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Is it all that's being debated on here?It fucking sure is all they talk about.
Seems to me it's mainly about sovereignty and the ability to Govern ourselves.
Is it all that's being debated on here?It fucking sure is all they talk about.
LOL. Pot. Kettle. Very, very black.You don't half post some weird and hostile shit, swp.
Like all those economic experts who didn't see 2008 coming even though it was staring them in the face?
Just do some arithmetic. Our trade deficit with the EU is currently running at about £100bn per annum. Let's assume we leave and they stick a 5% tariff on their exports (and we do the same for ours). That will cost us £5bn a year.
Now even on a net basis, we pay the EU about £9bn a year. So we incur about £5bn of extra costs but save ourselves £9bn of EU budget contributions. Some drop!
Be prepared to be told by swp that you bring nothing to the table. He is in an even bigger funk than usual.No, that £9bn figure is utterly fallacious. You lot just cannot tell the truth. The UK, directly and indirectly, benefits to the tune of £12bn a year from the relationship.
Membership of the EU significantly increases Britain’s trade with other member-states, while there is little evidence that it reduces trade with countries outside the Union. Britain is home to a larger stock of EU and US foreign direct investment (FDI) than any other EU economy and is the preferred location for investment from other leading markets. Much of this investment would be threatened by a UK exit from the EU.
If Britain were to leave the EU, it would face a difficult dilemma: having to negotiate access to the EU’s single market in exchange for continued adherence to its rules – or losing access in return for regulatory sovereignty that would be almost entirely illusory.
Are you really so fucking myopic that you think immigration is all anyone on the Brexit side cares about?
Where did you copy and paste that from?No, that £9bn figure is utterly fallacious. You lot just cannot tell the truth. The UK, directly and indirectly, benefits to the tune of £12bn a year from the relationship.
Membership of the EU significantly increases Britain’s trade with other member-states, while there is little evidence that it reduces trade with countries outside the Union. Britain is home to a larger stock of EU and US foreign direct investment (FDI) than any other EU economy and is the preferred location for investment from other leading markets. Much of this investment would be threatened by a UK exit from the EU.
If Britain were to leave the EU, it would face a difficult dilemma: having to negotiate access to the EU’s single market in exchange for continued adherence to its rules – or losing access in return for regulatory sovereignty that would be almost entirely illusory.
Rot.
He did not mislead anyone. He didn't answer a hypothetical question, as any answer would have been leapt all over. Scaremongering, Johnson would be proud.
I'm fucking sure it is all they talk about. You only had to see QT last night. Cameron was asked about NOTHING else. And I am listening to business and economists with no axe to grind. Getting angry about it won't help you. And I'm equally convinced that just like the Gove/Johnson/Farage axis, it is you who brings nothing to the debate.
I'm sure the exit polls will be spot on at about 10:00:05 on Thursday! They did with the GE last year.