Fabregas

LoveCity said:
They must have some encouragement from somewhere (Barca or the Cesc camp), no top club can be so stupid as to keep bidding if they know there is no chance of it happening.

Would be epic if the Cesc camp are playing United to get him an improved position of importance at Barca.

Its not designed to sign the player through mate - as soon as you realise that, their actions become plainly clear. That's why they're choosing to gob off so publicly about their Fabregas bids, whilst keeping quite about the rest of their business this summer.

Its all about publicity to show their US Shareholders they're still a Top Club, whilst they quietly go about the business of signing Baines and Fellaini - who are they actually intend to buy
 
Optimus Prime said:
Wait a second - let me get this straight.

So - Barca have received a £25 million bid for Fabregas, and have very publically come out and released a statement indicating that the player wants to stay, and that he is 'untransferable' - and we're seriously expected to believe that an extra £5 million is going to change that situation.

In terms of the fees being paid for players this summer, and over recent years, £5 million is not a great sum any more - certainly not enough to make a Club completely change their stance on one of their key players.

And United know this. You have to ask yourself why they are constantly briefing the press over the bids they are making for Fabregas, whilst they didn't do so with either Thiago or with their Baines bid. Its because this whole Fabregas fiasco is a marketing and publicity gimmick designed at appeasing their gullible, thick as pig shit fans and their US Shareholders - nothing more.

I imagine they are quite quietly going about the business of trying to sign Fellaini and Baines, whilst gobbing off to the world about their audacious, game changing £5 million improved bid which Barca will find it impossible to refuse.

Laughable from the Rags. If they're serious about convincing a Club to sell a player they want to keep - act like it and make them a genuinely game-changing offer - this bid certainly does not qualify as being at that level. The fact they they aren't doing this tells you everything you need to know about the intention of this bid.

They are a shambles this summer - the effect of losing the quality of both Ferguson and Gill in one go, and replacing them with dog average nonentities like Moyes and Woodward, is clear for all to see!

Not only that, making public that Fabregas MIGHT be available, makes other clubs sit up and they COULD get gazumped.
 
We oughtn't to get too comfortable with the idea united won't get him. Gollom will have been backed with some serious money, and if they get hold of this guy he'll make an enormous difference to an otherwise very poor midfield. They got away with it last season with Bacon Face's tactic of slinging the ball in from wide positions, but this time round they're going to need someone who can actually play in the middle. Let them sign that donkey with the big hair from Gollom's pub team, and they can have Baines too if it wastes a bit more of their money!
 
Marvin said:
jauganaut said:
If Txiki and Soriano are the men we think they are, then Fabregas will be not be a united a player in our lifetime :-)
There's absolutely no way Cesc could be available, and we don't get in on thst action.
Cesc will play for Pellegrini before Moyes.
With Navas, Silva and Negredo, he will feel at home.

Imagine Cesc, Dinho and Yaya in midfield.
The Fap of a lifetime.
Don't be ridiculous. We look after our own business

You forget that Arsenal have an option on the player should FCB accept a bid

If you intend to be condescending, at least try to do it with a water-tight argument.
Considering that we are still lacking a substantial amount of skill, despite reinforcement in the form of Fernandinho, in central midfield, it doesn't take rocket science to understand why we should throw our hat in the ring, as regards to Fabregas.
Infact we have inquired about a similar midfielder this summer, only to be informed of his status of availability, or lack thereof.
Therefore, if Cesc Fabregas is for sale, be rest assured that Manchester City will be contacted concerning his availability, and will get involved in this transaction, as will other elite clubs.
Why, you may ask?
Well, if you happen to pull your head out of your pretentious ass you'll understand that this will only serve to benefit Barcelona, if, as they claim, generation of transfer funds is their motivation.
 
Fellaini's buyout clause apparantly is 27.5m but that expires in a week or so. Maybe they can pursue the Fabregas deal until just before its expiry then go for him as the alternative. If not Everton could bump the price up substantially.
 
jauganaut said:
Marvin said:
jauganaut said:
If Txiki and Soriano are the men we think they are, then Fabregas will be not be a united a player in our lifetime :-)
There's absolutely no way Cesc could be available, and we don't get in on thst action.
Cesc will play for Pellegrini before Moyes.
With Navas, Silva and Negredo, he will feel at home.

Imagine Cesc, Dinho and Yaya in midfield.
The Fap of a lifetime.
Don't be ridiculous. We look after our own business

You forget that Arsenal have an option on the player should FCB accept a bid

If you intend to be condescending, at least try to do it with a water-tight argument.
Considering that we are still lacking a substantial amount of skill, despite reinforcement in the form of Fernandinho, in central midfield, it doesn't take rocket science to understand why we should throw our hat in the ring, as regards to Fabregas.
Infact we have inquired about a similar midfielder this summer, only to be informed of his status of availability, or lack thereof.
Therefore, if Cesc Fabregas is for sale, be rest assured that Manchester City will be contacted concerning his availability, and will get involved in this transaction, as will other elite clubs.
Why, you may ask?
Well, if you happen to pull your head out of your pretentious ass you'll understand that this will only serve to benefit Barcelona, if, as they claim, generation of transfer funds is their motivation.

An excellent point made about Fabregas: We would have to be in the ring for such a player if he seriously became available. It's almost as important to prevent certain players like him falling into our opponents hands as it is to sign them ourselves. Van Persie is the big lesson here!
 
jauganaut said:
Marvin said:
jauganaut said:
If Txiki and Soriano are the men we think they are, then Fabregas will be not be a united a player in our lifetime :-)
There's absolutely no way Cesc could be available, and we don't get in on thst action.
Cesc will play for Pellegrini before Moyes.
With Navas, Silva and Negredo, he will feel at home.

Imagine Cesc, Dinho and Yaya in midfield.
The Fap of a lifetime.
Don't be ridiculous. We look after our own business

You forget that Arsenal have an option on the player should FCB accept a bid

If you intend to be condescending, at least try to do it with a water-tight argument.
Considering that we are still lacking a substantial amount of skill, despite reinforcement in the form of Fernandinho, in central midfield, it doesn't take rocket science to understand why we should throw our hat in the ring, as regards to Fabregas.
Infact we have inquired about a similar midfielder this summer, only to be informed of his status of availability, or lack thereof.
Therefore, if Cesc Fabregas is for sale, be rest assured that Manchester City will be contacted concerning his availability, and will get involved in this transaction, as will other elite clubs.
Why, you may ask?
Well, if you happen to pull your head out of your pretentious ass you'll understand that this will only serve to benefit Barcelona, if, as they claim, generation of transfer funds is their motivation.

And therein lies your answer as to why its nonsense my personal opinion is that we dont need him despite your argument, he is a great player but i dont think he wants to play as part of a midfield 2, rather as part of a front 3 and their we are pretty much set, if he did go to united as part of a midfield 3 they would be very lightweight there but thats by the by. If he was to come to the prem and clubs knew he was available, you can be damn sure chelsea would be in for him with lampard getting older, and arsenal would be crying out for him wanting to pair him with wilshere, sure theyd still win bog all but it would appease the fans.

The question everyone must ask is why are they so quiet, can arsenal and chelski not afford it, they certainly can afford it, maybe they are so quiet because .they know its pointless.
 
mancboy123 said:
jauganaut said:
Marvin said:
Don't be ridiculous. We look after our own business

You forget that Arsenal have an option on the player should FCB accept a bid

If you intend to be condescending, at least try to do it with a water-tight argument.
Considering that we are still lacking a substantial amount of skill, despite reinforcement in the form of Fernandinho, in central midfield, it doesn't take rocket science to understand why we should throw our hat in the ring, as regards to Fabregas.
Infact we have inquired about a similar midfielder this summer, only to be informed of his status of availability, or lack thereof.
Therefore, if Cesc Fabregas is for sale, be rest assured that Manchester City will be contacted concerning his availability, and will get involved in this transaction, as will other elite clubs.
Why, you may ask?
Well, if you happen to pull your head out of your pretentious ass you'll understand that this will only serve to benefit Barcelona, if, as they claim, generation of transfer funds is their motivation.

And therein lies your answer as to why its nonsense my personal opinion is that we dont need him despite your argument, he is a great player but i dont think he wants to play as part of a midfield 2, rather as part of a front 3 and their we are pretty much set, if he did go to united as part of a midfield 3 they would be very lightweight there but thats by the by. If he was to come to the prem and clubs knew he was available, you can be damn sure chelsea would be in for him with lampard getting older, and arsenal would be crying out for him wanting to pair him with wilshere, sure theyd still win bog all but it would appease the fans.

The question everyone must ask is why are they so quiet, can arsenal and chelski not afford it, they certainly can afford it, maybe they are so quiet because .they know its pointless.

He can go to Arsenal, he can go to Chelsea, but please please not the Rags!! You'd soon change your mind about needing him if that happened! He is absolute class personified, and will change the outcome of any club's season, never mind what formations are used!!
 
mancboy123 said:
And therein lies your answer as to why its nonsense my personal opinion is that we dont need him despite your argument, he is a great player but i dont think he wants to play as part of a midfield 2, rather as part of a front 3 and their we are pretty much set, if he did go to united as part of a midfield 3 they would be very lightweight there but thats by the by. If he was to come to the prem and clubs knew he was available, you can be damn sure chelsea would be in for him with lampard getting older, and arsenal would be crying out for him wanting to pair him with wilshere, sure theyd still win bog all but it would appease the fans.

The question everyone must ask is why are they so quiet, can arsenal and chelski not afford it, they certainly can afford it, maybe they are so quiet because .they know its pointless.
I actually thought Barca completely wasted him by playing him in an advanced position or even as a striker or winger. His best days at Arsenal were in central midfield. I don't think he'll be moving this summer though.
 
Taken from Arsenal Mania

Arsenal negotiated a clause in Fábregas's contract when they sold him to Barcelona that gave them first refusal should he leave. Wenger suggested that they would be interested in him but he does not envisage it becoming an option. The Barcelona manager Tito Vilanova wants to keep Fábregas but it is understood that the club's board would be open to offers.

"Fábregas has decided to stay one more year at Barcelona," Wenger said, after Arsenal's 7-1 win over a Vietnam XI in Hanoi. "Unless he has changed his mind, I don't know … but that's what I've been told. We have the clause in the contract so we would be on alert but at the moment that's not something we're after."

Of course things may have changed because of Tito's relapse but one assumes the new manager will have his say on the player. Even if the board agree to sell it is evident Arsenal will want first dibs. May seem to suggest he is further away from the rags than maybe the papers think.
 

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