EU referendum

EU referendum

  • In

    Votes: 503 47.9%
  • Out

    Votes: 547 52.1%

  • Total voters
    1,050
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Honesty not the best policy? Best not be straight and up front just carry on misleading either your country by not vetoing Turkey or Turkey by vetoing them?

Why is it ALL politicians would rather lie than tell the truth? As for the point v Syria, meaningless is it not Turkey already have the EU over the preverbial barrel.

That's a bit desperate.
Cameron hasn't misled the country or Turkey - they know how things stand. He hasn't lied, he has expressed opinions, opinions which do not absolutely conflict excepted when reductively simplfiied. Politics isn't simple.
 
i think the opposite, but then again like yourself I'm slightly bias, i want to leave. the majority people i know want to leave. i think its going to be very close. i think most people have alread decided. farage has said some stupid things, but i can't see people deciding to change their vote just based on that. one thing that swayed me towards leave is the fear and threats I've been hearing every day on the news from remainers, i.e , recession, tax rises, threats from other countries. I've had enough of it now.

two things for me are getting control of our democracy/laws back and controlling immigration, that can only happen if we leave.
Have you ever stopped to think the remainers may well be right about this? .... And here's something about the status quo syndrome. It's why the betting odds are trending big to Remain.

http://www.cityam.com/242787/eu-ref...ds-at-last-minute-or-can-the-polls-be-trusted
 
I think the margin of error would be even more pronounced this time around?

Anyone voting out appears to be tarred and pigeon holed as a racist Little Englander?

That is certainly not me, and I could well imagine plenty not admitting to their vote?

Plenty voted Tory, even though it seems the polls were much closer.

No, mainly as economically illiterate and oblivious to fact.
 
Or perhaps a very good strategy. I know someone personally who jumped over a wall without knowing what was on the other side. He has been in a wheelchair ever since (40+ years).

There is nothing wrong with risk taking but I like to understand the potential rewards and the chances of achieving said rewards. In the case of Brexit there is no clarity imho.

I also run the UK operation of a multi-national corp. and I am fearful of the effect the prolonged period of instability that will surely follow any leave vote.
Wouldn't it be wise to go to the wall, look over and appraise yourself of the risks and then make judgement?
 
It's possible, but political suicide for Osborne and possibly the Conservatives as whole if it's true. I therefore doubt it strongly.
The FTT is a fact I'm afraid and has been on the table for a while but a final decision was postponed until "the middle of the year" (i.e. after Thursday).

Osborne's public stance is that we won't accept a purely EU tax but aren't necessarily against a global one. But he knows there's no chance of a global financial transactions tax.

However this can be introduced over our heads and be applied to any financial transactions that fall under its scope. It will wipe out trade in some of the more esoteric financial instruments that London specialises in (and that's according to the EU's own figures).

And even though we're not part of the Eurozone, London controls a huge share of the trade in Euros.
 
Wouldn't it be wise to go to the wall, look over and appraise yourself of the risks and then make judgement?

Yes, and mostly anyone who knows what they're talking about believes it's a long drop with no safety net.
 
That's a bit desperate.
Cameron hasn't misled the country or Turkey - they know how things stand. He hasn't lied, he has expressed opinions, opinions which do not absolutely conflict excepted when reductively simplfiied. Politics isn't simple.
He could have said yes I will veto Turkey, he chose not to.

Now if pressed he will allow Turkey into the EU and be able to say he never said he'd veto their entry, even though that is the impression he's given to secure a remain vote.

The chances of Turkey getting to that point during his tenure are very remote..... or are they?
 
The FTT is a fact I'm afraid and has been on the table for a while but a final decision was postponed until "the middle of the year" (i.e. after Thursday).

Osborne's public stance is that we won't accept a purely EU tax but aren't necessarily against a global one. But he knows there's no chance of a global financial transactions tax.

However this can be introduced over our heads and be applied to any financial transactions that fall under its scope. It will wipe out trade in some of the more esoteric financial instruments that London specialises in (and that's according to the EU's own figures).

And even though we're not part of the Eurozone, London controls a huge share of the trade in Euros.

Trade it might lose if we leave?
 
Have you ever stopped to think the remainers may well be right about this? .... And here's something about the status quo syndrome. It's why the betting odds are trending big to Remain.

http://www.cityam.com/242787/eu-ref...ds-at-last-minute-or-can-the-polls-be-trusted

the betting odds last week were for leave. I've looked at both sides,betting odds change all the time like polls, but I've gone with leave. have you ever stopped to think remainers might be wrong ? or is it just because the word expert is put in front of someones name /
 
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