depends whether the money comes from ADUG or AD.
The rewards are some years away so I doubt ADUG would want their yearly business plan upset by a long term investment.
 
Jordie said:
I don't understand this mentality, surely you plan for the future because if you wait till the stadium is full every week it is costing you money in lost revenue. I don't believe the business men at the club give a toss about emptyhad jibes like most people on here do.
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It's not my point but a summary of what the club have been saying.

Keeping the capacity low will not lose money as ticket priced could be hiked. Chelsea and Liverpool have outperfomed City in terms of matchday income despite having lower capacities.

I would have expanded the North and South Stands at the same time and given some spare seats to allow for future expansion of the East and West. City could fill a 61,000 stadium next season provided that the pricing structure was right.

However I am not paying the bills.
 
Im not sure 3rd tier on north stand will happen?, thought we would have heard something certain by now? its been rumoured for last 3yrs with nothing confirmed by the club its even being considered??
 
burnley blue mcfc said:
Im not sure 3rd tier on north stand will happen?, thought we would have heard something certain by now? its been rumoured for last 3yrs with nothing confirmed by the club its even being considered??
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We know it is being considered,it is in the planning permission for the first extension. So the club could decide tomorrow to give it the go ahead without any big fuss. Said this many times but I think when we here some feed back from the conultation started last February there will be news about the extension as well.
 
The problem with extending the North Stand to three tiers is the infrastructure behind it. The whole City Square would need to be demolished to allow the build out. I don’t think they will do it until they are ready to finish off the whole Etihad Campus, including the build out of the surrounding areas, or they get significantly more for the naming rights of the stadium.
 
ChicagoBlue said:
The problem with extending the North Stand to three tiers is the infrastructure behind it. The whole City Square would need to be demolished to allow the build out. I don’t think they will do it until they are ready to finish off the whole Etihad Campus, including the build out of the surrounding areas, or they get significantly more for the naming rights of the stadium.
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They should build that stand and incase city square with it so to see city square you have go through a turnstile.
 
ChicagoBlue said:
The problem with extending the North Stand to three tiers is the infrastructure behind it. The whole City Square would need to be demolished to allow the build out. I don’t think they will do it until they are ready to finish off the whole Etihad Campus, including the build out of the surrounding areas, or they get significantly more for the naming rights of the stadium.
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Nothing in City square is particularly substantial and the stage wouldnt take much moving, as I posted above I think the consultation that is ongoing will have plans for the whole collar sight and campus including the stands, city square and bars, when we see that I'm not sure but wouldnt have thought it would be too long.
 
blueparrot said:
Nothing in City square is particularly substantial and the stage wouldnt take much moving, as I posted above I think the consultation that is ongoing will have plans for the whole collar sight and campus including the stands, city square and bars, when we see that I'm not sure but wouldnt have thought it would be too long.
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The prelim was handed in in Feb of this year, so I wouldn’t expect it to be too long, either.
 
One thing that puzzles me is our official attendances are always 54 thousand but there seems to be less. Please don’t think I am on some kind of windup about empty seats or anything and if the answer is there are a large amount of season ticket holder spending a not inconsiderable amount of money and then attending some of the games then I will accept that. But who are these people? I used to get annoyed in the early 90s if I missed a game after paying £185 for 19 home games!

Anyway onwards and upwards I am enjoying this period of increased honours and attendances and the closer we get to our rivals on both these fronts the better.
 
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