I agree the Leave campaign is very poorly constructed, however the immigration card is stronger than some may choose to acknowledge. If you were in a battle such as this, would you not play your strongest card at every opportunity, a bit like the Remain campaign keep wanting to talk ablout the economy.... ally's fair in live and war!
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I reckon fear of losing your job or your savings trumps the Polish plumber next door any day.
So this whole thing has now turned into a 'battle'? No clear, concise info for the general public but lots of bluster and counter bluster in order to points score, further muddying the waters for the undecided. The whole thing is turning into a farce, the country is being divided, fear is the the main selling point.
Always been a battle from day one has it not? But I do agree with your points on muddying the water on the undecided, I would ask who initiated the fear campaign..... The remainers with all their forecasts about civil unrest, massive household deficits and our ability not to cope or the Leavers with the immigration fears...? Which came first? And never forget the old adage, you have to fight fire with fire!So this whole thing has now turned into a 'battle'? No clear, concise info for the general public but lots of bluster and counter bluster in order to points score, further muddying the waters for the undecided. The whole thing is turning into a farce, the country is being divided, fear is the the main selling point.
When the leavers turn up the vitriol to this extent then it strikes me they know they've lost. They're already talking post referendum revenge which means they know which way the wind is blowing.
It is possible the polls could be wrong, but they are beginning to look consistently in favour of remain.
The leaver campaign is a shambles, the constant playing of the immigration card, which they reckon is the strongest one they've got, looks increasingly like the only one they've got.
.... it is isn't it.... Ever walked down Seven Sisters Road North London?Yes they are desperate but the Brexiters will pull in a lot of votes, especially from the daytime TV watchers who think Somalia is a EU Member State!
That's my biggest fear, scorched earth policy and ready to destroy people's lives to get an outcome that is rabidly desired. Basically when people are prepared to sink to any depth to win that is when they have lost!As long as we leave don't care what tactics are used.
What was being said the way I read it is we've lost the argument but if we get within 5% we will claim victory even though we lost.I know that, if the only consequence that matters iis the outcome of the referendum your point is correct and valid. However, like too many of your previous points, this point is futile. You know precisely what was being said here.... still if you're happy to go and shove your head down the dunny and choose not to see the bigger picture that IS developing, then fair play to you!
That's my biggest fear, scorched earth policy and ready to destroy people's lives to get an outcome that is rabidly desired. Basically when people are prepared to sink to any depth to win that is when they have lost!
Starting to behave like the very people who they look down their noses atWhen the leavers turn up the vitriol to this extent then it strikes me they know they've lost. They're already talking post referendum revenge which means they know which way the wind is blowing.
It is possible the polls could be wrong, but they are beginning to look consistently in favour of remain.
The leaver campaign is a shambles, the constant playing of the immigration card, which they reckon is the strongest one they've got, looks increasingly like the only one they've got.
Don't worry, you clearly don't get it do you? Not worth trying to explain!What was being said the way I read it is we've lost the argument but if we get within 5% we will claim victory even though we lost.
I never liked it 15 years ago when only losing by one to the rags was seen by some as a moral victory . Defeat is defeat
You always seem to be talking about how well you are doing? It can hardly have been too hard on you? Whose lives are being destroyed, where is this North Korean enclave in Cheshire?Peoples lives are being slowly destroyed by staying in.
.... it is isn't it.... Ever walked down Seven Sisters Road North London?
BTW that's Tottenham away for those that need prompting.... And there is an element irony to the original post here, for those that may be offended!
As long as we leave don't care what tactics are used.
When the leavers turn up the vitriol to this extent then it strikes me they know they've lost. They're already talking post referendum revenge which means they know which way the wind is blowing.
It is possible the polls could be wrong, but they are beginning to look consistently in favour of remain.
The leaver campaign is a shambles, the constant playing of the immigration card, which they reckon is the strongest one they've got, looks increasingly like the only one they've got.
They should have made a better job of highlighting the dysfunctional structure of the EU, the disaster of the Euro, "ever increasing union" etc. They have almost entirely focused on immigration at the expense of any sensible discussion about the long term problems facing the EU in the future. They seem to have based their campaign on the assumption that they they're only talking to the stupid.
Because deep down they believe that group can give them a majority, it is a very very sad view of the British people and making it a referenda about immigration , foreigners, different religions etc will scare off a fair % of middle of the road people a little afraid of the path of the EU but not wanting to associate with that path.They should have made a better job of highlighting the dysfunctional structure of the EU, the disaster of the Euro, "ever increasing union" etc. They have almost entirely focused on immigration at the expense of any sensible discussion about the long term problems facing the EU in the future. They seem to have based their campaign on the assumption that they they're only talking to the stupid.
And you would be wrong, mate, it´s the french who are pushing hardest for an EU army (why a trading block requires a military is interesting) they are pushing for it as they expect to be in charge of it."History is written by the victor" ;)
What I find striking is how France is never called up for the sheer number of military engagements its had over the centuries or how they once tried to conquer Europe and Britain militarily not 200 years ago. Its like they have a free pass of ignorance. It'd be interesting to hear the French position on the EU Army, if i'm honest. I know the Germans are quite keen, they've already annexed the Dutch tank regiments.
why a trading block requires a military is interesting.
They should have made a better job of highlighting the dysfunctional structure of the EU, the disaster of the Euro, "ever increasing union" etc. They have almost entirely focused on immigration at the expense of any sensible discussion about the long term problems facing the EU in the future. They seem to have based their campaign on the assumption that they they're only talking to the stupid.