Euro 2024

[jimharri]

What did Joakim Lowe do before guiding Germany to a World Cup win ?

That seems to be a common trait of yours; comparing England to other countries, rather than judging them on their own merits.

 

[VOOMER]

Won the German Cup and was a runner up in the Cup Winners Cup and had won trophies in Austria. But he had a core group of players who were at Bayern Munich and had the benefit of winning pretty much everything in the build up to their World Cup success.

It was a similar story with Spain and their International success.

France is the outlier really. Deschamps is very similar to Southgate in that he's focussed on team harmony and playing for each other and understands the need for defensive balance and discipline rather than throwing a bunch of attacking talent together - probably because that was his role as a player.

Southgate has brought some brilliant memories and whilst we've ultimately failed, I've had some great times following England with him in charge.

I do level our Euro loss last time out at him, because he didn't change things proactively and their goal was coming for a while. It was a similar story to the Croatia semi final loss and he should have managed the situation better. But tournament football goes that way, and arguably we didn't have the experience throughout the team to get over the line - we dropped deep and panicked under the pressure.

His job is to make sure we don't do that in this tournament.

Unless you win a trophy you've failed, but Southgate will have been the best failure we've had.

That said Deschamps as a player has won everything bar the League cup and as a manager the WC. Waistcoat has won a couple of league cups, he's certainly not been a failure as a player, how he became England manager is a ucking mystery.

 

[VOOMER]

That seems to be a common trait of yours; comparing England to other countries, rather than judging them on their own merits.

The FA is a nest of vipers

 

[BlueHammer85]

Won the German Cup and was a runner up in the Cup Winners Cup and had won trophies in Austria. But he had a core group of players who were at Bayern Munich and had the benefit of winning pretty much everything in the build up to their World Cup success.

It was a similar story with Spain and their International success.

France is the outlier really. Deschamps is very similar to Southgate in that he's focussed on team harmony and playing for each other and understands the need for defensive balance and discipline rather than throwing a bunch of attacking talent together - probably because that was his role as a player.

Southgate has brought some brilliant memories and whilst we've ultimately failed, I've had some great times following England with him in charge.

I do level our Euro loss last time out at him, because he didn't change things proactively and their goal was coming for a while. It was a similar story to the Croatia semi final loss and he should have managed the situation better. But tournament football goes that way, and arguably we didn't have the experience throughout the team to get over the line - we dropped deep and panicked under the pressure.

His job is to make sure we don't do that in this tournament.

Unless you win a trophy you've failed, but Southgate will have been the best failure we've had.

Fair assessment

 

[BlueHammer85]

Just excuses that mate, big games and England bottle it, a lot of that boils down to Southgate.

What was the excuse before Southgate then? When we had managers like Capello and Sven that won countless trophies world wide

 

[TinFoilHat]

Local plod getting practice welcoming Engerland fans to Gelsenkirchen.

 

[TinFoilHat]

 

[CTID1988]

What did Joakim Lowe do before guiding Germany to a World Cup win ?

Eat his bogies and scratch his arse and balls then sniff his fingers, mainly

 

[Craig]

What was the excuse before Southgate then? When we had managers like Capello and Sven that won countless trophies world wide

Under Fabio the team was pretty much past it. Under Sven he played a rigid 442 with probably his most technically gifted player left wing. On Friday we’ll see the same issue as Southgate plays the most technically gifted player out on the left.

With Sven to be fair it was even worse as sometimes he played someone bang average out on the left. When he had loads of brilliant centre halves and good options for wingbacks. Was like having Mike Basset when you look back on it.

 

[RayCTID]

What did Joakim Lowe do before guiding Germany to a World Cup win ?

Better than Southgate. A DFB Pokal, A League title in Austria, Austrian Supercup and runners up in the European Cup Winners cup. Low's most successful spell in Domestic football was at VfB Stuttgart.