Etihad Campus, Stadium and Collar Site Development Thread

[BerkshireBlue]

United do own large parcels of land around OT. They have bought the land up over the years. Apart from an annual income the land generates, it also stops property developers building buildings close to OT. If you remember, United put an objection in against Neville and Hotel football.

I don't know if United own the railway freight terminal land? But I do remember something about them having to share a stadium for a few years if they built a new stadium on the current OT site.

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It's been discussed before and they don't own the land they own leases of the land which is two different things

 

[WARBABY]

Don’t forget Barry Garlow is still paying back his “dodged tax”, someone has got to pay for it and it sure as shit won’t be him, he will be on tour till he drops, I am surprised Lorraine Kelly isn’t on the undercard

So that's why he is working for P & O

 

[Citizen of Legoland]

I really think Premier League clubs should work with local councils to offer free public transport with a match ticket (like in Germany).

No reason City and Andy Burnham can't be leaders in this area with our 'bee network'.

I wouldn’t put it past Burnham to offer free transport weekends to publicise the bee network once all the buses are under its wing but actually you raise a good point. The club already offer a metrolink ticket usable on matchdays, so it should be possible to extend that to buses once they’re all bee networked. I’d be interested in a subsidised day ticket (say, a fiver?), just tram only doesn’t work for me.

I do hope they have something planned.

 

[eastmanc]

The Apollo, shirley?


;-)


Serious question; is that even still being used as a venue? Saw Queen play there in 1979.

Yes it's still used regularly as is the Manchester Academy.

 

[Citizen of Legoland]

Ultimately, we will never have enough capacity on the Metrolink to offer a quick departure from the Etihad.

Shuttle buses could help if they were subsidised. Better walking routes (and information letting people in the queue know it's quicker to walk to Picc than to wait).

The club are hoping that the new facilities will keep fans around the stadium for longer (people will go for a meal or a drink after the game).

We as fans need to adjust too though. If you're going to a major event with the 50/60k people in attendance, obviously there is going to be traffic and queues.

I mentioned earlier in the thread that I walked to Central Park on Saturday and it didn’t seem too bad. Caught the tram back into Victoria then up to Bury. I was surprised I only saw two other fans doing this. Not sure it’s any quicker, and it wouldn’t be nice in the rain, or at night, but I can’t stand queuing.

 

[trueblue1972]

I wouldn’t put it past Burnham to offer free transport weekends to publicise the bee network once all the buses are under its wing but actually you raise a good point. The club already offer a metrolink ticket usable on matchdays, so it should be possible to extend that to buses once they’re all bee networked. I’d be interested in a subsidised day ticket (say, a fiver?), just tram only doesn’t work for me.

I do hope they have something planned.

An any bus day ticket is already a 5er

 

[Citizen of Legoland]

An any bus day ticket is already a 5er

Yes I know, so bus and tram for a fiver on matchdays wouldn’t be too bad.

 

[trueblue1972]

Yes I know, so bus and tram for a fiver on matchdays wouldn’t be too bad.

Ah, sorry, I didn't grasp that what you meant

 

[jrb]

It's been discussed before and they don't own the land they own leases of the land which is two different things

I'm not going to get into a spat with you because I don't know what specific parcels of land United have bought and own around old Trafford. Shown in the map below?

MUEN.

Manchester United owners the Glazer family have been steadily buying up land around Old Trafford since taking ownership of the club in 2005.

At a cost of millions of pounds, the Americans have carried out a sustained and targeted campaign to take control of surrounding real estate, which could provide future development opportunities.

United spent £8.2m buying up land in 2011.

What Man Utd owners the Glazers could do with Old Trafford after buying land

Manchester United owners the Glazers have given themselves the opportunity for major development around Old Trafford.

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk

Can't link the PDF.

Trafford Council.

MANCHESTER UNITED FOOTBALL CLUB PLANNING POLICY VISION

MUFC would welcome an open approach to the allocation of land within this area at this stage.





Unless United are bought by the Qataris they will never match or better the investment Sheikh Mansour has made in City and in Manchester.

Fuck them, anyway.

 

[richards30]

Truly think this is going to look iconic when its done and the scale of it alongside the arena will make a FORTUNE!

 

[VOOMER]

I really think Premier League clubs should work with local councils to offer free public transport with a match ticket (like in Germany).

No reason City and Andy Burnham can't be leaders in this area with our 'bee network'.

Its the central German government and the publicly owned train network that drive that deal.

 

[VOOMER]

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Truly think this is going to look iconic when its done and the scale of it alongside the arena will make a FORTUNE!

Thats just the start, the whole stadium is going to get the same upgrade.

 

[richards30]

Thats just the start, the whole stadium is going to get the same upgrade.

its absolutely mega mate and when its gets the external wrap is going to be the best all round stadium in the world! The next phase of domination has started and the rest wont know whats hit them

 

[Manchester33]

I wouldn’t put it past Burnham to offer free transport weekends to publicise the bee network once all the buses are under its wing but actually you raise a good point. The club already offer a metrolink ticket usable on matchdays, so it should be possible to extend that to buses once they’re all bee networked. I’d be interested in a subsidised day ticket (say, a fiver?), just tram only doesn’t work for me.

I do hope they have something planned.

Exactly the same as me - If I want to get from my house in Urmston to the Etihad without getting dropped off anywhere, I'd have to get a bus to the Trafford Centre (I reckon all in would take around 90 mins there) or a bus to the train station, get to picc and either walk or get another bus - currently it would cost over a tenner for me to get there doing that.

It's miles cheaper and much more convenient for me, my brother and my dad to jump in the car together and pay a tenner for parking.

 

[Northerndave]

Correct.

If Take That were playing 5 concerts at the Etihad stadium, there wouldn't be any piss taking.

It won't be long before the likes of Ed Sheeran and younger artists and bands are signed up by the Coop Live Arena.

The arena it's built yet. Give it a chance before condemning it.

I'm not condemming the arena, just the choice of artists....just not my cup of tea, especially tax dodging take twat.

However, here we are 6 months from opening and still no coherent transport policy is in place. The first clash between the AO and the Etihad will result in Metrolink carnage.

 

[BerkshireBlue]

I'm not going to get into a spat with you because I don't know what specific parcels of land United have bought and own around old Trafford. Shown in the map below?

MUEN.

Manchester United owners the Glazer family have been steadily buying up land around Old Trafford since taking ownership of the club in 2005.

At a cost of millions of pounds, the Americans have carried out a sustained and targeted campaign to take control of surrounding real estate, which could provide future development opportunities.

United spent £8.2m buying up land in 2011.

What Man Utd owners the Glazers could do with Old Trafford after buying land

Manchester United owners the Glazers have given themselves the opportunity for major development around Old Trafford.

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk

Can't link the PDF.

Trafford Council.

MANCHESTER UNITED FOOTBALL CLUB PLANNING POLICY VISION

MUFC would welcome an open approach to the allocation of land within this area at this stage.

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Unless United are bought by the Qataris they will never match or better the investment Sheikh Mansour has made in City and in Manchester.

Fuck them, anyway.

There's no spat to be had. Someone posted the plots of land they've bought and it was proved they've actually only bought leaseholds https://www.placenorthwest.co.uk/security-fears-prompt-man-utd-to-buy-industrial-estate/ The only land pacel that they actually own that is big enough for a stadium is the stadium land itself.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

I'm not condemming the arena, just the choice of artists....just not my cup of tea, especially tax dodging take twat.

However, here we are 6 months from opening and still no coherent transport policy is in place. The first clash between the AO and the Etihad will result in Metrolink carnage.

This is the point. Despite years of advance notice nothing seems to have been put in place. Not even the car parking plans. It seems that we are totally incapable of providing a decent transport network anywhere in the UK (outside London). When it comes to infrastructure the country is a laughing stock.
I am looking forward to my impending trips to Germany and Switzerland to watch City because I know I will be visiting modernised well-run countries (certainly in terms of transport). But at he same time I will be ashamed to see how far ahead of us these countries are. Leipzig is much smaller than Manchester but has a fantastic cheap integrated transport network including buses (till 3.30am); trams, subway, regional, and national trains.

 

[jrb]

I'm not condemming the arena, just the choice of artists....just not my cup of tea, especially tax dodging take twat.

However, here we are 6 months from opening and still no coherent transport policy is in place. The first clash between the AO and the Etihad will result in Metrolink carnage.

My fault. I should have worded it better. I accept your point. I'm certainly not a Take That fan. Groups like Take That, even though they are getting on a bit, will still sell out arenas and stadiums.

 

[Prophet of Doom]

My fault. I should have worded it better. I accept your point. I'm certainly not a Take That fan. Groups like Take That, even though they are getting on a bit, will still sell out arenas and stadiums.

Some bizarre posts on here about the acts being booked for the Co Op.

Like any Arena around the world there will be a big mix of artists. Any artist that can shift 24k tickets will book.

Already they have announced a gig for 78 year old Eric Clapton - and 2 nights by 20 year old Olivia Rodrigo.

No point moaning if they acts aren’t your taste - there will acts of every age and genre booked.

 

[mrtwiceaseason]

My fault. I should have worded it better. I accept your point. I'm certainly not a Take That fan. Groups like Take That, even though they are getting on a bit, will still sell out arenas and stadiums.

This is the point. Despite years of advance notice nothing seems to have been put in place. Not even the car parking plans. It seems that we are totally incapable of providing a decent transport network anywhere in the UK (outside London). When it comes to infrastructure the country is a laughing stock.
I am looking forward to my impending trips to Germany and Switzerland to watch City because I know I will be visiting modernised well-run countries (certainly in terms of transport). But at he same time I will be ashamed to see how far ahead of us these countries are. Leipzig is much smaller than Manchester but has a fantastic cheap integrated transport network including buses (till 3.30am); trams, subway, regional, and national trains.

Who were on strike last time we went