FA Cup Final - Post Game thread

Still fucking fuming about Madley and VAR for our "penalties".

Ref gives nothing 'cause he wants to leave it to VAR to give the correct decision, VAR look at it and say not enough to overturn the ref's "decision". What fucking decision?????????

Penalty and red card after about a minute.

Penalty and red card midway through the second half.

Do your fucking jobs you cluless cheating fucking wankers, we were shit but you lot were shitter. Twats!
 
Salford in the City said:
But, in spite of all that, it hurts to get beat by them today.

If that doesn't cut to your heart, you're not a true blue.
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Salford in the City said:
But, in spite of all that, it hurts to get beat by them today.

If that doesn't cut to your heart, you're not a true blue.
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Behave
13/05/12 said:
The first half hour was a nothing game. We gifted the opening goal but I was still calm as I believed it would be a wake up call. The second goal was a killer blow as it gave them something to sit back on for the rest of the game. We huffed and puffed in the 2nd but the goal was too late. I feel if Alvarez puts his away there was enough time to patiently claw back the next. Haaland cracked the bar and a few balls fizzed through that on another day someone puts it away.

It is a gutting end to a great season. Ultimately our success is defined by leagues and we still got it done while under immense pressure. Was it wise to have players out on the lash going into a final? Probably not but then I respect the ebbs and flows of this title race has been a bottled up feeling of "we can not drop a single point" for weeks and that was relief that it was all over. For the other lot this game was their be all and end all.
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Absolutely spot on analogy. I love Alvarez, but he's gotta score that.
 
Staying over in Hillingdon, pub/hotel full of Blues not a rag in sight. Thought we got our first 11 wrong, Stones and Ake starting over Dias and Akanji was a mistake and with Kovacic and Rodri starting it negates the need for Stones stepping into midfield. There should be no sentiment in football. Hopefully the team will look at themselves and ask how the hell this rag team beat us and use it to push on next season again. Went into Boxpark after the game and had a riot for 2 hours dancing, singing and celebrating. Back to the hotel and its been the same here, blues laughing and pissed up. Yes nobody wanted to lose to the worst Rag team in Premier League history but if there's one thing us Blues know how to do best, that's how to celebrate a defeat. Now lets go and make it 5 in a row.
 
I feared for this kinda loss the last 8 or so games of the season, but it never came.

Am I glad it came in a cup game against the Rags? No. But do I prefer it came now over any other time in the s
Run in? I suppose, yes.


That's said, there's a postmortem to had here and this loss puts us in the correct mindset about the season.


We won the league because we developed a champions mentality and a well seasoned run-in DNA.

Some of our best players just kept stepping up in the run - in, but it finally was a step too far.

Great season: Happy as can be. That title run was epic. And nothing can bring me down from that high.

But my season ends report shall follow:
 
the-ecstacy-of-eight said:
Still fucking fuming about Madley and VAR for our "penalties".

Ref gives nothing 'cause he wants to leave it to VAR to give the correct decision, VAR look at it and say not enough to overturn the ref's "decision". What fucking decision?????????

Penalty and red card after about a minute.

Penalty and red card midway through the second half.

Do your fucking jobs you cluless cheating fucking wankers, we were shit but you lot were shitter. Twats!
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Didn’t think either were penalty’s tbh , each to their own opinion obviously but if either had been given against us I’d be furious.
Football would be shit if it was predictable and being on the wrong end of a defeat like that makes the winning taste so much better whe we do 5 in a row next year.
 
I'm With Stupid said:
Yeah, but it usually happens before the final. Once you get to the final, the better team really should be turning up. All the motivation you need is there. If we'd spent the whole game peppering their goal and the goalkeeper played a blinder and they'd won with a lucky breakaway, then fair enough. But that was shite.
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We were massively below our best but had twice as many shots as them with 75 per cent possession.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
Win or lose, it doesn't make the journey home from Wembley any quicker or slower.

Today pretty well summed up our season in many ways. Pedestrian build up, no movement, even being brainless at times. It was like watching a Subbuteo game. One player moving with the ball while the rest stopped still. Where is the incisive movement, the runs into the half channels? When Doku was on the ball another player came over to double up with his marker. That left a gap in what used to be called the inside left channel for a City player to go into but no one moved for him and he had to do it all himself. Where was the movement and passing that led to Sané scoring that incredible goal at Arsenal? Where's the dynamism gone? I struggle to see how we won the title sometimes.

KDB has been a shadow of the player he was. Bernardo has been very pedestrian most of the season. Foden has carried us but had a very poor game today. And unless we were trying to help Poundland Pep keep his job, why start a very rusty Ake & Stones in a final? Haaland's technique, or lack of it, pisses me off, as well as his propensity to stroll around and exhibit no urgency to close down. You do wonder if too many players have become too complacent. Pep needs to look everyone in the eye this summer and decide if they've got the fight in them.
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Just won 4 in a row the year after a treble having gone 35 games without defeat.

The only thing brainless on show is your own comments.

Beyond ignorant.
 
Just got in bed. What an absolute travesty of a performance by our boys. No words can describe the gut-wrenching feeling. Long day out. Absolutely gutted. Feel empty.
 
City Hobgoblin said:
Winning the league is absolutely the number one target.

However, seeing the array of BaconFace, Non-Dom Brexity Ratcliffe and the Elmer Fudds getting all mutually congratulatory made me want to chuck up.
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The fact they get 100 times the press fawning adulation for spawning a domestic cup than we did for a treble shows how hated we are, god help us if they ever win the league or CL again.
 
Season's End Report: Now the Postmortem

Great season, agreed. But with a look to improving in the next. We have great challenges coming both locally in Arsenal ( there is a sense of inevitably to their rise) but I want a fight. And we have an even greater foe in Real Madrid on the continent that we need to slay. And not to forget new kids on the block in Germany, Xabi's men, amongst others... So improve WE MUST!

I'm going to be blunt in my analysis: And I understand there is some recency bias involved. But here goes:


In midfield:
1. Foden is now the main # 8. Over Kevin and over everyone else. It is his team now. Everyone needs to get used to that. It's hard when you still have an attacking legend ( Kev) still on the squad. But it's time to acknowledge It's Phil's time. Let's respect the uncomfortableness of that change.

2. We need to pick up a 2nd #8 type.( Musiala and Wirtz being the 2 best examples I can think of). Someone that will compete with Kevin for the other #8 position. Or better yet, Kevin should be the (Strategic big game starter) but play considerably fewer minutes against the run of the mill teams. (Thus, keeping him fresh and healthy). The new starter and Foden should start most pp

3. In away tough games, Kevin/ (Musiala/Wirtz) go to the bench and a Defensive Mid( i.e Rodri's understudy comes in and plays next to Rodri)@ and we only play one attacking mid to start: Foden.

On the wings:
Doku starts at left wing. I know many have a few issues here and there with him. But he has arrived. He is the terror on the left. Even if his mistakes still persist, with a year under his belt, you can expect improvements across the board plus that natural dynamism that can't be coached ( and hopefully doesn't get coached out of him).

We need a similar player to Doku on the right. I.e. a scary attack the defender type terror. Some think that player is Savio, I'm not convinced. He doesn't have that edge. But I'm not a scout, I could be wrong. But whoever we get, he shouldn't be some all round good player who's not great at anything. We need someone who's explosive and dynamic Right now for me that guy is a question mark. I haven't seen him yet nor do I have anyone in mind that fits. We need to find that guy

On Defense::
The 5 CBs stay put. Get an attacking LB for games when we need more firepower late and for cup games... Gvardiol probably plays LB most of next year before he finally edges out one of the older CBs ( Stones/ Ake) in 2 years. So we should be grooming or at a minimum auditioning the future LB now. At RB, a backup skilled RB to challenge Walker and supplant our Captain by mid season should be the goal

In Goal:

Try to Keep Eddy and Ortega and run it back. They are a fantastic duo to have.

Striker. Run it back with Haaland,, and bring in a young backup striker with, preferably, a considerable amount speed and close control.. When Haaland can't play, we should intend to overwhelm the opposition with speed.

Now to the more contentious positions: Forgive my hubris here, I mean no insult..

1. I'll try to sell Julian and Jack At a minimum one of them. I expect Bernardo and Bobb to join Doku and a yet to be named right sided winger as the 4-some wide players. However, If Bernardo goes then Jack can stay. But either way, I want to move Julian on. Good player but the freshening up is best accomplished at his expense.

2. I'd move on Kola, Nunez also. Or send em out on loan. Both good players, but I want 1 player in for those 2. Bruno Guimares (spl) is the ideal type guy but there are others. Big tall strong great passing. There are a fair fee of these guys get one. Play with Rodri I. The tough games, play in place of Rosri for rest or suspension. And come in to close games we are leading in.

3. Id loan out Lewis. He needs to play way more to develop into the stud he needs to be for us. I see him as a backup RB with good technique. I'd like to give an opportunity to someone who can potentially beat out Kyle next season. I don't think Lewis can. So loan out to improve. Bring in Kyle's competition/Future replacement. And bring Lewis back in 1 year to be the #2 RB.

Then get ready for the Challengers and to challenge a Madrid who's be even more dangerous than they were this season and the seemingly inevitable Gunners on our heels


That's all folks
 
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Dax777 said:
Season's End Report: Now the Postmortem

Great season, agreed. But with a look to improving in the next. We have great challenges coming both locally in Arsenal ( There is a sense of inevitably to their rise) but I want a fight. And we have an even greater for in Real Madrid on the continent that we need to slay. And the new kids on the block in Germany amongst others... So improve WR MUST!

I'm going to be blunt in my analysis: And I understand there is some recency bias involved. Here but here goes:


In midfield:
1. Foden is now the main # 8. Over Kevin and over everyone else. It is his team now. Everyone needs to get used to that. It's hard when you still have an attacking legend ( Kevin(, still on the squad.around. .But it's time to acknowledge it. It's Phil's time now. Let's respect it.

2. We need to pick up a 2nd 8 ( Musiala and Wirtz) being the 2 best examples I can think of). Someone that will spell Kevin in the other 8 position. Or better yet, Kevin should be the ( Strategic big game starter) but play considerably fewer minutes against the run of the mill teams. (This keeping him fresh and healthy). The new starter and Foden should start most pp

3. In away tough games, Kevin/ (Musiala/Wirtz) go to the bench and a Defensive Mid( i.e Rodri's understudy comes in and plays next to Rodri)@ and we only play one attacking mid to start: Foden.

On the wings:
Doku starts at left wing. I know many have a few issues here and there with him. But he has arrived. He is the terror on the left. Even if his mistakes still persist, with a year under his belt, you can expect improvements across the board plus that natural dynamism that can't be coached ( and hopefully doesn't get coached out of him).

We need a similar player to Doku on the right. I.e. a scary attack the defender type terror. Some think that player is Savio, I'm not convinced. He doesn't have that edge. But I'm not a scout, I could be wrong. But whoever we get, he shouldn't be some all round good player who's not great at anything. We need someone who's explosive and dynamic Right now for me that guy is a question mark. I haven't seen him yet nor do I have anyone in mind that fits. We need to find that guy

On Defense::
The 5 CBs stay put. Get an attacking LB for games when we need more firepower late and for cup games... Gvardiol probably plays LB most of next year before he finally edges out one of the older CBs ( Stones/ Ake) in 2 years. So we should be grooming or at a minimum auditioning the future LB now. At RB, a backup skilled RB to challenge Walker and supplant our Captain by mid season should be the goal

In Goal:

Try to Keep Eddy and Ortega and run it back. They are a fantastic duo to have.

Striker. Run it back with Haaland,, and bring in a young backup striker with, preferably, a considerable amount speed and close control.. When Haaland can't play, we should intend to overwhelm the opposition with speed.

Now to the more contentious positions: Forgive my hubris here, I mean no insult..

1. I'll try to sell Julian and Jack At a minimum one of them. I expect Bernardo and Bobb to join Doku and a yet to be named right sided winger as the 4-some wide players. However, If Bernardo goes then Jack can stay. But either way, I want to move Julian on. Good player but the freshening up is best accomplished at his expense.

2. I'd move on Kola, Nunez also. Or send em out on loan. Both good players, but I want 1 player in for those 2. Bruno Guimares (spl) is the ideal type guy but there are others. Big tall strong great passing. There are a fair fee of these guys get one. Play with Rodri I. The tough games, play in place of Rosri for rest or suspension. And come in to close games we are leading in.

3. Id loan out Lewis. He needs to play way more to develop into the stud he needs to be for us. I see him as a backup RB with good technique. I'd like to give an opportunity to someone who can potentially beat out Kyle next season. I don't think Lewis can. So loan out to improve. Bring in Kyle's competition/Future replacement. And bring Lewis back in 1 year to be the #2 RB.

Then get ready for the Challengers and to challenge a Madrid who's be even more dangerous than they were this season and the seemingly inevitable Gunners on our heels


That's all folks
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Point 3: Rico out on loan, what the actual fuck?
 
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I’m sympathetic to the fans who traveled because it’s never fun to pay a lot of money and see a loss. And sympathetic to people who have to face the rags in person.

But Jesus, the social media abuse our players are taking is embarrassing. I hope this doesn’t spill over into the parade tomorrow and they are properly celebrated for four in a row.
 
Dax777 said:
Season's End Report: Now the Postmortem

Great season, agreed. But with a look to improving in the next. We have great challenges coming both locally in Arsenal ( there is a sense of inevitably to their rise) but I want a fight. And we have an even greater foe in Real Madrid on the continent that we need to slay. And not to forget new kids on the block in Germany, Xabi's men, amongst others... So improve WE MUST!

I'm going to be blunt in my analysis: And I understand there is some recency bias involved. But here goes:


In midfield:
1. Foden is now the main # 8. Over Kevin and over everyone else. It is his team now. Everyone needs to get used to that. It's hard when you still have an attacking legend ( Kev) still on the squad. But it's time to acknowledge It's Phil's time. Let's respect the uncomfortableness of that change.

2. We need to pick up a 2nd #8 type.( Musiala and Wirtz being the 2 best examples I can think of). Someone that will compete with Kevin for the other #8 position. Or better yet, Kevin should be the (Strategic big game starter) but play considerably fewer minutes against the run of the mill teams. (Thus, keeping him fresh and healthy). The new starter and Foden should start most pp

3. In away tough games, Kevin/ (Musiala/Wirtz) go to the bench and a Defensive Mid( i.e Rodri's understudy comes in and plays next to Rodri)@ and we only play one attacking mid to start: Foden.

On the wings:
Doku starts at left wing. I know many have a few issues here and there with him. But he has arrived. He is the terror on the left. Even if his mistakes still persist, with a year under his belt, you can expect improvements across the board plus that natural dynamism that can't be coached ( and hopefully doesn't get coached out of him).

We need a similar player to Doku on the right. I.e. a scary attack the defender type terror. Some think that player is Savio, I'm not convinced. He doesn't have that edge. But I'm not a scout, I could be wrong. But whoever we get, he shouldn't be some all round good player who's not great at anything. We need someone who's explosive and dynamic Right now for me that guy is a question mark. I haven't seen him yet nor do I have anyone in mind that fits. We need to find that guy

On Defense::
The 5 CBs stay put. Get an attacking LB for games when we need more firepower late and for cup games... Gvardiol probably plays LB most of next year before he finally edges out one of the older CBs ( Stones/ Ake) in 2 years. So we should be grooming or at a minimum auditioning the future LB now. At RB, a backup skilled RB to challenge Walker and supplant our Captain by mid season should be the goal

In Goal:

Try to Keep Eddy and Ortega and run it back. They are a fantastic duo to have.

Striker. Run it back with Haaland,, and bring in a young backup striker with, preferably, a considerable amount speed and close control.. When Haaland can't play, we should intend to overwhelm the opposition with speed.

Now to the more contentious positions: Forgive my hubris here, I mean no insult..

1. I'll try to sell Julian and Jack At a minimum one of them. I expect Bernardo and Bobb to join Doku and a yet to be named right sided winger as the 4-some wide players. However, If Bernardo goes then Jack can stay. But either way, I want to move Julian on. Good player but the freshening up is best accomplished at his expense.

2. I'd move on Kola, Nunez also. Or send em out on loan. Both good players, but I want 1 player in for those 2. Bruno Guimares (spl) is the ideal type guy but there are others. Big tall strong great passing. There are a fair fee of these guys get one. Play with Rodri I. The tough games, play in place of Rosri for rest or suspension. And come in to close games we are leading in.

3. Id loan out Lewis. He needs to play way more to develop into the stud he needs to be for us. I see him as a backup RB with good technique. I'd like to give an opportunity to someone who can potentially beat out Kyle next season. I don't think Lewis can. So loan out to improve. Bring in Kyle's competition/Future replacement. And bring Lewis back in 1 year to be the #2 RB.

Then get ready for the Challengers and to challenge a Madrid who's be even more dangerous than they were this season and the seemingly inevitable Gunners on our heels


That's all folks
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That won't be done in one transfer window and this summer isn't going to be that spectacular either.
 
Also, there is no better proof that an intense season like this can absolutely break a person (ie, the players) than some of the batshit crazy posts from today. The pressure post treble, the constant 115, peps future. It’s exhausting. If we’re this crazy/reactionary…and we didn’t even play these games…
 
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