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Can we go the whole hog and get the full band, complete with pipe organ? One for the atmosphere group...nwhn3 said:
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DiscoSteve
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<a class="postlink" href="http://mcfc.co.uk/The-Club/Stadium-Future/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://mcfc.co.uk/The-Club/Stadium-Future/</a>Mancini'sImaginaryCard said:Great pics, where are they from ?DiscoSteve said:Blue-Eyes said:
I think the 'kop' comment is not quite right - it will be only Level 3 that would form 'a kop style stand' - but that in itself will be deeper then the current East/West Level 3 and as deep as South Stand Levels 1 and 2 together
As for the roof slope - I would agree that the north/south roof will be canted towards the pitch as opposed the current formation where the roof slants upwards
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nwhn3 said:
the Bridgwater hall is acoustically tuned. can't see ADUG doing that at the ethihad somehow, ha.
going off track a little, i was talking to an MCC officer recently who worked on the original design brief. he told me it was primarily designed as a football stadium as that was its long term use. will ask him about the roof design next time I see him. is either bollocks or wasn't high up on their considerations.
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In terms of atmosphere and acoustics, I would hazard a guess that the inclination of the roof wasn't even a consideration when moving from Maine road. I seem to remember that at the time we were being told that the atmosphere at the new ground would be so much better due to the bowl, unlike Maine road which had been allowed to be 'developed' with open corners.
With hindsight it is clear that the inclination of the roof behind the goals is such that much of the volume is lost and as a consequence, the atmosphere has suffered.
On the other hand however, could it simply be a lack of enthusiasm from the stands. People quite rightly refer to the hamburg, utd (1-0) and others as examples of how we can create a brilliant atmosphere at the ethihad. Perhaps we should look a little closer to home instead of the mechanics of stadia design for explanations for any perceived lack of atmosphere?
With hindsight it is clear that the inclination of the roof behind the goals is such that much of the volume is lost and as a consequence, the atmosphere has suffered.
On the other hand however, could it simply be a lack of enthusiasm from the stands. People quite rightly refer to the hamburg, utd (1-0) and others as examples of how we can create a brilliant atmosphere at the ethihad. Perhaps we should look a little closer to home instead of the mechanics of stadia design for explanations for any perceived lack of atmosphere?
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Hurrah... and now back to the 1894 forum. I accept the stadium is not perfect (although it's great) but surely it's down to us to create the atmosphere? Anyway, this has no place on this thread (please remove mods).
To me, the most important part right now of this whole thing is what you can deduce from that outside shot that's been quoted a few times above. For example, the things that I notice:
1 - and perhaps most obviously, the new sections of roof do not in any way meet up with the old roof. To me this is a very strong hint that they have plans to do over the east and west stands too, possibly in the near future, as the look of the stadium is a little out of kilter with the ends being much higher than the sides.
2 - The glass frontage on the outside of the new ends. I guess they could just leave it as a goldfish-bowl type deal where you can see into the stand clear as day, and when it's first opened it almost certainly will be, but I'd guess that they will cover over the glass with something. I'd like to think that they will try something fancy, i.e. the Allianz' colour changing walls, but I suspect instead it will just have motifs plastered on, in the style of the current "countdown to the title win" banners they put up last year showing shots of the QPR game. This could still be pretty impressive - the glass frontage is not broken up by external struts or by spirals, so imagine having one or two images that are each 50m tall and 100 wide. It could happen, and it would be visible from a way away, as the south end of course looks over the Ashton New Road.
3 - Follow the edge of the glass frontage around and you see it would intersect the spirals. If they do ever expand the stadium so that it matches all the way around, I think we'll be saying goodbye to the spirals.
4 - On the external view you can see a little rectangle of white just outside and on the end of the glass frontage, and there's another less-visible one perpendicular to the first, going inwards towards the stadium. You can see the same thing on the end of the glass frontage on the north side, up above the leftmost spiral, too. I think these must definitely be considered entrance points. I wonder if, therefore, this means an end to the gates spread all around the edge and instead them being replaced by some kind of high-capacity entrance points on the edge of the ends. This would probably tally up with the story of Wembley-style escalators to get to the third tier.
1 - and perhaps most obviously, the new sections of roof do not in any way meet up with the old roof. To me this is a very strong hint that they have plans to do over the east and west stands too, possibly in the near future, as the look of the stadium is a little out of kilter with the ends being much higher than the sides.
2 - The glass frontage on the outside of the new ends. I guess they could just leave it as a goldfish-bowl type deal where you can see into the stand clear as day, and when it's first opened it almost certainly will be, but I'd guess that they will cover over the glass with something. I'd like to think that they will try something fancy, i.e. the Allianz' colour changing walls, but I suspect instead it will just have motifs plastered on, in the style of the current "countdown to the title win" banners they put up last year showing shots of the QPR game. This could still be pretty impressive - the glass frontage is not broken up by external struts or by spirals, so imagine having one or two images that are each 50m tall and 100 wide. It could happen, and it would be visible from a way away, as the south end of course looks over the Ashton New Road.
3 - Follow the edge of the glass frontage around and you see it would intersect the spirals. If they do ever expand the stadium so that it matches all the way around, I think we'll be saying goodbye to the spirals.
4 - On the external view you can see a little rectangle of white just outside and on the end of the glass frontage, and there's another less-visible one perpendicular to the first, going inwards towards the stadium. You can see the same thing on the end of the glass frontage on the north side, up above the leftmost spiral, too. I think these must definitely be considered entrance points. I wonder if, therefore, this means an end to the gates spread all around the edge and instead them being replaced by some kind of high-capacity entrance points on the edge of the ends. This would probably tally up with the story of Wembley-style escalators to get to the third tier.
danebanksheik
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In the ground on Thursday night and wifi boxes are in all round lower tier and colin bell and east stands 2nd tier.
Looking to be up and running for derby apparently
Amazed how many boxes there are
Looking to be up and running for derby apparently
Amazed how many boxes there are
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Like your thinking Falastur.
Get rid of the bloody spirals n put in escalators. Moved to CB3 this season n it's a long climb up there I can tell you. Pies should be free if you make it to the top.
Get rid of the bloody spirals n put in escalators. Moved to CB3 this season n it's a long climb up there I can tell you. Pies should be free if you make it to the top.
danebanksheik said:In the ground on Friday night and wifi boxes are in all round lower tier and colin bell and east stands 2nd tier.
Looking to be up and running for derby apparently
Amazed how many boxes there are
Many thanks for sharing this news, I've been wondering what the latest was on City Wi-Fi.
I think we can expect to see a techned-up, connected cutting edge stadium which leads me to think that the days of grey concrete hidden behind temporary banners and posters are to end.
Apps, wifi and other stuff are already being invested in so I could see 'gimmicks' such as moving walls of light way beyond what the Allianz does really bringing the stadium structure to life.
What about the idea of being able to tweet pictures that then appear as 100ft images on the stadium 'skin'?
Apps, wifi and other stuff are already being invested in so I could see 'gimmicks' such as moving walls of light way beyond what the Allianz does really bringing the stadium structure to life.
What about the idea of being able to tweet pictures that then appear as 100ft images on the stadium 'skin'?
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