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Everton Vs City Post Game Discussion thread
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Jumanji said:I couldn't see Blackburn and Newcastle beating the rags.bluemonkey71 said:St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:Can you honestly see Chelsea beating the rags...not for me. We need to stop relying on other results and concentrate on our own.
Maybe, maybe not but we are first to play so a win will put the pressure on them. United winning that game is not a foregone conclusion though.
I also couldn't see Everton beating us.
look just how well we played there last year and lost...I treat Everton away as one of our toughest games...The Everton supporters will not see that much passion from the players at home again until our next visit..
bluemonkey71
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Re: I'm sorry but I can't accept this
Exactly. Common sense prevails. He will give the boys a good rollicking in the dressing room then move on.
He takes it on the chin for the team. The press have a go at him and the players get on with it.
samharris said:beano46 said:That's just outrageous, watching that has just made me lose all faith in Mancini and makes me wonder if he really gives a shit.
See !!,,Bob has deflected the blame from the team and onto himself for you..
1-0 Bob. ;)
Exactly. Common sense prevails. He will give the boys a good rollicking in the dressing room then move on.
He takes it on the chin for the team. The press have a go at him and the players get on with it.
Re: That was a fukn disgrace tonight.
As daft as it sounds, we need to stop this attitude of 'we'are still top everything is going to be okay'.
I dont think its a crisis just yet, but the way we have been playing away from home since December has been dreadful. We can't pick up just two points from West Brom, Sunderland and Everton if we want to be Champions.
As much as I would like to, believe me, blame Walton for the defeat - we only have ourselves to blame.
Pass,pass,pass,pass,pass,pass,pass,pass,pass,passs, lose the ball.
Was pretty much the story of the night.
We are crying out for a plan B. Even starting Kolorov on the left hand side of midfield to give us some width wouldn't be the worse thing in the world.
The lack of pace throughout the team is frightening. On the rare occasions where Everton commited men forward, lost the ball, and then we breaked, by the time we were anywhere in a dangerous posistion we had allowed Everton to get their customy 11 men back behind the ball.
The pressure is getting to both Bobby and the team. We will never get a better chance to win the league and we are slowly throwing it away.
Thourght Barry was abysmal last night - and Im usually his biggest fan - far far too slow and turning his back on a shot (again) is cowardice of the highest order.
Can't agree with people saying that Dzeko puts a shift in. If the pass isnt within 5 yards of him, he doesn't bother trying. Thats inexcusable.
Need more from Sergio too.
As daft as it sounds, we need to stop this attitude of 'we'are still top everything is going to be okay'.
I dont think its a crisis just yet, but the way we have been playing away from home since December has been dreadful. We can't pick up just two points from West Brom, Sunderland and Everton if we want to be Champions.
As much as I would like to, believe me, blame Walton for the defeat - we only have ourselves to blame.
Pass,pass,pass,pass,pass,pass,pass,pass,pass,passs, lose the ball.
Was pretty much the story of the night.
We are crying out for a plan B. Even starting Kolorov on the left hand side of midfield to give us some width wouldn't be the worse thing in the world.
The lack of pace throughout the team is frightening. On the rare occasions where Everton commited men forward, lost the ball, and then we breaked, by the time we were anywhere in a dangerous posistion we had allowed Everton to get their customy 11 men back behind the ball.
The pressure is getting to both Bobby and the team. We will never get a better chance to win the league and we are slowly throwing it away.
Thourght Barry was abysmal last night - and Im usually his biggest fan - far far too slow and turning his back on a shot (again) is cowardice of the highest order.
Can't agree with people saying that Dzeko puts a shift in. If the pass isnt within 5 yards of him, he doesn't bother trying. Thats inexcusable.
Need more from Sergio too.
Stoned Rose
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Re: That was a fukn disgrace tonight.
A worrying and unacceptable trend is this propensity to drop points away to teams that are frankly shit - Everton, Sunderland, Fulham, West Brom. That's 12 fuckin points. Even 2 wins would give us 6 and we'd be 6 clear today.
The second worrying thing is that we simply have zero width. This means all our play is 'same-ish' and therefore predictable. I said earlier in the season (when everything was rosy) that championship winning teams score a variety of goals (long ball, crosses from the byeline, free kicks, corners, shots from outside the box, 'bundled' type goals etc etc). We dont. Our approach is ALWAYS this slow tippy tappy central stuff. There doesnt seem to be a Plan B.
Thirdly the lack of an incoming striker or winger in this window. We clearly need some fresh ideas up front. Dzeko is clearly absolute wank and any of you still refusing to accept this dont understand football. He is miles out of his depth. RM should've have bought someone in. Utd did a similar thing with Larsson a few years back. Spurs have just been very shrewd bringing in Saha. We should've done something similar.
However, Utd and Spurs both have some very testing games coming up and in 2 games time we may be clear again.
Yes, mistakes are being made by the club/RM but there is still a loooonnnngggg way to go. Get behind the boys :)
A worrying and unacceptable trend is this propensity to drop points away to teams that are frankly shit - Everton, Sunderland, Fulham, West Brom. That's 12 fuckin points. Even 2 wins would give us 6 and we'd be 6 clear today.
The second worrying thing is that we simply have zero width. This means all our play is 'same-ish' and therefore predictable. I said earlier in the season (when everything was rosy) that championship winning teams score a variety of goals (long ball, crosses from the byeline, free kicks, corners, shots from outside the box, 'bundled' type goals etc etc). We dont. Our approach is ALWAYS this slow tippy tappy central stuff. There doesnt seem to be a Plan B.
Thirdly the lack of an incoming striker or winger in this window. We clearly need some fresh ideas up front. Dzeko is clearly absolute wank and any of you still refusing to accept this dont understand football. He is miles out of his depth. RM should've have bought someone in. Utd did a similar thing with Larsson a few years back. Spurs have just been very shrewd bringing in Saha. We should've done something similar.
However, Utd and Spurs both have some very testing games coming up and in 2 games time we may be clear again.
Yes, mistakes are being made by the club/RM but there is still a loooonnnngggg way to go. Get behind the boys :)
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Re: That was a fukn disgrace tonight.
We've had it. Gonna win nothing
We've had it. Gonna win nothing
the blue panther
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I know its difficult to keep going in to areas where you're going to get tackled and possibly hurt but it seems to me that we miss a trick at places like Everton in particular.
The game is always physical and we should make it more so - not by hard tackling them as, with twats like Walton about, we would just get booked and sent off - by Silva, Nasri and the others who can dribble actually going at and round them more, to invite even more fouls. The way they play, they would have clattered into our players a few more times and - eventually I hope - got themselves into the book. I think they had just 1 booking against Drenthe didn't they for that high challenge on Micah.
Also, why does Micah have to be the nice guy all the time? He was pulled down by Drenthe twice in the first half, then got up to have a nice, pleasant exchange with him each time, and when the high challenge got him in the second half, he was up on his feet virtually immadiately. I mean, we've got to fight fire with fire - stay down Micah. Make the ref know you're hurt. Drenthe should have already been in the book in the 1st half and sent off for the high challenge in the 2nd.
Also, on my first point about dribbling, did anyone try to dribble through past Hibbert and Heitinger? They would have pulled down anyone to stop them getting in the box, but, we passed and fannied around instead of going through the heart of them. I know they had 2 solid banks of 4 but no one tried dribbling through and inviting fouls in dangerous areas.
At the end of the day, credit to Everton. Executed their game plan perfectly with an absolutely shit looking team - the worst team we've played against. Sadly, on the few occasions when they attacked, they looked more likely to score than we did. Their fans must have been shitting themselves at the thought of Hibbert and Heitinger in central defence. They got away with it against our superstars, and that's the most galling thing for me - we barely threatened them.
Not quite, "Un- bel-ievable Jeff!" because it was Everton away and that's what City do, no matter what personel either team puts out - it's always the same. Roll on Saturday and let the run in begin then with the start of our next winning run.
The game is always physical and we should make it more so - not by hard tackling them as, with twats like Walton about, we would just get booked and sent off - by Silva, Nasri and the others who can dribble actually going at and round them more, to invite even more fouls. The way they play, they would have clattered into our players a few more times and - eventually I hope - got themselves into the book. I think they had just 1 booking against Drenthe didn't they for that high challenge on Micah.
Also, why does Micah have to be the nice guy all the time? He was pulled down by Drenthe twice in the first half, then got up to have a nice, pleasant exchange with him each time, and when the high challenge got him in the second half, he was up on his feet virtually immadiately. I mean, we've got to fight fire with fire - stay down Micah. Make the ref know you're hurt. Drenthe should have already been in the book in the 1st half and sent off for the high challenge in the 2nd.
Also, on my first point about dribbling, did anyone try to dribble through past Hibbert and Heitinger? They would have pulled down anyone to stop them getting in the box, but, we passed and fannied around instead of going through the heart of them. I know they had 2 solid banks of 4 but no one tried dribbling through and inviting fouls in dangerous areas.
At the end of the day, credit to Everton. Executed their game plan perfectly with an absolutely shit looking team - the worst team we've played against. Sadly, on the few occasions when they attacked, they looked more likely to score than we did. Their fans must have been shitting themselves at the thought of Hibbert and Heitinger in central defence. They got away with it against our superstars, and that's the most galling thing for me - we barely threatened them.
Not quite, "Un- bel-ievable Jeff!" because it was Everton away and that's what City do, no matter what personel either team puts out - it's always the same. Roll on Saturday and let the run in begin then with the start of our next winning run.
Re: That was a fukn disgrace tonight.
What would be your plan 'B' to open up a ten man defence ??
A packed defence although not pretty is normally a hard nut to crack,even more so away from home...It needs a tad of luck to break through and we didnt get any..They did the same at the Etihad but Balos deflected strike got us the goal,Everton had to come out after that which led to our second.
If packed defences were easily breached then no team would play that way but they arent easily breached,so teams adopt that tactic.
Richard said:As daft as it sounds, we need to stop this attitude of 'we'are still top everything is going to be okay'.
I dont think its a crisis just yet, but the way we have been playing away from home since December has been dreadful. We can't pick up just two points from West Brom, Sunderland and Everton if we want to be Champions.
As much as I would like to, believe me, blame Walton for the defeat - we only have ourselves to blame.
Pass,pass,pass,pass,pass,pass,pass,pass,pass,passs, lose the ball.
Was pretty much the story of the night.
We are crying out for a plan B. Even starting Kolorov on the left hand side of midfield to give us some width wouldn't be the worse thing in the world.
The lack of pace throughout the team is frightening. On the rare occasions where Everton commited men forward, lost the ball, and then we breaked, by the time we were anywhere in a dangerous posistion we had allowed Everton to get their customy 11 men back behind the ball.
The pressure is getting to both Bobby and the team. We will never get a better chance to win the league and we are slowly throwing it away.
Thourght Barry was abysmal last night - and Im usually his biggest fan - far far too slow and turning his back on a shot (again) is cowardice of the highest order.
Can't agree with people saying that Dzeko puts a shift in. If the pass isnt within 5 yards of him, he doesn't bother trying. Thats inexcusable.
Need more from Sergio too.
What would be your plan 'B' to open up a ten man defence ??
A packed defence although not pretty is normally a hard nut to crack,even more so away from home...It needs a tad of luck to break through and we didnt get any..They did the same at the Etihad but Balos deflected strike got us the goal,Everton had to come out after that which led to our second.
If packed defences were easily breached then no team would play that way but they arent easily breached,so teams adopt that tactic.
SoDakBlue said:We were not up to our usual free-flowing form, no argument there. But matches like this come down to a few chances. And Walton made sure those chances didn't happen.
Nail well and truly hit on the head