EU referendum

EU referendum

  • In

    Votes: 503 47.9%

  • Out

    Votes: 547 52.1%
  • Total voters
    1,050
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Paul Lake's Left Knee said:
I didnt say it was, but those betting seem to think its far more likely to be in than out.
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In out , we do the Oakey kokey and we turn around......

I am voting out but think in will win cos people won't be arsed in the end and will just want the status quo. In or out not sure it will make masses of difference to people's everyday life. That's why I get frustrated at the scare stories on both sides.
 
Paul Lake's Left Knee said:
I didnt say it was, but those betting seem to think its far more likely to be in than out.
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It's the betting of a sceptical public methinks. The idea that we are democratic and that this government plays by the rules is reflected in the betting.
The irregularities they pulled in Thanet to keep Farage out is beyond dispute. Electoral fiddling is supposed to be policed by the Electoral Commission but they have no power to prosecute and all they do is report it to the police. The police then turn round and say that they haven't got the expertise to prosecute and everything gets ignored. Look at the 9 million of tax payer's money just spend on propaganda leaflets. Yes we all realise that it was out of order but what can be done about it? Sweet fuck all. That's why the remain camp will win. They play dirty and I'm sure there is more to come.
If I were to have a flutter it would be to stay in even though I'm not sure where I stand on the issue.
The Scots will vote to remain and the 2 million Ex Pats in Spain will vote to remain too because they've had the scare treatment. If on the night it looks too close to call some fiddling of postal votes will probably take place pretty damn sharp. I wouldn't trust this to be a fair vote by any means and the betting reflects that.
 
YPhrunts said:
It's the betting of a sceptical public methinks. The idea that we are democratic and that this government plays by the rules is reflected in the betting.
The irregularities they pulled in Thanet to keep Farage out is beyond dispute. Electoral fiddling is supposed to be policed by the Electoral Commission but they have no power to prosecute and all they do is report it to the police. The police then turn round and say that they haven't got the expertise to prosecute and everything gets ignored. Look at the 9 million of tax payer's money just spend on propaganda leaflets. Yes we all realise that it was out of order but what can be done about it? Sweet fuck all. That's why the remain camp will win. They play dirty and I'm sure there is more to come.
If I were to have a flutter it would be to stay in even though I'm not sure where I stand on the issue.
The Scots will vote to remain and the 2 million Ex Pats in Spain will vote to remain too. If on the night it looks too close to call some fiddling of postal votes will probably take place pretty damn sharp. I wouldn't trust this to be a fair vote by any means and the betting reflects that.
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You might have issues with the tactics of any side in the run up, but if you think actual vote-rigging on any scale goes on in this country, you're deluded.
 
YPhrunts said:
It's the betting of a sceptical public methinks. The idea that we are democratic and that this government plays by the rules is reflected in the betting.
The irregularities they pulled in Thanet to keep Farage out is beyond dispute. Electoral fiddling is supposed to be policed by the Electoral Commission but they have no power to prosecute and all they do is report it to the police. The police then turn round and say that they haven't got the expertise to prosecute and everything gets ignored. Look at the 9 million of tax payer's money just spend on propaganda leaflets. Yes we all realise that it was out of order but what can be done about it? Sweet fuck all. That's why the remain camp will win. They play dirty and I'm sure there is more to come.
If I were to have a flutter it would be to stay in even though I'm not sure where I stand on the issue.
The Scots will vote to remain and the 2 million Ex Pats in Spain will vote to remain too because they've had the scare treatment. If on the night it looks too close to call some fiddling of postal votes will probably take place pretty damn sharp. I wouldn't trust this to be a fair vote by any means and the betting reflects that.
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The betting actually reflects the opinion polls more than anything else, and the odds are about the same as Hilary Clinton to win the presidential race over Donald Trump btw.

In another market you can bet on is a handicap which is over 52.5% to vote in, and the odds of that are still odds on at 1.6 or 8/13, so the betting believes again quite firmly that it wont be close and the out vote will be less than 47.5%, although the amount waged on this market, is far less than the overall vote figures I stated before.
 
Paul Lake's Left Knee said:
Not been on this thread for a while, the poll gap has widened in that time. So I just looked at the odds, staying in is quite a firm odds on on Betfair @ 1.45 (4/9 in old odds) and leaving the EU is at 3.2 (11/5 in old odds)

If it was just England deciding those odds would be a lot closer but Scotland and to a lesser extent Wales and NI are much more pro Europe, thus its more than likely we will remain in the EU.

All you bitter xenophobes better get used to the idea ;-p
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I wouldn't bet on that. I spoke to many people when we went canvassing and as I said at the time there was over 85% of the random audience that said quite emphatically, we want out! This in a very strong Labour area with huge TU alliances, both of which support remain, and despite this they the people most definitely want out. Furthermore when chatting socially it very rare, very rare indeed that anyone supports staying in. As I said at the time, I think call me Dave may have seriously mis-judged the mood of the country.
 
BigJoe#1 said:
I wouldn't bet on that. I spoke to many people when we went canvassing and as I said at the time there was over 85% of the random audience that said quite emphatically, we want out! This in a very strong labour area with huge TU alliances, and despite this they the people most definitely want out. Furthermore when chatting socially it very rare, very rare indeed that anyone supports staying in. As I said at the time, I think call me Dave may have seriously mis-judged the mood of the country.
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I was just giving the odds as they stand, if you think that 85% of the country will vote out, you can make an absolute killing.
 
BigJoe#1 said:
I wouldn't bet on that. I spoke to many people when we went canvassing and as I said at the time there was over 85% of the random audience that said quite emphatically, we want out! This in a very strong Labour area with huge TU alliances, both of which support remain, and despite this they the people most definitely want out. Furthermore when chatting socially it very rare, very rare indeed that anyone supports staying in. As I said at the time, I think call me Dave may have seriously mis-judged the mood of the country.
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I've not come across many Inners as you say and that includes people in my profession that would be helped by an in vote.
 
Chippy_boy said:
You might have issues with the tactics of any side in the run up, but if you think actual vote-rigging on any scale goes on in this country, you're deluded.
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The Government appoint one of their own to investigate electoral fraud and he turns out to be fraudulent in the Expenses scandal and has to pay money back to the tax payer. And you believe in the integrity of this government? You're having a giraffe.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics...n-fraud-whitehall-in-denial-says-eric-pickles
 
Paul Lake's Left Knee said:
I was just giving the odds as they stand, if you think that 85% of the country will vote out, you can make an absolute killing.
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I wouldn't be so presumptuous to make such a claim, I'm sure there are many considerations to be made before doing so, I was merely sharing a personal experience. That said in what I would have considered to be a strong IN vote community I was astounded at the public reaction.... I do think CMD has misjudged the situation.... We shall see..
 
SWP's back said:
We?

You've said you're never returning.

Why don't you stick to £23 packets of fags and taxing back packers at 32%.
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Happy that those are stuck to to be honest can't see an issue with either , I will always be who I am regardless of where I move and will always have a huge interest in a place I was born, brought up, family and friends live and I am a citizen of as are my kids .
 
Its interesting I have come across very few inners, and am hearing much the same from many others. I cannot imagine that if we vote to stay in it will be by much of a majority. I suspect there is alot of misinformation courtesy of Daves impartial buddies in the press. I think Dave and his fellow pro remain cohorts are shitting bricks as are the faceless rulers in Brussels. We vote out and it will accelerate the collapse of the EU which is a certainty anyway.
 
The betting odds reflect the fact that there are still a large number of "undecideds" and that "undecideds" usually vote heavily for the status quo.
 
I think Bluemoon is very hip in the sense we are one of the few forums who have voted out and stuck to it from the start.

Many bandwagon hoppers are starting to realise voting out is the right way but proud we are a market leader on this.
 
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