Ancient Citizen
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Again, 'Bringing in more than they take out' only applies to skilled workers. The EU forces us to accept anyone from within it.
Yep, they bring in more than they take out!.
If you want more details Then google to try to find what your looking for. Create a spread sheet with all the bits your want to try to cost and search for each bit to see if you can make a total. I've done it plenty of times in the past when discussing things on forums.
Welfare isn't the only way you take out of the system though. There's health, education, transport etc. that they should also be contributing to through taxes.
I think I've seen figures around saying you become a net contributor at around a £30-35k salary. I'd like to know what proportion of EU immigrants aren't at that benchmark.
Again, 'Bringing in more than they take out' only applies to skilled workers. The EU forces us to accept anyone from within it.
I think I've seen figures around saying you become a net contributor at around a £30-35k salary. I'd like to know what proportion of EU immigrants aren't at that benchmark.
Either way, Migration is a small part of the whole Argument, or at least it should only be a small part of it. If the media hadn't blown it out of proportion over the last few years it wouldn't be an issue at all.
How do unskilled immigrants help the UK economy?
Selected, skilled workers certainly do, we have plenty of home grown unskilled workers out of work.
If they do help the UK economy, we must immediately accept anyone and everyone, let's start with around an extra 50 million,
then we'd all be living the life of Reilly.
Yes it does. Anyone from the EU, be they skilled or not can work and live here. The upshot is that hundreds of thousands of peopleNo, It doesn't. the study covers ALL EU Immigrants but the balance is that there are more skilled ones and they bring in more than they take out, even with those "low skill" ones you are talking about. but then if they manage to fund getting here, find places to live, find jobs and manage to get by in a country that doesnt speak there native language then I would suggest there skills are a lot higher than you give them credit for.
Yep, this is true, I've seen at first hand the inherent laziness of native 'workers' compared to many of the immigrants you describe.We do have plenty of unskilled workers out of work in this country but from past experience a lot of them can't be bothered to work. Over the years we have had influxes from different European countries, be they Polish, Lithuanian etc etc and without exception they have all come here to work, and work hard. Sure in the beginning a lot of the Polish earned money was being sent home but now those original unskilled workers are settled, have mortgages and pay taxes. In all this time I have employed English workers as well and they seem to be the ones who take days off sick, don't want to do overtime and generally piss about. I know this is a big generalisation but this is what I have witnessed over the last 15 years.