EU referendum

EU referendum

  • In

    Votes: 503 47.9%
  • Out

    Votes: 547 52.1%

  • Total voters
    1,050
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I find that hard to believe EB. At least here in Ireland I don't see the EU directing the government to redistribute wealth from Dublin to other areas. I don't think they give two hoots about the common people. Only the MEP from the area cares and he/she is most likely lost in the crowd.

The European Regional Development Fund....

http://www.europeanfundingne.co.uk/european-regional-development-fund-erdf.html

https://www.gov.uk/government/policies/management-of-the-european-regional-development-fund

And for Ireland....

https://www.enterprise-ireland.com/en/funding-supports/ERDF/
 
While certain people like throwing statistics with big scary numbers here is a nice small one that they dodge, the % of UK companies that currently trade with the EU is 5%.

If unfettered migration brings increased productivity, Growth, and tax revenue then why are countries like Greece not over the f*cking moon at their good luck at having first dibs, just why is it that Hungary and Austria have closed their border while Poland is refusing point blank to take any, or those silly Swedes trying to kick 80,000 out ( Interesting fact, 75% of the prison population in Sweden are migrant ).
 
While certain people like throwing statistics with big scary numbers here is a nice small one that they dodge, the % of UK companies that currently trade with the EU is 5%.

If unfettered migration brings increased productivity, Growth, and tax revenue then why are countries like Greece not over the f*cking moon at their good luck at having first dibs, just why is it that Hungary and Austria have closed their border while Poland is refusing point blank to take any, or those silly Swedes trying to kick 80,000 out ( Interesting fact, 75% of the prison population in Sweden are migrant ).

http://www.prisonstudies.org/country/sweden
 
While certain people like throwing statistics with big scary numbers here is a nice small one that they dodge, the % of UK companies that currently trade with the EU is 5%.

A lot of that is to do with the fact we're an island, we're obsessed with short termism, won't learn a foreign language, we've a shrunken manufacturing base and our banks are more interested in trading than lending to small and medium sized businesses.

If unfettered migration brings increased productivity, Growth, and tax revenue then why are countries like Greece not over the f*cking moon at their good luck at having first dibs, just why is it that Hungary and Austria have closed their border while Poland is refusing point blank to take any, or those silly Swedes trying to kick 80,000 out ( Interesting fact, 75% of the prison population in Sweden are migrant ).

That's because they are refugees and Greece is broke. Refugees and Polish plumbers not the same thing you know.
 

Very interesting that its 30.7% then ( 2014 ) even at a time when migrants were a much smaller % of population, still it shows the effect the current flood is having.

That's because they are refugees and Greece is broke. Refugees and Polish plumbers not the same thing you know.

So then your saying that its NOT numbers but selective choice thats needed, exactly what the whole f*cking debate has been about ;0)
 
Very interesting that its 30.7% then ( 2014 ) even at a time when migrants were a much smaller % of population, still it shows the effect the current flood is having.



So then your saying that its NOT numbers but selective choice thats needed, exactly what the whole f*cking debate has been about ;0)

% of Foreign born in UK prison (Sep 2015) = 12.7%
% of Foreign born population of the UK (2014) = 13.1%
 
% of Foreign born in UK prison (Sep 2015) = 12.7%
% of Foreign born population of the UK (2014) = 13.1%
Not sure if I should be happy that the prison population reflects the general population or concerned that over 13% of the country are not from here. To be safe I'll go the PC route and be happy about it all I think
 
Out of interest would you always stick by this argument ... What if millions of immigrants arrive in our country over the next few years - are you saying no amount of migrants would put a strain on our country ? Will you just stick your fingers in your ears and blame the old age, alcoholic, obese people. Everyone but migrants ?
No I wouldn't but I think it's time that some responsibility was taken by the overall population for the problems of the country rather than trying to blame a small % of immigrants or the EU. It's time that people realised if you want to live to 100, work for less than half your life and have a health system that supports that and if you want decent universal education then sacrifices have to be a made and people have to pay. Too much short termism, too much blaming other people, too much consumerism and not enough reality and perspective now.

You can stop immigration but if the country was not to make the changes to fill the productivity and fiscal gap that would bring them nothing will be done.

It is easier to blame immigrants for NHS than blame the ageing population or our eating and drinking habits or big pharma , as all of those groups have major power of lobby and they are all groups much closer to home.
 
No I wouldn't but I think it's time that some responsibility was taken by the overall population for the problems of the country rather than trying to blame a small % of immigrants or the EU. It's time that people realised if you want to live to 100, work for less than half your life and have a health system that supports that and if you want decent universal education then sacrifices have to be a made and people have to pay. Too much short termism, too much blaming other people, too much consumerism and not enough reality and perspective now.

You can stop immigration but if the country was not to make the changes to fill the productivity and fiscal gap that would bring them nothing will be done.

It is easier to blame immigrants for NHS than blame the ageing population or our eating and drinking habits or big pharma , as all of those groups have major power of lobby and they are all groups much closer to home.

Immigration is keeping our NHS alive!

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-s...or-european-country-study-finds-a6787906.html
 
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