Federer v Tsonga

JMW Are you saying that if Murray had been born six years earlier he would now have 16 slams?

Or if Nadal had been born 5 years earlier he would have 26?
 
Markt85 said:
JoeMercer'sWay said:
Ntini77 said:
Haha! Good one.




it's true.

His grand slam wins:

Wimbledon-Philippoussis-03(says it all), Roddick-04(Limited, doesn't have the bottle either) & 05-(says it all that Roddick kept making finals), 06-Nadal(Nadal still developing but the signs were there) & 07(Nadal took him all the way, best Fed has played imho), Roddick-09(No way Roddick should have taken a supposed legend like Fed all the way like that),

Australia-Safin-04(says it all), Baghdatis-06(says it all again), Gonzalez-07(really Becker there), Murray-2010(Bottle job).

French-Soderling-09(Nadal injured, Soderling bottle job).

US-Hewitt-04(not the best by a distance), Agassi-05(fairytale, past his best), 06-Roddick(said it before), Djokovic-07(Novak developing, not the player he is now), Murray-08(bottle job apu).

Hardly a stellar cast of players there, just being decent but limited players and the top stars now when they were still young and developing, now they're growing to their peak he's getting beat regularly by at least one of them.




'' "For me, Roger is the greatest player ever to play the game. There is Roger, then Pete Sampras and Rod Laver."
Bjorn Borg -2010


'' We are witnessing history. This is the most dominant athlete on planet earth today.
Jim Courier, former world No.1 - 2007 ''


''What he’s done over the past five years has never, ever been done—and probably will never, ever happen again. Regardless if he won there or not, he goes down as the greatest ever. This just confirms it.''
Pete Sampras, winner of 14 Grand Slams - 2009


''His win today at the French Open, tying Pete Sampras’s record for major titles and the completion of a career grand slam firmly places him in a special place as the greatest player of all time. He has earned his place and he has proven he belongs. Roger is a champion for the ages. ''
Billie Jean King, winner of 39 Grand Slams - 2009


'' Roger Federer will undoubtedly become the greatest tennis player to have graced the sport if he wins the French Open. ''
Andre Agassi, the day before Federer winning 2009 French Open Final


''In my opinion he's the best player ever. When you play tennis, playing Federer is kind of a dream because you can see he does everything you would love to do on the court.''
Fabrice Santoro, played 20 of the 24 players to ever hold the No. 1 ranking


''Federer is the best player in history, no other player has ever had such quality.''
Rafael Nadal, after winning French Open 2006








JoeMercer
''He was only the best when there was no good challenger, now he has players like Djoko and Nadal it's shown him up to be what he is, just a good player who got lucky by having a weak era''
Internet warrior - 2011



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Game, set and match MarkT85
 
Joe is simply saying Federer has won 16 slams because he was "lucky" to be playing in a weak era. Despite practically every former top tennis player saying he's one of, if not the best there has ever been. I guess he knows better.
 
Markt85 said:
JoeMercer'sWay said:
Ntini77 said:
Haha! Good one.




it's true.

His grand slam wins:

Wimbledon-Philippoussis-03(says it all), Roddick-04(Limited, doesn't have the bottle either) & 05-(says it all that Roddick kept making finals), 06-Nadal(Nadal still developing but the signs were there) & 07(Nadal took him all the way, best Fed has played imho), Roddick-09(No way Roddick should have taken a supposed legend like Fed all the way like that),

Australia-Safin-04(says it all), Baghdatis-06(says it all again), Gonzalez-07(really Becker there), Murray-2010(Bottle job).

French-Soderling-09(Nadal injured, Soderling bottle job).

US-Hewitt-04(not the best by a distance), Agassi-05(fairytale, past his best), 06-Roddick(said it before), Djokovic-07(Novak developing, not the player he is now), Murray-08(bottle job apu).

Hardly a stellar cast of players there, just being decent but limited players and the top stars now when they were still young and developing, now they're growing to their peak he's getting beat regularly by at least one of them.




'' "For me, Roger is the greatest player ever to play the game. There is Roger, then Pete Sampras and Rod Laver."
Bjorn Borg -2010


'' We are witnessing history. This is the most dominant athlete on planet earth today.
Jim Courier, former world No.1 - 2007 ''


''What he’s done over the past five years has never, ever been done—and probably will never, ever happen again. Regardless if he won there or not, he goes down as the greatest ever. This just confirms it.''
Pete Sampras, winner of 14 Grand Slams - 2009


''His win today at the French Open, tying Pete Sampras’s record for major titles and the completion of a career grand slam firmly places him in a special place as the greatest player of all time. He has earned his place and he has proven he belongs. Roger is a champion for the ages. ''
Billie Jean King, winner of 39 Grand Slams - 2009


'' Roger Federer will undoubtedly become the greatest tennis player to have graced the sport if he wins the French Open. ''
Andre Agassi, the day before Federer winning 2009 French Open Final


''In my opinion he's the best player ever. When you play tennis, playing Federer is kind of a dream because you can see he does everything you would love to do on the court.''
Fabrice Santoro, played 20 of the 24 players to ever hold the No. 1 ranking


''Federer is the best player in history, no other player has ever had such quality.''
Rafael Nadal, after winning French Open 2006








JoeMercer
''He was only the best when there was no good challenger, now he has players like Djoko and Nadal it's shown him up to be what he is, just a good player who got lucky by having a weak era''
Internet warrior - 2011



picardFacePalm.jpg

says he who had to have a DNA Test to see if his bird was actually having his kid seeing as she slept around so she didn't know.

The fact he's won 16 distorts it to make him look the greatest and what do you expect other people to say? they have to keep their public image.

If this crop of players had been around 6-7 years ago at the same level when Fed was at his peak, Fed would have won quite a number less slams, and hence would not be the greatest, and would instead be looked at as a very good player in an excellent generation of tennis players, which he is. That's it.
 
JoeMercer'sWay said:
Markt85 said:
JoeMercer'sWay said:
it's true.

His grand slam wins:

Wimbledon-Philippoussis-03(says it all), Roddick-04(Limited, doesn't have the bottle either) & 05-(says it all that Roddick kept making finals), 06-Nadal(Nadal still developing but the signs were there) & 07(Nadal took him all the way, best Fed has played imho), Roddick-09(No way Roddick should have taken a supposed legend like Fed all the way like that),

Australia-Safin-04(says it all), Baghdatis-06(says it all again), Gonzalez-07(really Becker there), Murray-2010(Bottle job).

French-Soderling-09(Nadal injured, Soderling bottle job).

US-Hewitt-04(not the best by a distance), Agassi-05(fairytale, past his best), 06-Roddick(said it before), Djokovic-07(Novak developing, not the player he is now), Murray-08(bottle job apu).

Hardly a stellar cast of players there, just being decent but limited players and the top stars now when they were still young and developing, now they're growing to their peak he's getting beat regularly by at least one of them.




'' "For me, Roger is the greatest player ever to play the game. There is Roger, then Pete Sampras and Rod Laver."
Bjorn Borg -2010


'' We are witnessing history. This is the most dominant athlete on planet earth today.
Jim Courier, former world No.1 - 2007 ''


''What he’s done over the past five years has never, ever been done—and probably will never, ever happen again. Regardless if he won there or not, he goes down as the greatest ever. This just confirms it.''
Pete Sampras, winner of 14 Grand Slams - 2009


''His win today at the French Open, tying Pete Sampras’s record for major titles and the completion of a career grand slam firmly places him in a special place as the greatest player of all time. He has earned his place and he has proven he belongs. Roger is a champion for the ages. ''
Billie Jean King, winner of 39 Grand Slams - 2009


'' Roger Federer will undoubtedly become the greatest tennis player to have graced the sport if he wins the French Open. ''
Andre Agassi, the day before Federer winning 2009 French Open Final


''In my opinion he's the best player ever. When you play tennis, playing Federer is kind of a dream because you can see he does everything you would love to do on the court.''
Fabrice Santoro, played 20 of the 24 players to ever hold the No. 1 ranking


''Federer is the best player in history, no other player has ever had such quality.''
Rafael Nadal, after winning French Open 2006








JoeMercer
''He was only the best when there was no good challenger, now he has players like Djoko and Nadal it's shown him up to be what he is, just a good player who got lucky by having a weak era''
Internet warrior - 2011



picardFacePalm.jpg

says he who had to have a DNA Test to see if his bird was actually having his kid seeing as she slept around so she didn't know.

The fact he's won 16 distorts it to make him look the greatest and what do you expect other people to say? they have to keep their public image.

If this crop of players had been around 6-7 years ago at the same level when Fed was at his peak, Fed would have won quite a number less slams, and hence would not be the greatest, and would instead be looked at as a very good player in an excellent generation of tennis players, which he is. That's it.

Whats your view on Tiger Woods?
 
JoeMercer'sWay said:
Markt85 said:
JoeMercer'sWay said:
it's true.

His grand slam wins:

Wimbledon-Philippoussis-03(says it all), Roddick-04(Limited, doesn't have the bottle either) & 05-(says it all that Roddick kept making finals), 06-Nadal(Nadal still developing but the signs were there) & 07(Nadal took him all the way, best Fed has played imho), Roddick-09(No way Roddick should have taken a supposed legend like Fed all the way like that),

Australia-Safin-04(says it all), Baghdatis-06(says it all again), Gonzalez-07(really Becker there), Murray-2010(Bottle job).

French-Soderling-09(Nadal injured, Soderling bottle job).

US-Hewitt-04(not the best by a distance), Agassi-05(fairytale, past his best), 06-Roddick(said it before), Djokovic-07(Novak developing, not the player he is now), Murray-08(bottle job apu).

Hardly a stellar cast of players there, just being decent but limited players and the top stars now when they were still young and developing, now they're growing to their peak he's getting beat regularly by at least one of them.




'' "For me, Roger is the greatest player ever to play the game. There is Roger, then Pete Sampras and Rod Laver."
Bjorn Borg -2010


'' We are witnessing history. This is the most dominant athlete on planet earth today.
Jim Courier, former world No.1 - 2007 ''


''What he’s done over the past five years has never, ever been done—and probably will never, ever happen again. Regardless if he won there or not, he goes down as the greatest ever. This just confirms it.''
Pete Sampras, winner of 14 Grand Slams - 2009


''His win today at the French Open, tying Pete Sampras’s record for major titles and the completion of a career grand slam firmly places him in a special place as the greatest player of all time. He has earned his place and he has proven he belongs. Roger is a champion for the ages. ''
Billie Jean King, winner of 39 Grand Slams - 2009


'' Roger Federer will undoubtedly become the greatest tennis player to have graced the sport if he wins the French Open. ''
Andre Agassi, the day before Federer winning 2009 French Open Final


''In my opinion he's the best player ever. When you play tennis, playing Federer is kind of a dream because you can see he does everything you would love to do on the court.''
Fabrice Santoro, played 20 of the 24 players to ever hold the No. 1 ranking


''Federer is the best player in history, no other player has ever had such quality.''
Rafael Nadal, after winning French Open 2006








JoeMercer
''He was only the best when there was no good challenger, now he has players like Djoko and Nadal it's shown him up to be what he is, just a good player who got lucky by having a weak era''
Internet warrior - 2011



picardFacePalm.jpg

says he who had to have a DNA Test to see if his bird was actually having his kid seeing as she slept around so she didn't know.

The fact he's won 16 distorts it to make him look the greatest and what do you expect other people to say? they have to keep their public image.

If this crop of players had been around 6-7 years ago at the same level when Fed was at his peak, Fed would have won quite a number less slams, and hence would not be the greatest, and would instead be looked at as a very good player in an excellent generation of tennis players, which he is. That's it.

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oooooooooooooooooh ouch, am staying on this thread
 
JoeMercer'sWay said:
Markt85 said:
JoeMercer'sWay said:
it's true.

His grand slam wins:

Wimbledon-Philippoussis-03(says it all), Roddick-04(Limited, doesn't have the bottle either) & 05-(says it all that Roddick kept making finals), 06-Nadal(Nadal still developing but the signs were there) & 07(Nadal took him all the way, best Fed has played imho), Roddick-09(No way Roddick should have taken a supposed legend like Fed all the way like that),

Australia-Safin-04(says it all), Baghdatis-06(says it all again), Gonzalez-07(really Becker there), Murray-2010(Bottle job).

French-Soderling-09(Nadal injured, Soderling bottle job).

US-Hewitt-04(not the best by a distance), Agassi-05(fairytale, past his best), 06-Roddick(said it before), Djokovic-07(Novak developing, not the player he is now), Murray-08(bottle job apu).

Hardly a stellar cast of players there, just being decent but limited players and the top stars now when they were still young and developing, now they're growing to their peak he's getting beat regularly by at least one of them.




'' "For me, Roger is the greatest player ever to play the game. There is Roger, then Pete Sampras and Rod Laver."
Bjorn Borg -2010


'' We are witnessing history. This is the most dominant athlete on planet earth today.
Jim Courier, former world No.1 - 2007 ''


''What he’s done over the past five years has never, ever been done—and probably will never, ever happen again. Regardless if he won there or not, he goes down as the greatest ever. This just confirms it.''
Pete Sampras, winner of 14 Grand Slams - 2009


''His win today at the French Open, tying Pete Sampras’s record for major titles and the completion of a career grand slam firmly places him in a special place as the greatest player of all time. He has earned his place and he has proven he belongs. Roger is a champion for the ages. ''
Billie Jean King, winner of 39 Grand Slams - 2009


'' Roger Federer will undoubtedly become the greatest tennis player to have graced the sport if he wins the French Open. ''
Andre Agassi, the day before Federer winning 2009 French Open Final


''In my opinion he's the best player ever. When you play tennis, playing Federer is kind of a dream because you can see he does everything you would love to do on the court.''
Fabrice Santoro, played 20 of the 24 players to ever hold the No. 1 ranking


''Federer is the best player in history, no other player has ever had such quality.''
Rafael Nadal, after winning French Open 2006








JoeMercer
''He was only the best when there was no good challenger, now he has players like Djoko and Nadal it's shown him up to be what he is, just a good player who got lucky by having a weak era''
Internet warrior - 2011



picardFacePalm.jpg

says he who had to have a DNA Test to see if his bird was actually having his kid seeing as she slept around so she didn't know.

The fact he's won 16 distorts it to make him look the greatest and what do you expect other people to say? they have to keep their public image.

If this crop of players had been around 6-7 years ago at the same level when Fed was at his peak, Fed would have won quite a number less slams, and hence would not be the greatest, and would instead be looked at as a very good player in an excellent generation of tennis players, which he is. That's it.

Bit fucking out of order?
 
JoeMercer'sWay said:
Markt85 said:
JoeMercer'sWay said:
it's true.

His grand slam wins:

Wimbledon-Philippoussis-03(says it all), Roddick-04(Limited, doesn't have the bottle either) & 05-(says it all that Roddick kept making finals), 06-Nadal(Nadal still developing but the signs were there) & 07(Nadal took him all the way, best Fed has played imho), Roddick-09(No way Roddick should have taken a supposed legend like Fed all the way like that),

Australia-Safin-04(says it all), Baghdatis-06(says it all again), Gonzalez-07(really Becker there), Murray-2010(Bottle job).

French-Soderling-09(Nadal injured, Soderling bottle job).

US-Hewitt-04(not the best by a distance), Agassi-05(fairytale, past his best), 06-Roddick(said it before), Djokovic-07(Novak developing, not the player he is now), Murray-08(bottle job apu).

Hardly a stellar cast of players there, just being decent but limited players and the top stars now when they were still young and developing, now they're growing to their peak he's getting beat regularly by at least one of them.




'' "For me, Roger is the greatest player ever to play the game. There is Roger, then Pete Sampras and Rod Laver."
Bjorn Borg -2010


'' We are witnessing history. This is the most dominant athlete on planet earth today.
Jim Courier, former world No.1 - 2007 ''


''What he’s done over the past five years has never, ever been done—and probably will never, ever happen again. Regardless if he won there or not, he goes down as the greatest ever. This just confirms it.''
Pete Sampras, winner of 14 Grand Slams - 2009


''His win today at the French Open, tying Pete Sampras’s record for major titles and the completion of a career grand slam firmly places him in a special place as the greatest player of all time. He has earned his place and he has proven he belongs. Roger is a champion for the ages. ''
Billie Jean King, winner of 39 Grand Slams - 2009


'' Roger Federer will undoubtedly become the greatest tennis player to have graced the sport if he wins the French Open. ''
Andre Agassi, the day before Federer winning 2009 French Open Final


''In my opinion he's the best player ever. When you play tennis, playing Federer is kind of a dream because you can see he does everything you would love to do on the court.''
Fabrice Santoro, played 20 of the 24 players to ever hold the No. 1 ranking


''Federer is the best player in history, no other player has ever had such quality.''
Rafael Nadal, after winning French Open 2006








JoeMercer
''He was only the best when there was no good challenger, now he has players like Djoko and Nadal it's shown him up to be what he is, just a good player who got lucky by having a weak era''
Internet warrior - 2011



picardFacePalm.jpg

says he who had to have a DNA Test to see if his bird was actually having his kid seeing as she slept around so she didn't know.

The fact he's won 16 distorts it to make him look the greatest and what do you expect other people to say? they have to keep their public image.

If this crop of players had been around 6-7 years ago at the same level when Fed was at his peak, Fed would have won quite a number less slams, and hence would not be the greatest, and would instead be looked at as a very good player in an excellent generation of tennis players, which he is. That's it.

No real need for that was there?
 
JoeMercer'sWay said:
Markt85 said:
JoeMercer'sWay said:
it's true.

His grand slam wins:

Wimbledon-Philippoussis-03(says it all), Roddick-04(Limited, doesn't have the bottle either) & 05-(says it all that Roddick kept making finals), 06-Nadal(Nadal still developing but the signs were there) & 07(Nadal took him all the way, best Fed has played imho), Roddick-09(No way Roddick should have taken a supposed legend like Fed all the way like that),

Australia-Safin-04(says it all), Baghdatis-06(says it all again), Gonzalez-07(really Becker there), Murray-2010(Bottle job).

French-Soderling-09(Nadal injured, Soderling bottle job).

US-Hewitt-04(not the best by a distance), Agassi-05(fairytale, past his best), 06-Roddick(said it before), Djokovic-07(Novak developing, not the player he is now), Murray-08(bottle job apu).

Hardly a stellar cast of players there, just being decent but limited players and the top stars now when they were still young and developing, now they're growing to their peak he's getting beat regularly by at least one of them.




'' "For me, Roger is the greatest player ever to play the game. There is Roger, then Pete Sampras and Rod Laver."
Bjorn Borg -2010


'' We are witnessing history. This is the most dominant athlete on planet earth today.
Jim Courier, former world No.1 - 2007 ''


''What he’s done over the past five years has never, ever been done—and probably will never, ever happen again. Regardless if he won there or not, he goes down as the greatest ever. This just confirms it.''
Pete Sampras, winner of 14 Grand Slams - 2009


''His win today at the French Open, tying Pete Sampras’s record for major titles and the completion of a career grand slam firmly places him in a special place as the greatest player of all time. He has earned his place and he has proven he belongs. Roger is a champion for the ages. ''
Billie Jean King, winner of 39 Grand Slams - 2009


'' Roger Federer will undoubtedly become the greatest tennis player to have graced the sport if he wins the French Open. ''
Andre Agassi, the day before Federer winning 2009 French Open Final


''In my opinion he's the best player ever. When you play tennis, playing Federer is kind of a dream because you can see he does everything you would love to do on the court.''
Fabrice Santoro, played 20 of the 24 players to ever hold the No. 1 ranking


''Federer is the best player in history, no other player has ever had such quality.''
Rafael Nadal, after winning French Open 2006








JoeMercer
''He was only the best when there was no good challenger, now he has players like Djoko and Nadal it's shown him up to be what he is, just a good player who got lucky by having a weak era''
Internet warrior - 2011



picardFacePalm.jpg

says he who had to have a DNA Test to see if his bird was actually having his kid seeing as she slept around so she didn't know.

The fact he's won 16 distorts it to make him look the greatest and what do you expect other people to say? they have to keep their public image.

If this crop of players had been around 6-7 years ago at the same level when Fed was at his peak, Fed would have won quite a number less slams, and hence would not be the greatest, and would instead be looked at as a very good player in an excellent generation of tennis players, which he is. That's it.

That's fucking bang out of order. The worst part is Mark didn't even put an opinion in the post it was all quotes. You are a sad little man JMW, who can't handle getting found out so he throws personal abuse.
 
JoeMercer'sWay said:
Markt85 said:
JoeMercer'sWay said:
it's true.

His grand slam wins:

Wimbledon-Philippoussis-03(says it all), Roddick-04(Limited, doesn't have the bottle either) & 05-(says it all that Roddick kept making finals), 06-Nadal(Nadal still developing but the signs were there) & 07(Nadal took him all the way, best Fed has played imho), Roddick-09(No way Roddick should have taken a supposed legend like Fed all the way like that),

Australia-Safin-04(says it all), Baghdatis-06(says it all again), Gonzalez-07(really Becker there), Murray-2010(Bottle job).

French-Soderling-09(Nadal injured, Soderling bottle job).

US-Hewitt-04(not the best by a distance), Agassi-05(fairytale, past his best), 06-Roddick(said it before), Djokovic-07(Novak developing, not the player he is now), Murray-08(bottle job apu).

Hardly a stellar cast of players there, just being decent but limited players and the top stars now when they were still young and developing, now they're growing to their peak he's getting beat regularly by at least one of them.




'' "For me, Roger is the greatest player ever to play the game. There is Roger, then Pete Sampras and Rod Laver."
Bjorn Borg -2010


'' We are witnessing history. This is the most dominant athlete on planet earth today.
Jim Courier, former world No.1 - 2007 ''


''What he’s done over the past five years has never, ever been done—and probably will never, ever happen again. Regardless if he won there or not, he goes down as the greatest ever. This just confirms it.''
Pete Sampras, winner of 14 Grand Slams - 2009


''His win today at the French Open, tying Pete Sampras’s record for major titles and the completion of a career grand slam firmly places him in a special place as the greatest player of all time. He has earned his place and he has proven he belongs. Roger is a champion for the ages. ''
Billie Jean King, winner of 39 Grand Slams - 2009


'' Roger Federer will undoubtedly become the greatest tennis player to have graced the sport if he wins the French Open. ''
Andre Agassi, the day before Federer winning 2009 French Open Final


''In my opinion he's the best player ever. When you play tennis, playing Federer is kind of a dream because you can see he does everything you would love to do on the court.''
Fabrice Santoro, played 20 of the 24 players to ever hold the No. 1 ranking


''Federer is the best player in history, no other player has ever had such quality.''
Rafael Nadal, after winning French Open 2006








JoeMercer
''He was only the best when there was no good challenger, now he has players like Djoko and Nadal it's shown him up to be what he is, just a good player who got lucky by having a weak era''
Internet warrior - 2011



picardFacePalm.jpg

says he who had to have a DNA Test to see if his bird was actually having his kid seeing as she slept around so she didn't know.

The fact he's won 16 distorts it to make him look the greatest and what do you expect other people to say? they have to keep their public image.

If this crop of players had been around 6-7 years ago at the same level when Fed was at his peak, Fed would have won quite a number less slams, and hence would not be the greatest, and would instead be looked at as a very good player in an excellent generation of tennis players, which he is. That's it.


Can't really see the relevance of that statement.
 

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