Everton (a) post-match thread

Kiss this guy said:
One of two things is happening as far as I can see, we're either going through a blip and just about managing to cling on until we find form again, or we have finally been found out and it's only a matter of time before the wheels come off.
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Last 16, won 14, drawn 1, lost 1

I think we have been found out.
 
I'm Blue said:
Alan shearer says it’s the clearest handball you will ever see.
offside or onside it hits his sleeve.
not clear and obvious cos it hits his sleeve you fucking cretin.
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Was it more clear than this one?
Because i don’t remember a similar outcry then!!!!
 

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vincent said:
It was a strange one as they never looked at the offside when they reviewed VAR and apparently the ref told Lampard it was not offside even though they restarted the game with offside.
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What happened after Rodri controlled the ball? Did the ball go out of play to enable the VAR review, or was there another offside? I was so depressed at the inevitable penalty that I wasn't paying much attention. Good I don't have a cat ....

I only ask, because the game restarted with an indirect free kick, presumably for an offside. Pre- or post- I don't know.

And what Lampard says doesn't make sense. If they concluded there was no handball, they wouldn't have looked at the potential offside. There is no way the VAR would have said to the referee, no penalty for handball and he wasn't offside either. Makes no sense. The only way Lampard's comments make sense is if the referee just told him he didn't BLOW for offside. That doesn't mean he wasn't, and that it wouldn't have been checked if they HAD determined a penalty for handball.
 
without forensic levels of scrutiny (impossible in practise) there will always be "judgement" by human(s) in certain situations. Other major sports reduce this by using technology such as multiple cameras that are big-screened almost immediately. Very little wriggle-room, much less controversy. The excuse that football at every level must be controlled exactly the same is a piss-take.
The use of an imaginary t-shirt cuff as a yes/no decider is another can of worms. T-shirts are not made to strict rules, which part of the ball makes contact, was there intent, was it arm-to-ball or ball-to-arm, is it even a consideration. What-ever, on the numerous occasions City have been on the end of controversial decisions, the level of outrage and scrutiny has never ever reached this level. Scousers playing the victim card is as predictable as night follows day, yawn, but this has been a pile-on of epic scale.
 
vincent said:
It was a strange one as they never looked at the offside when they reviewed VAR and apparently the ref told Lampard it was not offside even though they restarted the game with offside.
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They correctly restarted the game after the VAR check from where the game had stopped and that was the offside decision that the ref made AFTER the potential hand ball. That was the ‘offside’ that the managers were told of. Because Stockley Park didn’t award the penalty (they confirmed they found no clear video evidence) then there was no reason to check the first offside. IF they had deemed it a penalty then they would have then checked that possibility and shown the lines on screen.
 
SamBlue said:
Thank you sir, I'll definitely trying anything, although it helps we've won this afternoon. :)
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You're very welcome. Also I forgot to add, I was reading a book by Matthew Walker called " Why We Sleep " it tells how getting eight hours sleep reguraly is very important for mental and physical health, learning and recovery. Fasting helps too. As you say City winning helps also. Good luck.
 
The offside was subsequent to the 'handball'.

The reason the pen was not given was because the VAR official and the ref deemed that the ball struck Rodri's upper arm at the sleeve area. If you read the FA website and look at the handball rules you will see that not all of the arm is covered by the handball rule.

If the handball had been given it would have been city fans who would have been angry.

I accept that it's a marginal call. I believe the VAR official was not convinced that the ref made a clear and obvious error. Had the ref called it as a pen. then I bet VAR would not have overturned it.
 
I was worried in real time but on the replays there's deffo some 'shirt' involved...maybe time for shirt sleeve technology? ;)

Anyway the diving Brazilan was offside, doesn't matter if it was looked at ultimately the correct decision was given.

Not got time to watch as working today but Eddie was booked on the re-start I think for placing the ball in the wrong place deemed timewasting....where did the re-start happen? That should clear up the offside if from where the stills show him off.
 
When it first happened I thought penalty, I think what happened is VAR reviewed the handball and decided it wasn’t clear and obvious which it wasn’t so didn’t over turn the decision. The reason they didn’t check the off side was because they didn’t need to again only an opinion but if they had thougt it was hand ball they would have then gone back and checked the offside. That was my take and yes we would all be pissed if if it had happened the other way but that’s football.
 
citymad said:
Sorry, a herniated disc is mechanical spine problem. Needs mechanical therapy to resolve it not a avoiding a piece of bread although I do appreciate an holistic approach.
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I know that, thanks. I already saw a physio in the hospital and a sports therapist after spending time in the hospital. I was on crutches, I couldn't walk properly, and had to try to recover slowly. Diet, sleep and fasting can also help.
 
Rebelblue said:
As much as the law is a disgrace its this simple for me. Ref thinks it hit the sleeve from his skewed angle. Var look at it and it clearly hits his sleeve hence there is no error and no need to look at the screen.

We got away with one only because the laws of handball are so shit these days they make sense to no one.

It was never going to be a pen this season, but would be if Liverpool or Utd needed it to be in every other single season pre this one.
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