Evan Ferguson

[johnny crossan]

He could switch. If he makes one more competitive appearance he can't, but he won't switch.

He is just injured.


September 2020, the 70th edition of the FIFA Congress approved a rule change that now allows players to switch if they have played no more than three competitive matches at senior level prior to them turning 21 including no appearances in FIFA World Cup finals matches or continental finals (e.g. the UEFA European Championship). However, appearing in a tournament qualifier would not.[31][32][33][34] Furthermore, players who played for their home country but not at senior level, who were under 21 at the time and have since lived in a new country for five years or more can apply for the right to represent their new place of residence.[35] This also applies to players that began living on the territory before the age of 10 for at least three years.[36]

Evan Ferguson - National team

This is the national team page of AS Rom player Evan Ferguson. This page contains a statistic about the player's national team career.

www.transfermarkt.co.uk

He got a hattrick last Saturday against the barcodes - looked OK then...

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

He got a hattrick last Saturday against the barcodes - looked OK then...

Stephen Kenny confirms Evan Ferguson’s knee injury was not sustained in Newcastle game

Patella tendon injury was exacerbated by Bruno Guimarães’s challenge but it is one that has been troubling the striker for a period of time

www.irishtimes.com

 

[bluesmith]

He could switch. If he makes one more competitive appearance he can't, but he won't switch.

He is just injured.


September 2020, the 70th edition of the FIFA Congress approved a rule change that now allows players to switch if they have played no more than three competitive matches at senior level prior to them turning 21 including no appearances in FIFA World Cup finals matches or continental finals (e.g. the UEFA European Championship). However, appearing in a tournament qualifier would not.[31][32][33][34] Furthermore, players who played for their home country but not at senior level, who were under 21 at the time and have since lived in a new country for five years or more can apply for the right to represent their new place of residence.[35] This also applies to players that began living on the territory before the age of 10 for at least three years.[36]

Evan Ferguson - National team

This is the national team page of AS Rom player Evan Ferguson. This page contains a statistic about the player's national team career.

www.transfermarkt.co.uk

This is incorrect.

The below link from Fifa states (pg15)

'The player was fielded in no more than three matches at “A” international level in any kind of football for their current association, whether in an official competition or non-official competition.'

He's played 6 games so is ineligible to change to England. He could however not play for Ireland for 3 years and then transfer nationalities
https://digitalhub.fifa.com/m/b98d35fc16dc274b/original/elcthdgwfgx7dcxdenas-pdf.pdf

 

[Eoiyflem]

In terms of age and scoring, Kelechi Iheanacho was outperforming Ferguson. Ferguson maybe a little younger when he broke into the team, but his stats aren't even close to Iheanacho's breakthrough season.

Kelechi was 18 at the start of the 15/16 season and scored 14 goals at a rate of one ever 86 minutes. Ferguson is now on 14 at a goal every 117 minutes.

Stats can always be manipulated to suit the argument. Watching both players play at the same age, style, stature etc they are night and day.

 

[Kippax Street 1880]

They do sell players for a goodly amount, the media are building up their big pay day for them and all they need do is sit back and shovel the money in.

The media keep telling us that Rashford is the best striker in Europe and no amount of facts showing he is shit will slow that train down :)

Nobody anywhere has ever said Rashford is the best striker in Europe. Not even the letters page in the rag matchday programme is that fucking deluded

 

[mexico1970]

Nobody anywhere has ever said Rashford is the best striker in Europe. Not even the letters page in the rag matchday programme is that fucking deluded.

Lest we forget mate ;)

Man Utd 4-1 Real Betis: How can Marcus Rashford get even better?

Man Utd 4-1 Real Betis: How can Marcus Rashford get even better?

www.bbc.com

 

[Summerbuzz]

This is incorrect.

The below link from Fifa states (pg15)

'The player was fielded in no more than three matches at “A” international level in any kind of football for their current association, whether in an official competition or non-official competition.'

He's played 6 games so is ineligible to change to England. He could however not play for Ireland for 3 years and then transfer nationalities
https://digitalhub.fifa.com/m/b98d35fc16dc274b/original/elcthdgwfgx7dcxdenas-pdf.pdf

The query was if that wording meant that friendlies counted. Apparently The Telegraph ran an article about Evan that said they didn't - but it looks as if the segment about his eligibility has been removed. There's still a Sun article floating about that references what The Telegraph published. Everyone else is running with the line that he cannot change.

 

[bluenova]

Lest we forget mate ;)

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Man Utd 4-1 Real Betis: How can Marcus Rashford get even better?

Man Utd 4-1 Real Betis: How can Marcus Rashford get even better?

www.bbc.com

To be fair, you've just googled him being the most in-form striker in Europe, which he arguably was at that time.

Apart from the season when Ronaldo totally messed up United's play, he's also got progressively better, and scoring 30 goals last season does put him up as one of Europe's best strikers (he scored the 6th most goals in the top leagues, and two of the people above him played in France).

 

[waspish]

Lest we forget mate ;)

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Man Utd 4-1 Real Betis: How can Marcus Rashford get even better?

Man Utd 4-1 Real Betis: How can Marcus Rashford get even better?

www.bbc.com

One thing with Rashford he pays a lot for his PR! above average player/striker! Making absolute mint from the scum! Anywhere else he be on 100k a weeks at best! Oh it's why he still there!

 

[bluenova]

Stats can always be manipulated to suit the argument. Watching both players play at the same age, style, stature etc they are night and day.

The stats aren't manipulated though. You might argue that there is more to their game than the goals they've scored, but the stats, in terms of games and goals at similar ages, aren't manipulated at all.

I'd also argue that Iheanacho looked at home in City's team from the start, and "night and day" feels to me like a comment very much biased by Iheanacho's career progression.

I hate to make back to back positive comments about United players, but I was replying to a comment saying no-one had been at this level since Rooney. I think Iheanacho suggests it's a bit early to be judging him as a new Rooney - he might be or he could just be a good PL player.

 

[mexico1970]

To be fair, you've just googled him being the most in-form striker in Europe, which he arguably was at that time.

Apart from the season when Ronaldo totally messed up United's play, he's also got progressively better, and scoring 30 goals last season does put him up as one of Europe's best strikers (he scored the 6th most goals in the top leagues, and two of the people above him played in France).

Some of that rubbish was from when Haaland was smashing them in left right and centre, it shouldn't be a surprise that a striker score that many goals with the salary they are on.

I don't know where you are getting your stats from because he is nowhere near 6th on the European list, the point is that he is another overpaid asset at the swamp, I am sure you'll agree.

But he isn't anywhere near the best in Europe.

https://www.worldfootball.net/

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#​	Player		Country	Team	Goals (Penalty)​
1.​	Erling Haaland		Norway	Manchester City	36 (7)​
2.​	Harry Kane		England	Tottenham Hotspur	30 (5)​
3.​	Ivan Toney		England	Brentford FC	20 (6)​
4.​	Mo Salah		Egypt	Liverpool FC	19 (2)​
5.​	Callum Wilson		England	Newcastle United	18 (3)​
6.​	Marcus Rashford		England	Manchester United	17 (0)​
7.​	Gabriel Martinelli		Brazil	Arsenal FC	15 (0)​
​	Martin Ødegaard		Norway	Arsenal FC	15 (0)​

 

[bluenova]

Some of that rubbish was from when Haaland was smashing them in left right and centre, it shouldn't be a surprise that a striker score that many goals with the salary they are on.

But he isn't anywhere near the best in Europe.

https://www.worldfootball.net/

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#​	Player		Country	Team	Goals (Penalty)​
1.​	Erling Haaland		Norway	Manchester City	36 (7)​
2.​	Harry Kane		England	Tottenham Hotspur	30 (5)​
3.​	Ivan Toney		England	Brentford FC	20 (6)​
4.​	Mo Salah		Egypt	Liverpool FC	19 (2)​
5.​	Callum Wilson		England	Newcastle United	18 (3)​
6.​	Marcus Rashford		England	Manchester United	17 (0)​
7.​	Gabriel Martinelli		Brazil	Arsenal FC	15 (0)​
​	Martin Ødegaard		Norway	Arsenal FC	15 (0)​

For a couple of months he did outscore Haaland - post World Cup, he got 16 goals in about the same number of matches, and Haaland scored about 10 in the same period. Clearly his "current form" didn't match Haaland's season long form, but Haaland wasn't quite smashing them in at the time that Rashford was being feted.

Across all competitions, he was 6th across players in the top leagues:

Top 13 players with most goals in 2022-23 season

These players have been on top class form in front of the goal. Here are the top ten players with most goal in 2022-23 in all competitions.

khelnow.com

He's no Haaland, but he is one of the better strikers in Europe, and the articles linked to were two from his manager bigging him up, and one with "on current form" in the headline, which isn't quite as hyperbolic as suggested.

 

[mexico1970]

For a couple of months he did outscore Haaland - post World Cup, he got 16 goals in about the same number of matches, and Haaland scored about 10 in the same period. Clearly his "current form" didn't match Haaland's season long form, but Haaland wasn't quite smashing them in at the time that Rashford was being feted.

Across all competitions, he was 6th across players in the top leagues:

Top 13 players with most goals in 2022-23 season

These players have been on top class form in front of the goal. Here are the top ten players with most goal in 2022-23 in all competitions.

khelnow.com

He's no Haaland, but he is one of the better strikers in Europe, and the articles linked to were two from his manager bigging him up, and one with "on current form" in the headline, which isn't quite as hyperbolic as suggested.

He is nowhere near one of the best strikers in Europe, his stats prove that and the stats aren't only from this year.

SKY were bigging him up as were BT at the time, as I said for £350,000 a week he's a bit on the shit side.

Appearances 243
Goals77

 

[bluenova]

He is nowhere near one of the best strikers in Europe, his stats prove that and the stats aren't only from this year.

SKY were bigging him up as were BT at the time, as I said for £350,000 a week he's a bit on the shit side.

Appearances 243
Goals77

I think maybe we're talking about different things.

You're talking about a time when BT and Sky were bigging him up - I agree that they probably were, because last season he scored 30 goals - the 6th best in Europe - and he scored half of those in a two month period were he was outscoring even Haaland.

Suggesting the claims that he was one of the best in Europe last season by providing his league goals all the way from the start of his career, when he was scoring just a few goals a season and playing lots of games as a sub, does very little. Ronaldo scored just 32 goals in his first 168 games.

So, I never said he was the best 18 year old in Europe, or has been the one of the best for the last half dozen years, I said that last season, and at the time that the articles were referring to, he was one of the best strikers in Europe. I'm happy to stand by that.

I don't mind if you don't like him, but there's no need to broaden the argument beyond what I said.

 

[houraisen]

 

[mexico1970]

I think maybe we're talking about different things.

You're talking about a time when BT and Sky were bigging him up - I agree that they probably were, because last season he scored 30 goals - the 6th best in Europe - and he scored half of those in a two month period were he was outscoring even Haaland.

Suggesting the claims that he was one of the best in Europe last season by providing his league goals all the way from the start of his career, when he was scoring just a few goals a season and playing lots of games as a sub, does very little. Ronaldo scored just 32 goals in his first 168 games.

So, I never said he was the best 18 year old in Europe, or has been the one of the best for the last half dozen years, I said that last season, and at the time that the articles were referring to, he was one of the best strikers in Europe. I'm happy to stand by that.

I don't mind if you don't like him, but there's no need to broaden the argument beyond what I said.

What I am saying is pretty clear mate, they blow smoke up his arse despite him playing for a side that spent a fortune and he has at best average striking stats.

He's an upcoming prospect in their eyes still ;)

 

[bluesmith]

The query was if that wording meant that friendlies counted. Apparently The Telegraph ran an article about Evan that said they didn't - but it looks as if the segment about his eligibility has been removed. There's still a Sun article floating about that references what The Telegraph published. Everyone else is running with the line that he cannot change.

Non-official means friendlies from what I'm reading, if this is the case it reads pretty clear to me that he doesnt meet the criteria to transfer to England at present.

 

[Blue and true]

Ferguson wouldn't make much sense given we already have The Viking. Only way it happens is if we lose Alvarez or Ferguson proves adept at the playmaker/second striker role in the coming seasons; neither of which scenarios I envisage happening.

Although I admit he looks bona-fide.

 

[TonyColemansbagofapples]

I think maybe we're talking about different things.

You're talking about a time when BT and Sky were bigging him up - I agree that they probably were, because last season he scored 30 goals - the 6th best in Europe - and he scored half of those in a two month period were he was outscoring even Haaland.

Suggesting the claims that he was one of the best in Europe last season by providing his league goals all the way from the start of his career, when he was scoring just a few goals a season and playing lots of games as a sub, does very little. Ronaldo scored just 32 goals in his first 168 games.

So, I never said he was the best 18 year old in Europe, or has been the one of the best for the last half dozen years, I said that last season, and at the time that the articles were referring to, he was one of the best strikers in Europe. I'm happy to stand by that.

I don't mind if you don't like him, but there's no need to broaden the argument beyond what I said.

Nearly all players, especially strikers, play lots of games as a substitute at the start of their careers. Rashford is no different. The big difference is that he plays for one of the golden clubs.

 

[handsofstone]

He's started the season on fire, but last year he was ok without really shining, 6 goals

He's deffo one to keep an eye on, but let's see how many goals he'll get across a full season

The tell of a good striker is once the goals start drying up, which they always do, how does he respond

That'll be the difference between him ending up with titles or being at a club who's aspirations are to chase top 4 or even just to get into the Europa