BlueRockape
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What gets me is after a great win at WH we had nine days to prepare for that shite
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The-Dogs-Pollocks
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It was a poor performance second half. However I thought we did okay in the first, Should of had a pen and made more of the opportunities we had.
What is worrying is the way we stopped playing at 2-0 down and the fact our defence is non existent.
Obviously there is a lot of negativity about after this result. But we need to remember that a week ago we put in our best performance of the season and stuffed the hammers 5 nowt. We show glimpses of what could be. Let yet another soft goal in and then go to pieces.
I know kun wasn't on form yeterday, but the same could be said for the whole team. He showed against west ham why he is still the top striker in the prem. The critisicm he gets is way over the top.
To be honest, I expected us to be playing much better with the money spent and the squad we have. However, I have seen just enough in recent performances to give me hope that we will eventually come good!
In any case, Guardiola will not be sacked, so we need to try and keep faith with him. Even if we finish outside the top 4. I think the club will stick with him.
What is worrying is the way we stopped playing at 2-0 down and the fact our defence is non existent.
Obviously there is a lot of negativity about after this result. But we need to remember that a week ago we put in our best performance of the season and stuffed the hammers 5 nowt. We show glimpses of what could be. Let yet another soft goal in and then go to pieces.
I know kun wasn't on form yeterday, but the same could be said for the whole team. He showed against west ham why he is still the top striker in the prem. The critisicm he gets is way over the top.
To be honest, I expected us to be playing much better with the money spent and the squad we have. However, I have seen just enough in recent performances to give me hope that we will eventually come good!
In any case, Guardiola will not be sacked, so we need to try and keep faith with him. Even if we finish outside the top 4. I think the club will stick with him.
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Shit I want to feel part of @clive manchester quote gang.
The-Dogs-Pollocks
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I'm with you mate. Whatever the reason, (I suspect his confidence is completely shot) he is not performing well enough to play in goal for us. Thought he could have done better for three of the four goals yesterday. Willy deserves to be first choice now.
Agreed Bravo needs dropping as he has gone to pieces. I really think Pep should swallow his pride and get big Joe back. Think it would lift the whole club and help shore up the defence. Whatever he does, Bravo should not start against spurs.
Difficult trying to put on a smile today- that last 30minutes yesterday was rather soul destroying.
I'm not surprised teams are scoring against us with their first or second attempt. Their back six held firm and when they broke Lukaku just held the ball up well enough for them to get good 3 on 3 opportunities (Bravo is very poor at 1 on 1, I hope Pep sees that soon.)
If we had had as many 'good' 3 on 3 opportunities as them it'd be West Ham all over again. We struggled to carve out any real chances against West Ham (except for Zabs early blocked chance) until the penalty. Then they attacked and we did to them what Everton did to us - broke fast and were fairly clinical. The 5-0 score line glossed over the first 30minutes imho.
I don't know what the answers are, it's easy for us to see in black and white but anyone who's worked in a team will know it's never that simple.
Pep wants us to be Barca 2.0, but maybe the goal should be to be Manchester City 2012 2.0 instead. I don't know, I doubt any of us do know.
But I will look back to pre season. At that point, without a ball kicked, I expected us to finish 4th this year and I don't see why that won't happen.
Chin up blues!
I'm not surprised teams are scoring against us with their first or second attempt. Their back six held firm and when they broke Lukaku just held the ball up well enough for them to get good 3 on 3 opportunities (Bravo is very poor at 1 on 1, I hope Pep sees that soon.)
If we had had as many 'good' 3 on 3 opportunities as them it'd be West Ham all over again. We struggled to carve out any real chances against West Ham (except for Zabs early blocked chance) until the penalty. Then they attacked and we did to them what Everton did to us - broke fast and were fairly clinical. The 5-0 score line glossed over the first 30minutes imho.
I don't know what the answers are, it's easy for us to see in black and white but anyone who's worked in a team will know it's never that simple.
Pep wants us to be Barca 2.0, but maybe the goal should be to be Manchester City 2012 2.0 instead. I don't know, I doubt any of us do know.
But I will look back to pre season. At that point, without a ball kicked, I expected us to finish 4th this year and I don't see why that won't happen.
Chin up blues!
PaulMoulden'sRecord
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To be fair they said the same about him before he went to Bayern. The biggest difference for me is here he doesn't have anywhere near the same class of player to work with. A 'good' manager improves players within a unit and performances improve with this........he's being found wanting in this regard so far.Pep is overrated, One dimensional. This is not Braca or Bayern.
Can't wait for joe hart to be sold and for all the club and fans to finally move on. No more pining for the English overrated keeper who have been dropped by out last three managers and had clanger after clanger in the euros. You fellas need to let go. It's not happening.
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I think City try to be too perfect and walk the ball into the net. I saw it in our last game, and it was the same yesterday, only yesterday Everton had a bit more bottle, probably because of the fearless nature of our youngsters who will never forget the day. You had a few changes and maybe were a bit indecisive, certainly Sterling and Silva spring to mind. Sané who caused us so many problems last time didn't play. Good tactics from Koeman who's had a bit of stick but we've been decent for 6-8 games now after a bad patch. I don't do gloating, so only popped in to wish you luck for the season, and all the best.
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The goals conceded vs shots on our goal stat is unbelievable. I've not seen anything like that. We're just conceding so many goals yet not actually conceding many chances. That's bad luck as well as dire defending. In combination with that, we're taking 10 attempts before we score. All the build up tends to be good, it's the final ball or the shot that is lacking.
Pep needs to get training drills nailing the final ball and some shooting practice for Silva, Sterling etc. I like the balance of the side going forward but there's always one too many passes. Nolito doesn't offer as much in build up terms generally but he's happy to have a shot on goal. Sometimes that's just what you need. Sterling and Silva would prefer to pass than shoot.
Jesus' arrival is so needed to inject some positivity. Sane needs to come back in too, he was looking lively before his injury. We need Kompany back more than ever and Aleix Garcia needs to come in ahead of Zabba. Our defence are stepping out to win the ball because our midfield aren't covering the space well enough.
Pep needs to get training drills nailing the final ball and some shooting practice for Silva, Sterling etc. I like the balance of the side going forward but there's always one too many passes. Nolito doesn't offer as much in build up terms generally but he's happy to have a shot on goal. Sometimes that's just what you need. Sterling and Silva would prefer to pass than shoot.
Jesus' arrival is so needed to inject some positivity. Sane needs to come back in too, he was looking lively before his injury. We need Kompany back more than ever and Aleix Garcia needs to come in ahead of Zabba. Our defence are stepping out to win the ball because our midfield aren't covering the space well enough.
You mean apart from Burnley a few weeks ago.
Or Watford last season?
Or am I being whooshed? - Ah must the the whoosh bit as we even won at Klanfield from a losing position in that time.
Yes Pal, this was picked up a long while back and I clarified it then. The stat is we haven't come back to win when we have been losing at half time in an away PL match since 1995. It was the half time bit I missed out