European away games ticketing policy

Nice one mate. Will do. What you doing for accommodation?
Not booked anything yet, but Dusseldorf is normally the cheapest. Stayed at Hotel Tryp in Dortmund on both occasions that we played there.(the hotel overlooks Dortmund's stadium)

Schalke-Nice kicks off a bit earlier so it won't be such a mad rush after the game.

It just depends on what happens with the Monchengladbach collection
 
So you have 12000 points
I have 17000 points
That means I've been to approximately 125 away games worth more than you at 40 points per game.
I never miss a European away game. But for the last five games I've had to traipse across unknown cities in my time and at my expense. In Monchengladbach I'm going to have to pay for a return rail ticket for about £40 because I won't have my ticket for the game.
All so that you can get a ticket?

That seems reasonable doesn't it? My money and my time for you to have a ticket for the game you fancy going to?

You're taking the piss pal!
I don't get tickets for pals or pass them on, I go to games to watch City at considerable expense and with alot of commitment.
I'm all for getting rid of those stopping you going, but it shouldn't be at my expense or inconvenience, perhaps it should just be at yours and those on similar points.

the best post on this board for a very long time.

take a bow fella.
 
Loyalty points is a very simple system in which loyalty is rewarded.

Those on the most points have been to the most games its that simple and rightly get first dibs at tickets.

As for the ticketing arrangements for Euro aways? Absolute fucking farce and the club treating fans like cattle and idiots!
 
Loyalty points is a very simple system in which loyalty is rewarded.

Those on the most points have been to the most games its that simple and rightly get first dibs at tickets.

As for the ticketing arrangements for Euro aways? Absolute fucking farce and the club treating fans like cattle and idiots!
Your naive if you think it's that simple with all the complaints on this thread
 
Loyalty points is a very simple system in which loyalty is rewarded.

Those on the most points have been to the most games its that simple and rightly get first dibs at tickets.

As for the ticketing arrangements for Euro aways? Absolute fucking farce and the club treating fans like cattle and idiots!

I think they have been re-named ticket points because they do not actually reflect so called ` loyalty`.
There is no `fair` system which will satisfy everyone as supporters start following the club at different times and will therefore naturally have lower points than others.
What is clear is that by paying £50 more from Gold to Platinum membership the club doubles the points awarded to the individual for every ticket purchased and for each cup scheme signed up to. This has nothing to do with loyalty or fairness or games attended. It is the unreasonable doubling of points for an extra payment. In essence the club devised a few years ago a scheme to raise more income. This is no longer relevant and has contributed to a widening in the gap between `normal` fans simply because one has paid £50 more. This has been raised before and needs to be addressed.

The club should, as I am sure it will, take a long. hard and careful look at the ticket distribution arrangements for away Champions League games and decide exactly what it is trying to achieve, why it has been introduced, and how the current `new` system can be improved significantly.
 
Your naive if you think it's that simple with all the complaints on this thread
It is that simple, for the tickets distributed to supporters via loyalty points. I disagree that people can't catch up, I was at or around the top a few years ago, but as has been mentioned already, circumstances change, priorities change. I've missed a few over the last three/four years and if someone catches up/overtakes me, good on them.
I don't have a problem with the ticket collection on the basis of points going to people attending, no one else. I agree it's a pain in the arse to collect the tickets, I've got flights booked for Barcelona, but as my flight lands at 17:40 I'm dithering on buying a ticket through the club, or get one in their end because I'm not sure I will have time to get from the airport to the ground via a ticket collection queue.
Loyalty points aren't the problem - people who think they are forget that those on the top points are those who where at Maine Road every other Saturday morning at 3 to 5am queuing for away tickets in the old second / third division. Every other week. And have been going since. I still see/say hello to people who's name I don't know, but spent hours queuing with, week after week, for years as we produced "XX" number of away stubs from last season (most of which you would only have got at the time having produced "XX" number of stubs from the season before). The day they introduced points, everyone in that queue got their Saturday mornings back - more than once I drove home with tickets, fell asleep in the car on the drive at home, woke up and drove back to Maine Road for the match. I've dropped off, as others have/inevitably will, but whilst they are still doing every game, why shouldn't they get priority?

The problem isn't just those with points passing them on (although the way the away European games have opened up recently it is a problem) it's the what seems to be an ever increasing % of the allocation going elsewhere which just raises the debate on the distribution method we know the most about - ie what is available to normal supporters.
 
It is that simple, for the tickets distributed to supporters via loyalty points. I disagree that people can't catch up, I was at or around the top a few years ago, but as has been mentioned already, circumstances change, priorities change. I've missed a few over the last three/four years and if someone catches up/overtakes me, good on them.
I don't have a problem with the ticket collection on the basis of points going to people attending, no one else. I agree it's a pain in the arse to collect the tickets, I've got flights booked for Barcelona, but as my flight lands at 17:40 I'm dithering on buying a ticket through the club, or get one in their end because I'm not sure I will have time to get from the airport to the ground via a ticket collection queue.
Loyalty points aren't the problem - people who think they are forget that those on the top points are those who where at Maine Road every other Saturday morning at 3 to 5am queuing for away tickets in the old second / third division. Every other week. And have been going since. I still see/say hello to people who's name I don't know, but spent hours queuing with, week after week, for years as we produced "XX" number of away stubs from last season (most of which you would only have got at the time having produced "XX" number of stubs from the season before). The day they introduced points, everyone in that queue got their Saturday mornings back - more than once I drove home with tickets, fell asleep in the car on the drive at home, woke up and drove back to Maine Road for the match. I've dropped off, as others have/inevitably will, but whilst they are still doing every game, why shouldn't they get priority?

The problem isn't just those with points passing them on (although the way the away European games have opened up recently it is a problem) it's the what seems to be an ever increasing % of the allocation going elsewhere which just raises the debate on the distribution method we know the most about - ie what is available to normal supporters.
But people buy tickets and don't go or sell them on

So it's not that simple
 
But people buy tickets and don't go or sell them on

So it's not that simple
I'm not disagreeing with that, my post was getting a bit long so I shortened it @blueinsa 's post included "been to the most games" which the key word was "been" not "Bought tickets for"

The number of tickets offered to supporters based on points are being squeezed every season - again I'll ask @squirtyflower to drop in as he's done the research that shows if you qualified for a game last season, went to every game since, the bar is now higher but with the same number of tickets allocated and if you were close last time, this time it's do not pass go do not collect £200.

I'm not disagreeing that those passing them on are a problem, but I do think the squeeze on the number of tickets available based on loyalty points is raising a debate that would not be hapenning if the club put the same amount of tickets on sale each year. These tickets are going somewhere and it isn't on sale to people relying on points to buy them.
 

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