Everton Thread - 2023/24

[flook]

No it wasn't in place but my view is his race etc is the reason his involvement was not overly criticised.

No, his involvement wasn't criticised because there was no basis for criticism as there was no rules relating to owner finance even under consideration never mind in place. Not everything is about race you know, unless you choose to make it such

 

[Bald fraud]

So the points deduction is from last season but they didn’t give it to them then as they would have been relegated. So they give it to them now where there’s a very good chance they’ll stay up. Nothing dodgy at all. If they do look like they’re in trouble this season they’ll get help from the officials to stay up

 

[Jam Tomorrow]

So the points deduction is from last season but they didn’t give it to them then as they would have been relegated. So they give it to them now where there’s a very good chance they’ll stay up. Nothing dodgy at all. If they do look like they’re in trouble this season they’ll get help from the officials to stay up

It’s looking a bit fishy to say the least. I don’t have any issues with Everton but it makes me wonder if a deal has been cooked up whereby they get a reduction on appeal that means they comfortably stay up, but causes a huge shit storm for City to get hammered.
I also think Chelsea will dodge a huge City style public humiliation by being touted as honest geezers for fessing up in advance of the mountain of stuff that’s now coming out. Yank mafia.

 

[BlueLou82]

So the rumours doing the rounds that the independent commission consisted of the below people, all employed by the PL. Not sure whats 'independent' about this

Richard Masters - say no more
Emma Wilkinson - ex Chelsea head of comms under Abramovich.
Nick Igoe - Finance Director at West Ham during the Tevez affair.
Ross Christie

 

[Toffeedude]

Didn't age well

Well, they were hell bent to get us.

 

[BamberBridgeBlue]

The only thing I will say is that they have united a partly fractured fanbase now and created a siege mentality.

I think Goodison will be horrible next weekend and im all here for it.

It’s a farce. At least everyone can see it for what it is. Everton get deducted 10 points (and fwiw I doubt it’ll do you any harm, you’ll stay up), and straight away the story is City. The rules were brought in for one club and one club only. This is United and Liverpool’s train set. City are at a party we were never invited to. The Premier League are really playing with fire. They’d rather self destruct than allow competition.

 

[WestGorton]

No, his involvement wasn't criticised because there was no basis for criticism as there was no rules relating to owner finance even under consideration never mind in place. Not everything is about race you know, unless you choose to make it such

Our owners our under the spotlight due to their origin in my opinion. That is my ultimate point. You choose to make it not about origin. That is your opinion. I have mine. You know.

 

[StillBluessinceHydeRoad]

If I am right Everton exceded PL limits on their spending by about £8 million a year over a three year period. By my calculation that is by about one third of a Harry Maguire a year, or of Anthony or of a slightly bigger portion of a Casemiro or Jadon Sancho a year. For this they must suffer a deduction of 10 points. Manchester United lost some £200 million in the same period. Not as much as Everton but the red team spent/wasted a deal more money doing it and yet there is to be no investigation and certainly no points deduction or other sanction. This is because Manchester United are allowed to spend a great deal more than Everton. The debt, currently around the billion pound mark does not enter into the matter, but the PL must defend the profitability of Everton and make it more sustainable. The way to do this is by deducting ten points and throwing it into a relegation battle which could see the departure of many of the better players. The way to defend Manchester United's profitability is a little different. This involves ALLOWING the club to spend much more than Everton, in the hope they will buy the odd decent playet amid the rubbish, ALLOW the owners to bleed money out of the club and game, save money by letting the stadium to fall apart and taking into account the cruel tricks pandemics and other circumstances have played on them. This seems outrageous to most objective and intelligent observers but, in fact, it is financial FAIR play and to ram home the point, the PL is determined to ruin, if it can, the club whose owners have devoted themselves to running the club on the soundest of modern business principles, has put the club in the position of posting record levels of income for at least two years, has recently recorded record profits and is investing £300 million in infrastructure. As everyone knows, or at least they who are stupid enough, this can only be done by fiddling the accounts. That's not fair.

Ain't it funny that the FOUR clubs which seem to be involved are all from either Manchester or Liverpool.

 

[bigA]

Somehow I think Everton will have the points deduction overturned on appeal (or suspended) and will get a hefty fine instead.

Personally, I think the punishment is very harsh. You get less points deducted for running a club into the ground and into administration.

 

[flook]

Our owners our under the spotlight due to their origin in my opinion. That is my ultimate point. You choose to make it not about origin. That is your opinion. I have mine. You know.

our owners and our current situation is a completely different discussion and I made no comment about that.

Your point about Jack Walker getting away with it because he was white ignored the fact that there were no rules by which to judge him, and that would have been the same whether he was white, black or skyblue bloody pink. I didn't "choose" anything, you chose to make it about race when race was irrelevant because no rules were in place.