Etihad Campus, Stadium and Collar Site Development Thread

nmc said:
Does that mean they haven’t started ?
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In construction it would mean they haven't started on the first critical path item...

But in the case of my post it means i know with 100% certainty that they are behind schedule.
 
I know times are exciting with the new Arena, but unless Metrolink seriously improve (and I can't see it with just a single line in both directions) the Arena, 8,000 new seats in the North stand and new parking restrictions spell carnage by 2024.

The first clash of a home game and gig will be a nightmare.

I hope I'm wrong, but this is TFGM, who delivered the Droylsden line 13 years behind schedule ! Should have been in place for the 2002 Commonwealth Games.
 
Bluesince1979 said:
This ‘from the horses mouth’ though im sure most will know this info

North stand extension starts as soon as the arena is finished
It will mirror the south stand (no ‘yellow wall’)
It will incorporate hotels and eateries etc and the superstore.

City square and the superstore will go in its current guise but will be re-done.
Superstore within the stand, square pushed further back.

There will be eatery/bar links to the arena from the stadium

Probs a titanic post this but got told on saturday by a man who knows

Oh and city bought that merc garage and that will be hotel/housing
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I kind of thought city square would get redone, it looks a bit tired and the area needs to be undercover. Regarding the club shop, that shouts out a new pub/eatery for fans as it is right in the centre of Mercer Way if done right a roof could be attached so covering the new city square. I thought the club shop could be built into the new stand. If clever design was used it could be amazing there are loads of wasteland around the stadium there are also facilities that could be relocated on the site so making the area more like Wembley. Not copying the Yellow Wall is a massive missed opportunity to improve the atmosphere and have a blue wall at one end of the ground Spurs have done it so are Everton why not Man City

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Northerndave said:
I know times are exciting with the new Arena, but unless Metrolink seriously improve (and I can't see it with just a single line in both directions) the Arena, 8,000 new seats in the North stand and new parking restrictions spell carnage by 2024.

The first clash of a home game and gig will be a nightmare.

I hope I'm wrong, but this is TFGM, who delivered the Droylsden line 13 years behind schedule ! Should have been in place for the 2002 Commonwealth Games.
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It wasn't TFGM's fault. It was the Governments fault because they withdrew the Metrolink big bang funding. After a campaign by the 10 councils of GM, businesses, the local media, and the residents of GM, the Government eventually backtracked and funded a Metrolink little bang. It delayed Metrolink to East Manchester for over a decade.
 
Northerndave said:
I know times are exciting with the new Arena, but unless Metrolink seriously improve (and I can't see it with just a single line in both directions) the Arena, 8,000 new seats in the North stand and new parking restrictions spell carnage by 2024.

The first clash of a home game and gig will be a nightmare.

I hope I'm wrong, but this is TFGM, who delivered the Droylsden line 13 years behind schedule ! Should have been in place for the 2002 Commonwealth Games.
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It’s actually scheduled to close for two years from 2024 if HS2 happens.
 
I was reading some comments recently about Spurs fans being disappointed with the atmosphere of their new place. Maybe a single tier isn’t the be all and end all we thought it was?

At least copying the South Stand means we can keep the family stand in tier 2 with no major disruption which means no further disruption from those who would be moved for a new family stand.

They’ve also seemingly been moving away from the idea of tier one being officially part of the family stand so I wouldn’t be surprised if that was evolved into a further safe standing area.

Tier 3 - New cheaper seats
Tier 2 - Family Stand
Tier 1 - Safe Standing
 
LEXSTARproject said:
I kind of thought city square would get redone, it looks a bit tired and the area needs to be undercover. Regarding the club shop, that shouts out a new pub/eatery for fans as it is right in the centre of Mercer Way if done right a roof could be attached so covering the new city square. I thought the club shop could be built into the new stand. If clever design was used it could be amazing there are loads of wasteland around the stadium there are also facilities that could be relocated on the site so making the area more like Wembley. Not copying the Yellow Wall is a massive missed opportunity to improve the atmosphere and have a blue wall at one end of the ground Spurs have done it so are Everton why not Man City

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possibly the cost of a single tier or the structural engineering side of things make it unrealistic? easier to do from scratch on a new build.
 
HelloCity said:
I was reading some comments recently about Spurs fans being disappointed with the atmosphere of their new place. Maybe a single tier isn’t the be all and end all we thought it was?

At least copying the South Stand means we can keep the family stand in tier 2 with no major disruption which means no further disruption from those who would be moved for a new family stand.

They’ve also seemingly been moving away from the idea of tier one being officially part of the family stand so I wouldn’t be surprised if that was evolved into a further safe standing area.

Tier 3 - New cheaper seats
Tier 2 - Family Stand
Tier 1 - Safe Standing
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Single tier, no thanks, you'd have to be Dougal Haston or Don Whillans, fk that.

Not forgetting Ardwick's Joe Brown.
 
HelloCity said:
I was reading some comments recently about Spurs fans being disappointed with the atmosphere of their new place. Maybe a single tier isn’t the be all and end all we thought it was?

At least copying the South Stand means we can keep the family stand in tier 2 with no major disruption which means no further disruption from those who would be moved for a new family stand.

They’ve also seemingly been moving away from the idea of tier one being officially part of the family stand so I wouldn’t be surprised if that was evolved into a further safe standing area.

Tier 3 - New cheaper seats
Tier 2 - Family Stand
Tier 1 - Safe Standing
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A single tier would be amazing given time. I'm sure Spurs have similar issues where the fans that want to sing are spread all over the ground. West Ham also had their teething issues when they moved. Since their Europa run they seem to be more satisfied with things at the ground now. I'm sure Everton will also take time to create an atmosphere like the one at Goodison.

Initially you have the basic facts that the new stand will be aimed at generating revenue and a single tier doesn't lend itself to mixed pricing. The club will want to have areas that are cheap and others they can charge a bit more for which means three tiers would be advantageous. The South Stand works as well so why change it and ramp up construction costs when they can copy that pattern and create symmetry to the ground? Would the singing fans move to the NS when the away fans are the other side of the ground? Plenty of home support features a home end with away fans tucked to the side. The Kop is the other end to the away fans. The Stretford End is the other side of the ground (ignoring the corner positioning of the away end). It could work. You'd still have a rowdy bunch next to the away fans anyway so it should improve things.

The main issue at City is that the noise isn't retained within the ground very well. The 3rd tier of the SS is much better, but songs are usually started in the 1st tier and it's all a bit disjointed. If you had a single tier with a roof sending noise around the ground it would be epic.
 
supercity88 said:
A single tier would be amazing given time. I'm sure Spurs have similar issues where the fans that want to sing are spread all over the ground. West Ham also had their teething issues when they moved. Since their Europa run they seem to be more satisfied with things at the ground now. I'm sure Everton will also take time to create an atmosphere like the one at Goodison.

Initially you have the basic facts that the new stand will be aimed at generating revenue and a single tier doesn't lend itself to mixed pricing. The club will want to have areas that are cheap and others they can charge a bit more for which means three tiers would be advantageous. The South Stand works as well so why change it and ramp up construction costs when they can copy that pattern and create symmetry to the ground? Would the singing fans move to the NS when the away fans are the other side of the ground? Plenty of home support features a home end with away fans tucked to the side. The Kop is the other end to the away fans. The Stretford End is the other side of the ground (ignoring the corner positioning of the away end). It could work. You'd still have a rowdy bunch next to the away fans anyway so it should improve things.

The main issue at City is that the noise isn't retained within the ground very well. The 3rd tier of the SS is much better, but songs are usually started in the 1st tier and it's all a bit disjointed. If you had a single tier with a roof sending noise around the ground it would be epic.
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The latest info is that the new stand is going to be 3 tiers like the South Stand. I’m not just speculating based on Spurs atmosphere. There’s a post a page or two back about it which is worth looking at.
 
supercity88 said:
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The main issue at City is that the noise isn't retained within the ground very well. The 3rd tier of the SS is much better, but songs are usually started in the 1st tier and it's all a bit disjointed. If you had a single tier with a roof sending noise around the ground it would be epic.
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No surprise about that given the angles of the new roof versus the original. Doing similar with the North Stand will help and (eventually) the East & West Stands. The original roof may have been a clever engineering design but it was/is crap for atmosphere.

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Centurions said:
No surprise about that given the angles of the new roof versus the original. Doing similar with the North Stand will help and (eventually) the East & West Stands. The original roof may have been a clever engineering design but it was/is crap for atmosphere.

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Good point Spurs brought special engineers to get the sound sorted in the stadium. I still think the ULTRA need to have there own section, so joining the Manchester City Ultra you would all be in the same part of the ground
 
HelloCity said:
I was reading some comments recently about Spurs fans being disappointed with the atmosphere of their new place. Maybe a single tier isn’t the be all and end all we thought it was?

At least copying the South Stand means we can keep the family stand in tier 2 with no major disruption which means no further disruption from those who would be moved for a new family stand.

They’ve also seemingly been moving away from the idea of tier one being officially part of the family stand so I wouldn’t be surprised if that was evolved into a further safe standing area.

Tier 3 - New cheaper seats
Tier 2 - Family Stand
Tier 1 - Safe Standing
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you've missed the massive coporate area for hotel guests that cant be arsed watching the game
 
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