Ferguson written letter to fans

[squirtyflower]

i think he knows exactly who the cunts are

 

[bluwes]

Unbelievable.....last week many on here were slagging Utd fans off for a wholly inappropriate chant at the Wigan game, in the wake of the Hillsborough report being released. Now several are slagging off Ferguson & the club for taking steps to try and ensure that Liverpool's first home fixture since that report isn't marred by the same chanting (or even worse).

Perhaps he should have just ignored last weeks chants (which came despite him making a pre match plea for fans not to sing about Liverpool) and said nothing. Presumably some on here would then call him a twat for doing nothing to try and stop it!!

I can't see how anything that may help Sunday's match pass off in a respectful atmosphere can be criticised, no matter how much you detest Utd and Ferguson.

As for the guy who saw a 96 was not enough banner being passed around Old Trafford, you need to lay off the hallucinogenic drugs now - think you've overdone 'em pal.....

Nearly 400 posts and he hasn't been spotted and banned

 

[JM Mcr]

and utd fans didn`t sing city going down like a russian submarine towards the end of season 2000/2001 did they not????

go on,shoo shoo with your double standards..

If that's aimed at me, what double standards? This is a thread about a letter asking fans to refrain from all such chants...for some reason people find a need to turn it into a Utd/City thing. It isn't, and shouldn't be.

To answer the question, yes Utd fans (myself included) did sing that. The chant was about City going down, not about the Kursk tragedy but using a Russian submarine as an analogy was wrong. I'm sorry we sung it, I'm particularly sorry that I joined in singing it. Once it was realised that it was actually an offensive chant the words were changed to yellow submarine, with hindsight that should have been the case from the start.

-- Sat Sep 22, 2012 10:24 pm --

From a couple of seasons ago:

Mike Ashley’s sports shop chain has issued a big apology after one of its employees allowed a Manchester United fan to have customised printing based on Hillsborough victims on the back of football top. The fan Colm Jackson paid £55 for a shirt had the slogan ‘YSB 96 NOT ENOUGH’ ( which is a total disgrace) printed at the Sports Direct in the Arndale Centre in Manchester

Think we all know there are some sick twats like this out there. That's exactly why Utd and Ferguson felt the need for the letter, which so many of you seem to have taken exception to.

Try and think about it like this, mate: Ferguson is the most poisonous **** in English football. Whatever he says, whatever he does, it's not because he's motivated to do 'the decent thing', it's because he sees some kind of benefit in it for himself. That's why the animosity on this thread, and rightly so.

I agree he is an odious prick at times mate but I think you may just be demonising him too much. You say whatever he does is because he sees some benefit for him but how did he benefit from writing to sympathise with Brendan Rodgers after he was sacked by Reading (the two didn't even know each other), or when (along with that other tosser Martin Edwards) he paid a private visit to Liverpool in the aftermath of Hillsborough to pay his respects. Or what about the huge amount of charity work he does? I'm sure there are many other things he does that we don't hear about, that don't benefit him at all.

In short, yes the guy is a total knob at times (but still a genius of a football manager) but everyone has some redeeming qualities. Maybe you should just take this letter at face value and hope it has the desired effect.<br /><br />-- Sat Sep 22, 2012 11:33 pm --<br /><br />

Unbelievable.....last week many on here were slagging Utd fans off for a wholly inappropriate chant at the Wigan game, in the wake of the Hillsborough report being released. Now several are slagging off Ferguson & the club for taking steps to try and ensure that Liverpool's first home fixture since that report isn't marred by the same chanting (or even worse).

Perhaps he should have just ignored last weeks chants (which came despite him making a pre match plea for fans not to sing about Liverpool) and said nothing. Presumably some on here would then call him a twat for doing nothing to try and stop it!!

I can't see how anything that may help Sunday's match pass off in a respectful atmosphere can be criticised, no matter how much you detest Utd and Ferguson.

As for the guy who saw a 96 was not enough banner being passed around Old Trafford, you need to lay off the hallucinogenic drugs now - think you've overdone 'em pal.....

Nearly 400 posts and he hasn't been spotted and banned

?

 

[bluemanc]

They would do ANYTHING to promote themselves,they even left Busby off that Mosaic so they could fit AIG on it.
Expect a programme about Munich on the TV.

 

[squirtyflower]

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Maybe you should just take this letter at face value

others have said what they think of him far more eloquently than any apologist

you only have to listen to Paddy Barclay, his official biographer, about how odious he finds him

 

[bluwes]

If that's aimed at me, what double standards? This is a thread about a letter asking fans to refrain from all such chants...for some reason people find a need to turn it into a Utd/City thing. It isn't, and shouldn't be.

To answer the question, yes Utd fans (myself included) did sing that. The chant was about City going down, not about the Kursk tragedy but using a Russian submarine as an analogy was wrong. I'm sorry we sung it, I'm particularly sorry that I joined in singing it. Once it was realised that it was actually an offensive chant the words were changed to yellow submarine, with hindsight that should have been the case from the start.

-- Sat Sep 22, 2012 10:24 pm --


Think we all know there are some sick twats like this out there. That's exactly why Utd and Ferguson felt the need for the letter, which so many of you seem to have taken exception to.

Try and think about it like this, mate: Ferguson is the most poisonous **** in English football. Whatever he says, whatever he does, it's not because he's motivated to do 'the decent thing', it's because he sees some kind of benefit in it for himself. That's why the animosity on this thread, and rightly so.

I agree he is an odious prick at times mate but I think you may just be demonising him too much. You say whatever he does is because he sees some benefit for him but how did he benefit from writing to sympathise with Brendan Rodgers after he was sacked by Reading (the two didn't even know each other), or when (along with that other tosser Martin Edwards) he paid a private visit to Liverpool in the aftermath of Hillsborough to pay his respects. Or what about the huge amount of charity work he does? I'm sure there are many other things he does that we don't hear about, that don't benefit him at all.

In short, yes the guy is a total knob at times (but still a genius of a football manager) but everyone has some redeeming qualities. Maybe you should just take this letter at face value and hope it has the desired effect.

-- Sat Sep 22, 2012 11:33 pm --

Unbelievable.....last week many on here were slagging Utd fans off for a wholly inappropriate chant at the Wigan game, in the wake of the Hillsborough report being released. Now several are slagging off Ferguson & the club for taking steps to try and ensure that Liverpool's first home fixture since that report isn't marred by the same chanting (or even worse).

Perhaps he should have just ignored last weeks chants (which came despite him making a pre match plea for fans not to sing about Liverpool) and said nothing. Presumably some on here would then call him a twat for doing nothing to try and stop it!!

I can't see how anything that may help Sunday's match pass off in a respectful atmosphere can be criticised, no matter how much you detest Utd and Ferguson.

As for the guy who saw a 96 was not enough banner being passed around Old Trafford, you need to lay off the hallucinogenic drugs now - think you've overdone 'em pal.....

Nearly 400 posts and he hasn't been spotted and banned

?

I read the thread backwards , why don't you just f**k off back to Rag Cafe

 

[squirtyflower]

Try and think about it like this, mate: Ferguson is the most poisonous **** in English football. Whatever he says, whatever he does, it's not because he's motivated to do 'the decent thing', it's because he sees some kind of benefit in it for himself. That's why the animosity on this thread, and rightly so.

I agree he is an odious prick at times mate but I think you may just be demonising him too much. You say whatever he does is because he sees some benefit for him but how did he benefit from writing to sympathise with Brendan Rodgers after he was sacked by Reading (the two didn't even know each other), or when (along with that other tosser Martin Edwards) he paid a private visit to Liverpool in the aftermath of Hillsborough to pay his respects. Or what about the huge amount of charity work he does? I'm sure there are many other things he does that we don't hear about, that don't benefit him at all.

In short, yes the guy is a total knob at times (but still a genius of a football manager) but everyone has some redeeming qualities. Maybe you should just take this letter at face value and hope it has the desired effect.

-- Sat Sep 22, 2012 11:33 pm --

Nearly 400 posts and he hasn't been spotted and banned

?

I read the thread backwards , why don't you just f**k off back to Rag Cafe

he's a welcome guest, you mustn't be like that

 

[JM Mcr]

I agree he is an odious prick at times mate but I think you may just be demonising him too much. You say whatever he does is because he sees some benefit for him but how did he benefit from writing to sympathise with Brendan Rodgers after he was sacked by Reading (the two didn't even know each other), or when (along with that other tosser Martin Edwards) he paid a private visit to Liverpool in the aftermath of Hillsborough to pay his respects. Or what about the huge amount of charity work he does? I'm sure there are many other things he does that we don't hear about, that don't benefit him at all.

In short, yes the guy is a total knob at times (but still a genius of a football manager) but everyone has some redeeming qualities. Maybe you should just take this letter at face value and hope it has the desired effect.

-- Sat Sep 22, 2012 11:33 pm --


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I read the thread backwards , why don't you just f**k off back to Rag Cafe

he's a welcome guest, you mustn't be like that

lol

 

[CheethamHillBlue]

Having been a Utd fan from the 70s onwards I'm not sure we had any moral high ground to lose to be honest.

Knife thrower?

With regards to your 1st point no, I don't recall any fans making gasping/breathless noises back then.

Fair enough. I'm sure i saw it in the 90's.

On your second point, the "always the victims" chant has been sung since Suarez received his ban but refused to accept any responsibility for his actions. Noone, press and Liverpool fans included, ever commented on it or decried it for mocking Hillsborough until last weekend when, given the context, it was rightly condemned as likely to cause offence.

I don't think the press or anyone else needed to. United fans CLEARLY included Hillsborough along with Heysel, Shields et al. They ONLY said they didn't after the Liverpool fans were cleared. You've called them murderers for years.

Of course, some fans singing it may always have had the Hillsborough tragedy in mind when they did but only they would know if that was the case.

As a gambling man, Fred Done would have paid out on this one already imo.

Btw you really need to stop calling Utd fans wonderful, people may think you're a rag ;-)

I'll use the inverted comments next time to avoid confusion.

 

[JM Mcr]

Try and think about it like this, mate: Ferguson is the most poisonous **** in English football. Whatever he says, whatever he does, it's not because he's motivated to do 'the decent thing', it's because he sees some kind of benefit in it for himself. That's why the animosity on this thread, and rightly so.

I agree he is an odious prick at times mate but I think you may just be demonising him too much. You say whatever he does is because he sees some benefit for him but how did he benefit from writing to sympathise with Brendan Rodgers after he was sacked by Reading (the two didn't even know each other), or when (along with that other tosser Martin Edwards) he paid a private visit to Liverpool in the aftermath of Hillsborough to pay his respects. Or what about the huge amount of charity work he does? I'm sure there are many other things he does that we don't hear about, that don't benefit him at all.

In short, yes the guy is a total knob at times (but still a genius of a football manager) but everyone has some redeeming qualities. Maybe you should just take this letter at face value and hope it has the desired effect.

-- Sat Sep 22, 2012 11:33 pm --

Nearly 400 posts and he hasn't been spotted and banned

?

I read the thread backwards , why don't you just f**k off back to Rag Cafe

Why, do you feel threatened by my presence?