Honesty not the best policy? Best not be straight and up front just carry on misleading either your country by not vetoing Turkey or Turkey by vetoing them?
Why is it ALL politicians would rather lie than tell the truth? As for the point v Syria, meaningless is it not Turkey already have the EU over the preverbial barrel.
Have you ever stopped to think the remainers may well be right about this? .... And here's something about the status quo syndrome. It's why the betting odds are trending big to Remain.i think the opposite, but then again like yourself I'm slightly bias, i want to leave. the majority people i know want to leave. i think its going to be very close. i think most people have alread decided. farage has said some stupid things, but i can't see people deciding to change their vote just based on that. one thing that swayed me towards leave is the fear and threats I've been hearing every day on the news from remainers, i.e , recession, tax rises, threats from other countries. I've had enough of it now.
two things for me are getting control of our democracy/laws back and controlling immigration, that can only happen if we leave.
I think the margin of error would be even more pronounced this time around?
Anyone voting out appears to be tarred and pigeon holed as a racist Little Englander?
That is certainly not me, and I could well imagine plenty not admitting to their vote?
Plenty voted Tory, even though it seems the polls were much closer.
Wouldn't it be wise to go to the wall, look over and appraise yourself of the risks and then make judgement?Or perhaps a very good strategy. I know someone personally who jumped over a wall without knowing what was on the other side. He has been in a wheelchair ever since (40+ years).
There is nothing wrong with risk taking but I like to understand the potential rewards and the chances of achieving said rewards. In the case of Brexit there is no clarity imho.
I also run the UK operation of a multi-national corp. and I am fearful of the effect the prolonged period of instability that will surely follow any leave vote.
The FTT is a fact I'm afraid and has been on the table for a while but a final decision was postponed until "the middle of the year" (i.e. after Thursday).It's possible, but political suicide for Osborne and possibly the Conservatives as whole if it's true. I therefore doubt it strongly.
Wouldn't it be wise to go to the wall, look over and appraise yourself of the risks and then make judgement?
No, mainly as economically illiterate and oblivious to fact.
He could have said yes I will veto Turkey, he chose not to.That's a bit desperate.
Cameron hasn't misled the country or Turkey - they know how things stand. He hasn't lied, he has expressed opinions, opinions which do not absolutely conflict excepted when reductively simplfiied. Politics isn't simple.
The FTT is a fact I'm afraid and has been on the table for a while but a final decision was postponed until "the middle of the year" (i.e. after Thursday).
Osborne's public stance is that we won't accept a purely EU tax but aren't necessarily against a global one. But he knows there's no chance of a global financial transactions tax.
However this can be introduced over our heads and be applied to any financial transactions that fall under its scope. It will wipe out trade in some of the more esoteric financial instruments that London specialises in (and that's according to the EU's own figures).
And even though we're not part of the Eurozone, London controls a huge share of the trade in Euros.
Have you ever stopped to think the remainers may well be right about this? .... And here's something about the status quo syndrome. It's why the betting odds are trending big to Remain.
http://www.cityam.com/242787/eu-ref...ds-at-last-minute-or-can-the-polls-be-trusted
The FTT is a fact I'm afraid and has been on the table for a while but a final decision was postponed until "the middle of the year" (i.e. after Thursday).
Osborne's public stance is that we won't accept a purely EU tax but aren't necessarily against a global one. But he knows there's no chance of a global financial transactions tax.
However this can be introduced over our heads and be applied to any financial transactions that fall under its scope. It will wipe out trade in some of the more esoteric financial instruments that London specialises in (and that's according to the EU's own figures).
And even though we're not part of the Eurozone, London controls a huge share of the trade in Euros.
You forgot to add IMO, so I've amended it for you, no need to thank me 80)No, mainly as economically illiterate and oblivious to fact IMO.
He could have said yes I will veto Turkey, he chose not to.
Now if pressed he will allow Turkey into the EU and be able to say he never said he'd veto their entry, even though that is the impression he's given to secure a remain vote.
The chances of Turkey getting to that point during his tenure are very remote..... or are they?
Wouldn't it be wise to go to the wall, look over and appraise yourself of the risks and then make judgement?
Like all those economic experts who didn't see 2008 coming even though it was staring them in the face?Yes, and mostly anyone who knows what they're talking about believes it's a long drop with no safety net.
Doesn't have to be does it.German isn't a race.
the betting odds last week were for leave. I've looked at both sides,betting odds change all the time like polls
Like all those economic experts who didn't see 2008 coming even though it was staring them in the face?
Just do some arithmetic. Our trade deficit with the EU is currently running at about £100bn per annum. Let's assume we leave and they stick a 5% tariff on their exports (and we do the same for ours). That will cost us £5bn a year.
Now even on a net basis, we pay the EU about £9bn a year. So we incur about £5bn of extra costs but save ourselves £9bn of EU budget contributions. Some drop!
Hyperbole. I doubt you've read one. Try this:You vs every economist on the planet. I know who I'd rather lisen to.
/not all Muslims are suicide bombers but all suicide bombers are Muslim.Not everyone who votes leave is a racist but every racist will vote leave is the way I see it