F1 Season 2021

[dadnlad]

I'll believe it when I see it.

Is there any trendy streets in America that have something similar that people can use?

i live on eleventh floor flat will i get extension lead or have to use peasant catcher in future days

 

[give it to gordon]

Hydrogen is far more environmental sound than electric. As F1 technology tends to bleed into mainstream vehicles its good news I think.

Agree I do find it odd how people think electric cars are the future. Hydrogen cars are the future and I am not even a car nut or save the plant nut. I am just a nut !!

 

[denislawsbackheel]

FFS
Vettel turns up to talk to school kids about environmental sustainability in a Ferrari!

 

[crooky]

FFS
Vettel turns up to talk to school kids about environmental sustainability in a Ferrari!

To be fair a current F1 powertrain is actually more efficient than a Toyota Prius powertrain. But I don't suppose he turned up in his old race car?

 

[mccity]

What's the deal with tyres on weekends like these?

 

[BimboBob]

But who is researching hydrogen engines as a going concern for motor vehicles? As you say F1 tends to bleed into mainstream vehicles but, as far as I am aware, there aren't any.

Already doing it. There's hydrogen chargers in California. A few manufacturers are developing hydrogen cars.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Already doing it. There's hydrogen chargers in California. A few manufacturers are developing hydrogen cars.

The thing I can’t get my head around is how they can make them safe. I recognise petrol is highly flammable, but hydrogen explodes when exposed to oxygen. Perfect for a fuel cell, less than ideal if hit by another car in the wrong spot.

 

[mccity]

lol

 

[27172]

The thing I can’t get my head around is how they can make them safe. I recognise petrol is highly flammable, but hydrogen explodes when exposed to oxygen. Perfect for a fuel cell, less than ideal if hit by another car in the wrong spot.

hydrogen behaves differently from gasoline. But generally it is about as safe as the gasoline we now put in most vehicles' fuel tanks. In fact, the average gasoline tank holds three to four times the energy — and thus three to four times the explosive power — of the hydrogen tanks that the first fuel-cell electric vehicles will be using.


Hydrogen is the lightest of the elements, approximately 14 times lighter than air. So even though it is highly flammable, escaped hydrogen (burning or not) dissipates quickly and typically in a narrow column shooting straight up into the atmosphere.


Its vapors don't pool on the ground, as do gasoline's heavier-than-air vapors. So in most cases, hydrogen doesn't present as great a fire or explosive danger. To further minimize the potential for explosion, almost all hydrogen fuel stations store the gas above the ground in well-vented areas.


The University of California at Irvine has operated a public hydrogen station for a dozen years without incident, says Carl Baust, alternative energy projects specialist for the Orange County Fire Authority. Several other hydrogen stations opened in Southern California and the Sacramento area to fuel test the vehicles that have been plying the state's highways since 2002. So far, they also have been incident-free.


The vehicles themselves have arrays of hydrogen sensors that sound alarms and seal valves and fuel lines in case of a hydrogen leak. Additionally, the pressurized tanks that hold the hydrogen have been tested repeatedly and found to be safe in collisions.


One test involves firing live ammunition into the tanks to pierce them. Pierced tanks typically vent their hydrogen so quickly that even if the gas catches fire it is out of the tank before explosive pressure could build up.


In 2001, researchers at the University Of Miami's College of Engineering set fire to the hydrogen in a tank mounted in an SUV and later punctured the fuel line on a conventional gasoline-powered vehicle and set the leaking gas on fire. The burning hydrogen versus gasoline test showed that flames caused "severe" damage to the gasoline vehicle, whereas the hydrogen vehicle was undamaged because the burning hydrogen gas vented up and away from the vehicle.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

hydrogen behaves differently from gasoline. But generally it is about as safe as the gasoline we now put in most vehicles' fuel tanks. In fact, the average gasoline tank holds three to four times the energy — and thus three to four times the explosive power — of the hydrogen tanks that the first fuel-cell electric vehicles will be using.


Hydrogen is the lightest of the elements, approximately 14 times lighter than air. So even though it is highly flammable, escaped hydrogen (burning or not) dissipates quickly and typically in a narrow column shooting straight up into the atmosphere.


Its vapors don't pool on the ground, as do gasoline's heavier-than-air vapors. So in most cases, hydrogen doesn't present as great a fire or explosive danger. To further minimize the potential for explosion, almost all hydrogen fuel stations store the gas above the ground in well-vented areas.


The University of California at Irvine has operated a public hydrogen station for a dozen years without incident, says Carl Baust, alternative energy projects specialist for the Orange County Fire Authority. Several other hydrogen stations opened in Southern California and the Sacramento area to fuel test the vehicles that have been plying the state's highways since 2002. So far, they also have been incident-free.


The vehicles themselves have arrays of hydrogen sensors that sound alarms and seal valves and fuel lines in case of a hydrogen leak. Additionally, the pressurized tanks that hold the hydrogen have been tested repeatedly and found to be safe in collisions.


One test involves firing live ammunition into the tanks to pierce them. Pierced tanks typically vent their hydrogen so quickly that even if the gas catches fire it is out of the tank before explosive pressure could build up.


In 2001, researchers at the University Of Miami's College of Engineering set fire to the hydrogen in a tank mounted in an SUV and later punctured the fuel line on a conventional gasoline-powered vehicle and set the leaking gas on fire. The burning hydrogen versus gasoline test showed that flames caused "severe" damage to the gasoline vehicle, whereas the hydrogen vehicle was undamaged because the burning hydrogen gas vented up and away from the vehicle.

Thanks for posting this. I went on a Google search after my post to read up more on it and the bullet test did show how safe it is likely to be.

I then saw there are 3 hydrogen fuel cell cars available on Autotrader.

As it seems very safe, I can’t see electric being the future, barring any cost factor.